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Alkindus;3111093 said:
Well the fact of the matter is that babylon was never called 'babylon' back in the day and that we cannot even pin point when abraham actually lived. Just like we don't know when Moses actually lived, who was more a man of the sword if anything btw if you read the scripture. Moses ordered the killing of women and children.

And the scrolls were written in ancient times, in ancient langueges, modern day hebrew is nothing like the hebrew of 3000 years ago, stop foolin yourself.

We do have historical proof of dozens of tribes/cultures living in the north african/middle eastern region that worshipped several gods/deities/religions etc that obviously influenced all of the abrahamic faiths and made them what they are now. ignoring that correlation just seems foolish.

Sinai was a place full of tribes, full of opium(drugs), the place where moses got his tablets (IF he existed, again we dont know which time period and there is no historical proof of an exodus whatsover) was indeed a place where people used natural drugs and worshipped the moon god.

It seems to me that moses made joshua his general, build up a generation of warriors in 40 years, created his own law and order/religion and slaughtered all surrounding tribes, even the tribes he had good relations with. at one point it is written that he actually orders the killing of women and children eventhough his military didnt want to at first.

So the whole moses story is more about creating an empire, conquering land, instead of gaining spiritual enlightment and over-all peace. It's war stories. I never get how people ignore that part of the old testament.

And by the way If you gone mention the fact that Moses was a man of the sword, then please mention that a) the first time he murked a man it was to help his brother and b.) him like everybody else who had bloody hands recieved relative results. In the end, Moses couldn't get to where he was leading all those people to because of his rage. And thats a point that can't be glossed over. Quit cherry-picking at a book you don't like or study to support your anti-semitism. be a man and stand on what you believe in without bullshit excuses.

Atah kelev oo ben zonah oo ben elefim. Atah lo yodea shoom kloom aval atah medaber kemo ha ze!
 
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judahxulu;3111212 said:
Yawn....for real? More speculation?

Modern day Hebrew is the same if you understand what the ideograms actually symbolize and make a few minor grammatical and pronunciation adjustments.

You can say there is a correlation all day. the only correlation is that the very essence of what it means to be a Hebrew ("one who has traversed/crossed over") is to reject those very real influences that were around them way back when and around us now.

I mean you silly niggas act like because surrounding tribes or other groups of people were doing one thing or the other that it is unimaginable that a group could do something different.

But if what you say is true, what does that meamn? it means your sht is ineffective cause it got conquered by some fake shit. Till this day. and you cant do shit about it but post on the internet.

Thats not the case but i'm saying....either way we winning. What drug using, moon worshiping tribes are running shit now? whoever you are and where ever they come from are they running shit now? Jews run shit now and they stole our science and our identity. If the source information they stole is false, that makes you and whoever your people are weaklings. even if you profess rebellion with your mouth or keyboard you're still insignificant and your people/philosophy has no influence on earth. At all. for real for real.

Prove me wrong you vile uncircumcised heathen.

And BTW, Im tired of you fags mentioning genocide like it cant be properly applied in the correct situations. say there is a nation of people where homosexuality, child sacrifice and molestation, human rights violations, sex slavery etcetera were socially accepted norms. Imagine if they are affluent and influence all who are around them to do the same. They would basically destroy all people they come in contact with vis-a-vis degenerative social norms. If they will not turn from their ways, which they wouldn't if they are affluent as I said before, THEY DESERVE TO DIE. you niggas swear you knowledgeable and come acting like it was Israel who were the savages but you fail to report the truth that the nations Israel went up against were doing all the aforementioned stuff- AS A NATIONAL STANDARD. They DESERVED TO DIE- and if there really was an afterlife hell they should burn in it.

Yeah I said it.

This is an African M.O. Thieves, adulterers and fags get murked in Africa.

Whoever you descended from more than likely went to war with other tribes and nations. and raped they women too. I'm not condoning rape- but to keep it real there's a difference between murdering and killing- and there's a time to kill. if your ancestors didn't do it you wouldn't be here today typing on this keyboard. That shit aint where humanity should be at today but miss me with that thinly veiled anti-Semitic bullshit you building up to because you've typed the same ol' tired bullshit over and over again.

If we who walk after Abraham are so bad and unrighteous then do something about it, pussy. Your god should be on your side if you're right shouldn't he? or science or whatever the fuck you believe in...

Lol vile uncircumcised heathen? ( I actually am circumcised but who cares anyway), no need to get mad son. I know it's annoying that you cannot give me any historical dates or archelogical proof of events/people in the tenach/bible, especially if you believe in them with such a passion.

but No modern day hebrew is not the same because 3000/2000 years ago there were many different dialects with just as many different cultures/traditions, you had less people but more family based tribes which spoke langueges and writings that do not exist anymore today and evloved in the modern day aramic/hebrew/arabic and whatnot. there is no need to ignore that. In reality you are being mad selective with what the ideograms actually symbolize because yunus from 3000 years ago isn't here now to exactly explain to you what is meant. You are reading the words of the dead, never forget that.

What it means to be a hebrew? do you know what it means to be a (insert random name for a people you never heard about here, spiritual/enlightened terms like dao also accepted) Why don't you call yourself one who has crossed over?

No one is saying that one group cannot do something different, point is that there obviously are correlations between the various tribes and that the tribe of israelites/moses is one that ONLY EXISTED IN THEORY, cause there is no historical or archelogical proof of them even existing.

and regarding that it got conquered by some fake shit, bro, why don't you call yourself muslim than? isn't most of the ancient world you adore so much islamic now? or are you one of those extremist 'hebrews' that believes in a 'greater israel' zionist david ben gurion style and thinks it's only a matter of time before the sinai, syria, lebanon and jordan + the remains of palestine are in Israels hands?

The only people I represent is my fam, jews aint 'runnin everything' in my fam(nore do 'they' run the world) don't delude yourself with this biblical babble and please dont feel offended cause I have another opinion than you. if you believe that jews run the word than yeah they do, your world that is.

and come on, it is well known and written down in the old testament that Moses(yes Moses) ordered the slaughter of the tribe he was befriend with(cant remember the name of the tribe lol) they were not doing anything sodom and gommorrah style, when joshua didnt want to kill the tribes children and women he went back to moses with them, this is what made moses furious and he ordered to kill them anyway. don't just ignore that part and pretend that they were all a bunch of fags and deserved to die, they were the allies of the tribe of moses for years. Moses is known to be a man of god and the sword.

I am a man of peace, I dont give a damn about your god or who you follow, so I already conquered them by not acknowledging them. Thats how jesus murked zues and how arabs murked the most of the hebrews.
 
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(this dude alkindus)^ You gave a damn enough to jump in this thread now didn't you? And Arabs are Hebrews. Not the modern day ones...they're mixed mongrels. i'm talking about the children of Ishmael. Those are the original Arabs whose comon ancestor with Israelites are Abraham, making them both Hebrews.

And for the record, there is historical and archaeological evidence, but even if it wasn't I don't care. its not about believing in people or places or other physical shit. Its about the point of it all and the FACT that the book has called shit going on right now thousands of years ahead of time.

But for starters as far as empirical evidence why dont you look up the Ebla dig of I think '78 or '79.
 
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judahxulu;3111471 said:
(this dude alkindus)^ You gave a damn enough to jump in this thread now didn't you? And Arabs are Hebrews. Not the modern day ones...they're mixed mongrels. i'm talking about the children of Ishmael. Those are the original Arabs whose comon ancestor with Israelites are Abraham, making them both Hebrews.

And for the record, there is historical and archaeological evidence, but even if it wasn't I don't care. its not about believing in people or places or other physical shit. Its about the point of it all and the FACT that the book has called shit going on right now thousands of years ahead of time.

But for starters as far as empirical evidence why dont you look up the Ebla dig of I think '78 or '79.

lol oke, there is a difference between ancient temples and they actually being what was written down in the tora, thats just suggestive thinking.

and please, post some of this 'shit' thats going down right now that the book has called thousands of years ahead of its time? If you are going to post vague scriptures(that are written in generalities and could reflect to any time period of the last couple thousand years) and then labeling america or russia or whatever the hell as synomous for what is written please don't even bother.
 
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I Self Lord & Master;3111242 said:
this is a very good thread

damn lol

gave me a few reference points to look into as well

no doubt

judahxulu;3110814 said:
Ok so now that I'm home at a computer again, let me address you and be done with this subject.

BTW, Enzu is the actual name of the deity you are referring to- Sin is a Semitic "nickname" meaning "thorn". That certainly does not reek of reverence for your moon god pal, now does it?

There were no early Israelites in Mesopotamia genius.You have your timeline mixed up. And "ai" does not mean mountain. "HAR" is mountain in Hebrew. As far as SINAI we have סִינַי

Transliteration

Ciynay

Pronunciation

sē·nah'·ē (Key)

Sinai = "thorny"

Maybe you don't realize how disrespectful you came off, but you did.

But my oh my, you know when you point the finger at percieved flaws....four come right back at you. My wife can attest to the fact that Im extra, extra heterosexual but look what your gods are up to.

I knew you were going to drop that faggot Wikipedia shit even though it was irrelevant and you even added pics; you have been itching to get that one out for a while huh? On some real shit…your posts display the prime example of the dangers of following ancient scriptures. You actually think that atrocities occur because of “sins” like homosexuality and adultery, but fail to realize that at the core, the cause is ancient mentalities and religions. You think that it is an African M.O., but I assure you that it is indeed European, propagated against them as a control mechanism. I’m finished arguing ideas with you, but I will challenge your science based on research in an attempt to keep knowledge flowing.

The above mentioned Enzu: http://books.google.com/books?id=aq...&ved=0CBsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=enzu god&f=false also search sin

Mount Sinai: http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=817&letter=S&search=horeb
 
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bambu;3111564 said:
no doubt

I knew you were going to drop that faggot Wikipedia shit even though it was irrelevant and you even added pics; you have been itching to get that one out for a while huh? On some real shit…your posts display the prime example of the dangers of following ancient scriptures. You actually think that atrocities occur because of “sins” like homosexuality and adultery, but fail to realize that at the core, the cause is ancient mentalities and religions. You think that it is an African M.O., but I assure you that it is indeed European, propagated against them as a control mechanism. I’m finished arguing ideas with you, but I will challenge your science based on research in an attempt to keep knowledge flowing.

The above mentioned Enzu: http://books.google.com/books?id=aq...&ved=0CBsQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=enzu god&f=false also search sin
Mount Sinai: http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/view.jsp?artid=817&letter=S&search=horeb

Lol@ the dangers of following ancient scriptures. You came bigging up ancient scriptures and putting down others.Now they're all bad? Youre confused. You the worst kind of idiotic afrocentrist- one who (obviously) in your post really knows nothing about Africa and never been. So rejection of and understanding of the dangers of sins like homosexuality and adultery are a European control mechanism? Nigga please.Our problems are much older than the European genetic mutation. As far as religions go , i don't have one. As far as ancient mentalities, I dont know what the fuck youre talking about. Thats a pretty broad term. All I know is ancient people could sustain a society much longer than modern people with only a fraction of the problems. and there are some negative ancient thought patterns, on the other hand, that have led to societies crumbling in a similar fashion to western civilization today- namely socially accepted sin under the guise of progressive thought. You are slick with your words but not slick enough...you talked about ancient mentalities and religions as being causal as opposed to sins such as homosexuality and adultery- yet you fail to realize that sin originates from mentalities and there are ancient religions built off of the propagation of sin.

As far as your references go, theyre weak. If Suen is the proper pronunciation then once again your whole O.P. is blown out the water.

As far as the FACT that the scriptures already say there were a portion of Israelites who followed after the cults of surrounding nations, youre not saying anything new. The specific connections you are making are still patnetly false and strangely unproven. There were pockets of people not doing what they were supposed to but modern Hebraic spirituality was not born from pagan tradition. You fail to see the connection between what i mentioned earlier about the advancements made for our people by those of Abrahamic backgrounds to the fact that 99 % of of the sources you and even other published so-called Afrocentric scholars USE TO DISCREDIT THE ABRAHAMIC TRADITIONS ARE from EUROPEANS. Meanwhile, they wax fat off of the "ancient mentalities" you speak against (i.e. the imposter jews, the imposter Arabs, the Masonic/Theosophist manipulation of Khemtic sorcery).Christianity, the cheap imitation of hebraic culture in religion format, was used to neutralize understanding for a while, now its knowledge overload. Every Tom, Joe and Larry who can click a mouse or fork over 4.99$ for a book thinks he's a guru.And we accept every identity but our own, we castigate one another for not being accepting of the basic TANGIBLE things that have destroyed our community, matter of fact your posts are a prime example of how through tricknology we would value abstract ramblings over concrete ideals.

Thats why atrocities happen... to US disproportionately. At first, it was most of us stuck looking to the sky for answers while all our shit got taken on earth. Now you niggas are stuck in party mode or stuck thinking in circles supposing yourselves intelligent....while all your shit is still being taken....but now youre dying much quicker and youre not reproducing because of sterility, AIDS, black on black violence. But a nigga like you somehow thinks that these issues are not relative to issues such as homosexuality and adultery???LOL. You need to research common sense, bruh.
 
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Alkindus;3111497 said:
lol oke, there is a difference between ancient temples and they actually being what was written down in the tora, thats just suggestive thinking.

and please, post some of this 'shit' thats going down right now that the book has called thousands of years ahead of its time? If you are going to post vague scriptures(that are written in generalities and could reflect to any time period of the last couple thousand years) and then labeling america or russia or whatever the hell as synomous for what is written please don't even bother.

So you gone demand evidence but dictate the terms of delivery?/ GTFOH
 
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judahxulu;3106329 said:
besides.why u talking shit about what u dont understand, u should marinate on the fact that the people who led our people the furthest in the us (including malcolm x...irony) come from ABRAHAMIC TRADITION. from nat turner to marcus garvey to ben ammi to farrakhan. u egyptology niggas are a lot of talk but yall aint gone do nothing.

SMH, Cheikh Anta Diop, John Henrik Clarke, Dr Ben ain't done nothing, Judah your my brother but you always try to shit on fellow Afrikans, forgetting that the brothers i've named have done as much to advance Afrikan intellect as any Hebrew you could come up with, Marcus Garvey was a Christian, Malcolm X and Farrakhan were Muslim, none of them were Hebrews.
 
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garv;3112070 said:
SMH, Cheik Anti Diop, John Henrik Clarke, Dr Ben ain't done nothing?

I don't think anybody said that. We all learn from these Brothers. Dr. Ben grew up in the Hebrew tradition. JHC was influenced heavily by Malcolm(he lovingly muses that Malcolm use to call him "my swine eating brother"), Cheik Anti Diop did great work. I look at them as they are a part of us.

But if we be honest, most of the steam comes from brothers who subscribe to African centered thought. We big up them dudes all the time. But somehow there seems to be this underlying passive aggressive animosity against those who are influenced by Abrahamic(don't like this word, but I will use it) tradition. Dudes like Seti, JHK, and others like to talk shit, throw stones and hide they hand. And it manifest in the dudes that follow them. We aren't the enemy, god. I mean seriously, if we can see the good that each other do, what is the need for all that? Go bang on the beast.

And then some act incredulous when we bang back on that ass and highlight deficiencies we see. Like we supposed to take that bullshit. Nah son. We don't turn the other cheek. There are a segment of the Abrahamic crew that have been able to meld African Centered Consciousness with spiritual science with good results, we are not ignorant worshippers or religious ritualistic clones, or European or Arab flunkies. We have a new perspective on those traditions that we bring to the modern context.
 
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garv;3112070 said:
SMH, Cheikh Anta Diop, John Henrik Clarke, Dr Ben ain't done nothing, Judah your my brother but you always try to shit on fellow Afrikans, forgetting that the brothers i've named have done as much to advance Afrikan intellect as any Hebrew you could come up with, Marcus Garvey was a Christian, Malcolm X and Farrakhan were Muslim, none of them were Hebrews.

i didin't say they were Hebrews. Christianity and Islam, however, do stem from the Abrahamic tradition I'm not saying Hebrew>>>everything. I wouldn't have even started tracing my lineage if it wasnt for one of Dr. ben-Yochannons books. I study all things. What happened here is an example of a neophyte trying to boost up what he's inclined to believe by putting down other people's spiritual expression. You know I don't go around here starting shit, and I'll give my life for my people...but I had to check the nigga. If you can't explain and stand on your own shit without scrutinizing and passive-aggressively putting down someone elses shit then its only fair that standard of critique go both ways.

as far as the scholars you mentioned, I cant take anything away from their scholastic contributions- but the context of my post was about DOING something. Study can prepare you to do something and will strengthen you in the process, but it is not the DOING in and of itself. Pound for pound when it comes to DOING...you gotsta give it up. I mean Nat Turner was trying to get to Jerusalem...granted he had his geography twisted. Harriet Tubman was not called the Ramses of her people...she was called the Moses of her people. MLK seen our people in the Promised Land and he wasn't talking about no afterlife heaven bullshit he was talking about our land- northeastern Africa. J.Edgar Hoover was not trying to 'prevent the rise of a black pharoah" with COINTELPRO. he was trying to prevent the rise of a BLACK MESSIAH....messiah being a distinctly Hebrew concept. Once again, i'm not on that Hebrew>>>everybody and everything tip, but when niggas come with this old " yall stole this or that' or "y'all following whites" shit I gotta set 'em straight. Look up the megiddo report and see who they scared of.....Muslims and Hebrew Israelites
 
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And Step;3112145 said:
I don't think anybody said that. We all learn from these Brothers. Dr. Ben grew up in the Hebrew tradition. JHC was influenced heavily by Malcolm(he lovingly muses that Malcolm use to call him "my swine eating brother"), Cheik Anti Diop did great work. I look at them as they are a part of us.

But if we be honest, most of the steam comes from brothers who subscribe to African centered thought. We big up them dudes all the time. But somehow there seems to be this underlying passive aggressive animosity against those who are influenced by Abrahamic(don't like this word, but I will use it) tradition. Dudes like Seti, JHK, and others like to talk shit, throw stones and hide they hand. And it manifest in the dudes that follow them. We aren't the enemy, god. I mean seriously, if we can see the good that each other do, what is the need for all that? Go bang on the beast.

And then some act incredulous when we bang back on that ass and highlight deficiencies we see. Like we supposed to take that bullshit. Nah son. We don't turn the other cheek. There are a segment of the Abrahamic crew that have been able to meld African Centered Consciousness with spiritual science with good results, we are not ignorant worshippers or religious ritualistic clones, or European or Arab flunkies. We have a new perspective on those traditions that we bring to the modern context.

(in Borat voice) HIGH FIVE!!!
 
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And Step;3112145 said:
I don't think anybody said that. We all learn from these Brothers. Dr. Ben grew up in the Hebrew tradition. JHC was influenced heavily by Malcolm(he lovingly muses that Malcolm use to call him "my swine eating brother"), Cheik Anti Diop did great work. I look at them as they are a part of us.

But if we be honest, most of the steam comes from brothers who subscribe to African centered thought. We big up them dudes all the time. But somehow there seems to be this underlying passive aggressive animosity against those who are influenced by Abrahamic(don't like this word, but I will use it) tradition. Dudes like Seti, JHK, and others like to talk shit, throw stones and hide they hand. And it manifest in the dudes that follow them. We aren't the enemy, god. I mean seriously, if we can see the good that each other do, what is the need for all that? Go bang on the beast.

And then some act incredulous when we bang back on that ass and highlight deficiencies we see. Like we supposed to take that bullshit. Nah son. We don't turn the other cheek. There are a segment of the Abrahamic crew that have been able to meld African Centered Consciousness with spiritual science with good results, we are not ignorant worshippers or religious ritualistic clones, or European or Arab flunkies. We have a new perspective on those traditions that we bring to the modern context.

Nah i don't agree in doesn't all come from brothers who subscribe to African centered thought, it flows both ways, Seti is very confrontational in his approach but the likes of Ali and Wesley Muhammad are no better, they all criticize each others beliefs.
 
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garv;3112335 said:
Nah i don't agree in doesn't all come from brothers who subscribe to African centered thought, it flows both ways, Seti is very confrontational in his approach but the likes of Ali and Wesley Muhammad are no better, they all criticize each others beliefs.

Garv, c'mon. Seti started it with bringing all the rah rah and belligerent, cursing calling people bitches and Arab flunkies, niggas, and pussies. Nothing wrong with respectful critique or debate. But this nigga was acting foul. Dr. Wesley, who I know personally, comes with respect and in a civil manner, He even complimented Seti and said he respected him, even after all that shit he said. Wesley challenged him to a formal debate and the dude backed out on some really....bitch shit. He was bringing all this volatility and negative energy until he had the chance to bring his scholarship to the table and he backed out. He then went back on youtube and proceeded to talk shit after that.

That is not gangster or representative of Ancient Egypt, KMT, or Nubia. That is some agent shit that will get some unsuspecting person killed.

We can disagree but we should never let it get to the point where it gets to acting crazy in the public. I don't respect Seti for that.
 
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Look I can respect people looking up their heritage, but please keep an eye on reality. I for one cannot trace my heritage back up until a few centuries, forget about 2000 or 5000 years. Some of you cats are talking about that you do know your heritage but I bet you cannot name the 50 sultans that ruled over several tribes all over africa/the middle east during the 14th century....95% of those people/cultures in that century dont even exist anymore.

mothafuckaz called the niger the nyle for centuries do you realize that? they didnt know the niger was a different river. I'm talking farba sulaiman, fucking mussufas and shit didnt know that the niger wasnt the nyle.mofos had 30 wifes, traded slaves like no tomorrow, kept traditions that don't even exist anymore and you cats think you know how you descend from 3000 years ago? chances are my ancestors were slaves lol, cause 1rd of the world was a fucking slave back in the day.

How can you know that you are related/who is related to (mostly fictional people) from 3000 years ago when you cannot even name the various dead cultures and kings of one random century? please realize that there have been a lot of different people in africa/the middle east the last 5000 years and you are simply lying to yourself if you simply label them 'egyptian' nubian' 'hebrew' etc

I guess its just cool to believe in ancient scriptures and link yourself with it, instead of looking reality in the face and realizing that you are ignorant on human history and that there is no way in hell you can prove that you descend from someone who supposelydly lived 3000 years ago. Fuck it, next time someone ask, I'll just say I descend from both gilgamesj and enkidu, I read the epic, I might have ancestors from babylon/sumeria cause I'm from the north african region.

see how idiotic that shit is? stop believing in these lies and start reading some random medie evil book, pick one from Mali, Morocco whatever, you will read about people long forgotten and realize that there is nothing special etc about those biblical israelites. mofos wore gold armor, red ropes, golden crossbows in mali, they never gave a fuck about israel and were waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more sophisticated than the israelites, who btw are still a mythical group just like the fucks from atlantis.

reality is more interesting than fiction.
 
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Alkindus;3112473 said:
Look I can respect people looking up their heritage, but please keep an eye on reality. I for one cannot trace my heritage back up until a few centuries, forget about 2000 or 5000 years. Some of you cats are talking about that you do know your heritage but I bet you cannot name the 50 sultans that ruled over several tribes all over africa/the middle east during the 14th century....95% of those people/cultures in that century dont even exist anymore.

mothafuckaz called the niger the nyle for centuries do you realize that? they didnt know the niger was a different river. I'm talking farba sulaiman, fucking mussufas and shit didnt know that the niger wasnt the nyle.mofos had 30 wifes, traded slaves like no tomorrow, kept traditions that don't even exist anymore and you cats think you know how you descend from 3000 years ago? chances are my ancestors were slaves lol, cause 1rd of the world was a fucking slave back in the day.

How can you know that you are related/who is related to (mostly fictional people) from 3000 years ago when you cannot even name the various dead cultures and kings of one random century? please realize that there have been a lot of different people in africa/the middle east the last 5000 years and you are simply lying to yourself if you simply label them 'egyptian' nubian' 'hebrew' etc

I guess its just cool to believe in ancient scriptures and link yourself with it, instead of looking reality in the face and realizing that you are ignorant on human history and that there is no way in hell you can prove that you descend from someone who supposelydly lived 3000 years ago. Fuck it, next time someone ask, I'll just say I descend from both gilgamesj and enkidu, I read the epic, I might have ancestors from babylon/sumeria cause I'm from the north african region.

see how idiotic that shit is? stop believing in these lies and start reading some random medie evil book, pick one from Mali, Morocco whatever, you will read about people long forgotten and realize that there is nothing special etc about those biblical israelites. mofos wore gold armor, red ropes, golden crossbows in mali, they never gave a fuck about israel and were waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay more sophisticated than the israelites, who btw are still a mythical group just like the fucks from atlantis.

reality is more interesting than fiction.
lol...nobody's paying you attention, faggot. You're not black so this discussion doesn't involve you. Go find a camel jockey forum, Ahab.

There's nothing in your worthless ass life that you've done that measures up to 1% of the brothers and sisters who we were discussing. And nothing in your meaningless existence compares to the progress we African Hebrew Israelites specifically have made. Nigga, you act like we ain't been repatriated all over Africa for about half a century. The indigenous people tell us they have been waiting on us. The expectation came from oral tradition stretching backs for many centuries.

Call us mythical but we do real things. you don't. So shut the fuck up.
 
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As soon as you see the word Israel you jump in with your two cents, and nobody gives a shit.

P.S. I paid to have my family tree traced. I'm from Ashanti stock who are documented as having Israelite customs. Scholars documented this, not some opinionated anti-Semitic asshole on a rap forum.
 
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judahxulu;3112527 said:
lol...nobody's paying you attention, faggot. You're not black so this discussion doesn't involve you. Go find a camel jockey forum, Ahab.

There's nothing in your worthless ass life that you've done that measures up to 1% of the brothers and sisters who we were discussing. And nothing in your meaningless existence compares to the progress we African Hebrew Israelites specifically have made. Nigga, you act like we ain't been repatriated all over Africa for about half a century. The indigenous people tell us they have been waiting on us. The expectation came from oral tradition stretching backs for many centuries.

Call us mythical but we do real things. you don't. So shut the fuck up.

lol You're internet thuggin now? no need for intelligent discussion whatsover? your fundamentels are fragile my friend, if you keep exposing yourself so easily. Whats wrong you cannot name any kings or cultures that lived in one random century in africa? or are you offended by my posts in general? eitherway it got the pathetic side out of you. This is nothing but a internet forum son....plus it;s never wise to judge people you dont know, we dont actually know eachother remember?

edit: why are you calling me an anti semite btw? I dont believe in these labels but one of my native tonques is semitic, I am 'semetic', I was speakin 'semetic' years before you even considered studying a semetic language, Israel is not the only country where they speak a semetic language bro. Get real.

double edit lol: Yeah I drop my 2 cents everytime I see mofo's worshippin Israel because its one of the most fucked up countries in the world, if you have balls you go to the gaza strip and live with the palestians, go through the checkpoints and get your house bulldozed etc, mothafuck Israel and eveybody who lives on that land and therfor directly supports the oppresion of the palestinians, you dont realize you are a fucking coon, you are like a african brotha that lives with de klerk/de boeren/white elites in apartheid south africa, shit is pathetic.
 
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Alkindus;3112592 said:
lol You're internet thuggin now? no need for intelligent discussion whatsover? your fundamentels are fragile my friend, if you keep exposing yourself so easily. Whats wrong you cannot name any kings or cultures that lived in one random century in africa? or are you offended by my posts in general? eitherway it got the pathetic side out of you. This is nothing but a internet forum son....plus it;s never wise to judge people you dont know, we dont actually know eachother remember?

No thuggery stupid. When I say we do real things im talking building not destroying. I could name hundreds of kings and cultures....any jackass with google can do that. What does it prove? Whats the point? I'd rather name how we trying to make new boreholes, build sun ovens and rice mills and whatnot in this day and time. And what you call mythical has inspired those unprecedented contributions to Africa by the ONLY independent repatriation group EVER. Be a part of something like that and maybe I'll respect your opinion.

You dudes kill me on here though...you talking about it aint wise to judge people you don't know but thats what you come up in here doing. You judging who did or didn't live thousands of years ago and you weren't there, so live by your own logic.

Word to And Step, quit throwing stones and hiding your hand cause either way you will get checked.
 
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judahxulu;3112638 said:
No thuggery stupid. When I say we do real things im talking building not destroying. I could name hundreds of kings and cultures....any jackass with google can do that. What does it prove? Whats the point? I'd rather name how we trying to make new boreholes, build sun ovens and rice mills and whatnot in this day and time. And what you call mythical has inspired those unprecedented contributions to Africa by the ONLY independent repatriation group EVER. Be a part of something like that and maybe I'll respect your opinion.

You dudes kill me on here though...you talking about it aint wise to judge people you don't know but thats what you come up in here doing. You judging who did or didn't live thousands of years ago and you weren't there, so live by your own logic.

Word to And Step, quit throwing stones and hiding your hand cause either way you will get checked.

Yeah that just makes you any jackass with google right? you realize people wrote books 2 back in the day you can actually study?books that were enclosed to the public for centuries which only scholars could look upon? look, where I'm from mofo's dont need to form groups to help out their community or people in general,people just do what they do to help each other out, no big deal at all, and once again, I dont care if you respect my opinion or not, it would be a sad day in my life if I gave a damn about what some bro on the internet I dont even know thinks of me.

these discussions just interest me

anyway carry on.
 
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Alkindus;3112673 said:
Yeah that just makes you any jackass with google right? you realize people wrote books 2 back in the day you can actually study?books that were enclosed to the public for centuries which only scholars could look upon? look, where I'm from mofo's dont need to form groups to help out their community or people in general,people just do what they do to help each other out, no big deal at all, and once again, I dont care if you respect my opinion or not, it would be a sad day in my life if I gave a damn about what some bro on the internet I dont even know thinks of me.

these discussions just interest me

anyway carry on.

Im asking, what does it prove to ask some one to name random kings and tribes on the internet? I could see if you were like quizzing somebody in person but this ain't that. i seriously don't understand the logic in that.

Thats fine about where you're from BUT THATS NOT MY REALITY. We are a community that goes out and helps other people, primarily Africans. Being that you are not descended from Africans stolen in the Ma'afa you cannot understand why it might not be so ingrained in all of us to automatically help one another without having to form groups and/or rally behind a special cause.
 
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