The Official MMA Thread: Alvarez TKOs Gaethje, Ngannou KOs Overeem, Holloway TKOs Aldo
lurkinassnigga
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shizza;7541387 said:
A guy shits his pants, another dude drops a blatant headbutt from top position, and a girl's cauliflower ear explodes. Interesting night so far.
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DOPEdweebz
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Rampage12;7536989 said:
Rampage12;7536989 said:
cainvelasquez;7522646 said:
Shogun will never be champ again but I think he should drop down to 185 and fight all gatekeepers like Mark Munoz to finish off his career and retire withd ignity.
DOPEdweebz
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Rampage12;7536989 said:
Romero is hard to get down even Derick Brunson had a hard time.. how the fuck Jacare gonna take him down? I think Romero has better boxing but Jacare is faster, but I dont think he can out clinch Romero. It's a very interesting fight. Winner of that should face whoever Rochold beats next or for the MW title next.
lurkinassnigga
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Hunt was getting the best of Werdum on the feet. Dropped him a few times. I wanted him to win badly and it looked like he was on his way to doing so but Werdum timed that knee beautifully.
DOPEdweebz
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Werdum got lucky but at the same time he knew what he was doing. Cain will own Werdum easily. Easily. Cain by 1st round slaughter. Hunt exposed the shit out of Werdum. i also think you can still beat Werdum in his guard also if you have the right GNP power and defense vs Werdum guard. Jus dont leave your arms extended in his arms and keep your head to his chest with your other hand under Werdum head and other shit I've been learning. Fuck Werdum for grabbing the shit out of the fence. he should have had a point deducted 5 times in the first round.
War Hunt and War Cain.
Kelvin Gastleum is the new age Mexican American Matt Hughes.
War Hunt and War Cain.
Kelvin Gastleum is the new age Mexican American Matt Hughes.
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b4rPnQrC32H4cT
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Werdum is a sneaky bastard. Good fight.
lurkinassnigga
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King Mo (W) vs Joe Vedepo
Melvin Manhoef vs Joe Schilling (W)
Ricardo Lamas (W) vs Dennis Bermudez
Kelvin Gastellum (W) vs Jake Ellenberger
Fabricio Werdum (W) vs Mark Hunt
Will Brooks (W) vs Michael Chandler
Tito wins by split
Melvin Manhoef vs Joe Schilling (W)
Ricardo Lamas (W) vs Dennis Bermudez
Kelvin Gastellum (W) vs Jake Ellenberger
Fabricio Werdum (W) vs Mark Hunt
Will Brooks (W) vs Michael Chandler
Tito wins by split
Will Munny
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lol what happened in the Will Brooks fight?
playmaker88
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He didnt even realize what he did shit was crazy never seen shit like that
iKingGodGivBiz;7541634 said:
Bruh Derek Brunson was a Division II wrestler and cheerleader so it's not like he's some wrestling stud. Also Ronny Markes also took Romero down numerous times and he's a straight up jiu jitsu fighter. Plus Romero has shit cardio while Jacare has gone 5 hard rounds with Rockhold. Easy W for Jacare.
DOPEdweebz
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Rampage12;7544128 said:
MMA wrestling is different. What was Rashad Evans compared to Chael Sonnen? or Jon Jones vs every great wrestler he outwrestled. What was GSP's wrestling credentials?
Romero has shit cardio but still finds a way to win and finish in 3rd rounds. His only loss was at 205 and watched that vs Rafael (Feijao), and skill wise he's so much improved form that it's scary.
I got Yoel Romero in this. We'll see. I wouldnt be surprised EITHER WAY.
Imma start my rankings and post it here also.
Will Brooks needs to be in the UFC btw.
iKingGodGivBiz;7544958 said:
The point I'm trying to prove is that Brunson isn't a great MMA wrestler either and is a average fighter so dropping the first two rounds to him before TKO'ing him in the 3rd doesn't impress me much. I mean the guy lost to freaking Kendall Grove.
Will Munny
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Romero is built for the wrestling match. He should really try to tailor his training to get his body composition better suited for a 15 minute fight.
I don't know shit tho. But really a guy who wrestled as long as him is gonna struggle to slow his pace down to fight 15 minutes. Wrestling matches are short but they are a balls to the wall sprint. Very few MMA fighters can do that for 15 minutes.
I don't know shit tho. But really a guy who wrestled as long as him is gonna struggle to slow his pace down to fight 15 minutes. Wrestling matches are short but they are a balls to the wall sprint. Very few MMA fighters can do that for 15 minutes.
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Yeah Rogan does say muscled out guys have poor cardio alot, but I do think slowing down the wrestling "attack attack attack" mindset might be part of it too. Or maybe not.
There are some muscle guys that have had good cardio in the past. Can't think of any off the top of my head except maybe Sherk and Hughes so maybe there aren't really that many.
There are some muscle guys that have had good cardio in the past. Can't think of any off the top of my head except maybe Sherk and Hughes so maybe there aren't really that many.
DOPEdweebz
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Rampage12;7550162 said:
Woodley only loses to guys who can clearly outstrike him like Rory and nate. Oteh rthan that all he does is KO guys the first round.. what poor cardio?
hector Lombard has a similar cardio and rarely gasses.
Overeem been on roids.
Palhares is another big frame guy who usually finishes guys in the first round or gets finished in the first round.
The reason why these "muscle" guys may look tired is because they're used to finishing guys in the first round ala Carwin.
That being said Yoel usually finishes guys in the 3rd, Brunson, Kennedy and etc.
Bj Penn and Shogun both have terrible cardio and have very little muscle mass.
DOPEdweebz
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anyways I'm doing a top 10 rankings for each weightclass Imma post them every few days for each one.
UFC LIGHTWEIGHT CLASS
C. Pettis
1. Khabib Nurmagomedov
2. Rafael dos Anjos
3. Benson Henderson
4. Gilbert Melendez
5. Bobby Green
6. Josh Thomson
7. Nate Diaz
8. Donald Cerrone
9. Rustam Khabilov
10. Jim Miller
*TJ Grant (left him out due to being inactive for more than a year now)
UFC LIGHTWEIGHT CLASS
C. Pettis
1. Khabib Nurmagomedov
2. Rafael dos Anjos
3. Benson Henderson
4. Gilbert Melendez
5. Bobby Green
6. Josh Thomson
7. Nate Diaz
8. Donald Cerrone
9. Rustam Khabilov
10. Jim Miller
*TJ Grant (left him out due to being inactive for more than a year now)
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DOPEdweebz
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Bobby Green considering retirement..
http://www.cagepotato.com/quote-of-...this-weekend-might-be-my-last-fight-nooooooo/
The last year of Bobby Green's life has been a huge series of professional highs and personal lows.
The former Strikeforce fighter came to the UFC where he's remained undefeated including his latest win over Josh Thomson, which catapulted him into the top 10 rankings. While this was all going on, Green was dealing with the loss of one brother and another getting shot as a result of violence in the area where they grew up.
It's impossible to grapple with the kind of turmoil Green has dealt with all while making a steady climb up the lightweight rankings, but that's exactly what he's been doing. As he prepares for his next fight this weekend against Edson Barboza, Green has managed to find a new home where his professional and personal lives intercede with one another.
"I went to train with the Diaz brothers," Green revealed when speaking to FOX Sports. "It was fun, it was a great experience. It changed my life."
Green teamed up with Nick and Nate Diaz as well as UFC lightweight contender Gilbert Melendez and former UFC title challenger Jake Shields. The results have not only put him on the right path to get a victory this weekend, but he believes it helped him feel a sense of family around again.
“THEY'RE VERY SECLUDED AND THEY'RE VERY PICKY WHO COMES TO THEIR CAMPS. WE JUST MADE A PACT THAT WE WON'T FIGHT EACH OTHER. ME AND GILBERT (MELENDEZ) OR NATE (DIAZ) AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS."”
— Bobby Green
"It's not many times you get to be around the guys you looked up to in fighting and get to experience how they train and how they do things. It was a very enlightening thing just to get to experience that," Green said.
"It was amazing. I got to stay at Nate's house the whole time. He really treated me like a little brother. I'm just very appreciative. I don't have words for it."
Many fighters don't like to welcome in teammates who could eventually be potential opponents down the road in the same weight class. It often times creates tension and a bad vibe around a team when two fighters are both gunning for the same top spot.
Rashad Evans originally left his team at Greg Jackson's in New Mexico during a conflict when Jon Jones was added to the gym. Both fighters were gunning for the light heavyweight title and it ultimately led to Evans leaving the gym all together.
Green promises that's not going to happen with his new team. Actually team might not even be the correct word for it. The better terminology when it comes to the Diaz brothers along with Melendez and Shields is family.
"There was concern. They're very secluded and they're very picky who comes to their camps," Green stated. "We just made a pact that we won't fight each other. Me and Gilbert (Melendez) or Nate (Diaz) and that's what it is."
As it stands, Green is currently on a collision course with the top five fighters in the division, which is where Diaz might find himself as well with a win over Rafael Dos Anjos in December, not to mention Melendez going for the UFC lightweight title at UFC 181.
Green promises none of that matters to him.
He's not here to win gold belts and claim No. 1 status. Green will have no problem playing gatekeeper to Melendez and Diaz if that's what he needs to do.
"It's the same road for me. It means Nate would probably fall in second and I'll probably fall into third. I'm not here to impress anybody. I'm not here for the belt. I'm here to feed my family and that's it," Green said.
"At the end of the day, what is my purpose? My purpose is to make money for my family. My purpose is to honor God and thank him for these talents that he's given me and that's it. If it doesn't fall into those two categories then I don't have any concern. It really doesn't bother me."
It might sound like a strange philosophy for a fighter who is now so close to the top of the division where title shots are usually the main topic of discussion. Green would rather praise the fact that he finally found people to surround himself with that have his best interests at heart and that's worth more than gold.
"Everyone chooses side and the Diaz's chose me. I finally found somebody who's willing to buddy up with me. Before this all these other fighters they don't know who I am, they don't care who I am so no one's given the time to work with me. (The Diaz brothers) have been more than welcoming," Green said.
"They get portrayed in the media as these big, bad guys and it does get to that point where we're in the business of fighting. You sign that dotted line, you are my enemy and I'm going to do what I need to do to take you out. This is the business of fighting. We're not playing basketball so I understand where the (Diaz brothers) are coming from."
http://www.cagepotato.com/quote-of-...this-weekend-might-be-my-last-fight-nooooooo/
The last year of Bobby Green's life has been a huge series of professional highs and personal lows.
The former Strikeforce fighter came to the UFC where he's remained undefeated including his latest win over Josh Thomson, which catapulted him into the top 10 rankings. While this was all going on, Green was dealing with the loss of one brother and another getting shot as a result of violence in the area where they grew up.
It's impossible to grapple with the kind of turmoil Green has dealt with all while making a steady climb up the lightweight rankings, but that's exactly what he's been doing. As he prepares for his next fight this weekend against Edson Barboza, Green has managed to find a new home where his professional and personal lives intercede with one another.
"I went to train with the Diaz brothers," Green revealed when speaking to FOX Sports. "It was fun, it was a great experience. It changed my life."
Green teamed up with Nick and Nate Diaz as well as UFC lightweight contender Gilbert Melendez and former UFC title challenger Jake Shields. The results have not only put him on the right path to get a victory this weekend, but he believes it helped him feel a sense of family around again.
“THEY'RE VERY SECLUDED AND THEY'RE VERY PICKY WHO COMES TO THEIR CAMPS. WE JUST MADE A PACT THAT WE WON'T FIGHT EACH OTHER. ME AND GILBERT (MELENDEZ) OR NATE (DIAZ) AND THAT'S WHAT IT IS."”
— Bobby Green
"It's not many times you get to be around the guys you looked up to in fighting and get to experience how they train and how they do things. It was a very enlightening thing just to get to experience that," Green said.
"It was amazing. I got to stay at Nate's house the whole time. He really treated me like a little brother. I'm just very appreciative. I don't have words for it."
Many fighters don't like to welcome in teammates who could eventually be potential opponents down the road in the same weight class. It often times creates tension and a bad vibe around a team when two fighters are both gunning for the same top spot.
Rashad Evans originally left his team at Greg Jackson's in New Mexico during a conflict when Jon Jones was added to the gym. Both fighters were gunning for the light heavyweight title and it ultimately led to Evans leaving the gym all together.
Green promises that's not going to happen with his new team. Actually team might not even be the correct word for it. The better terminology when it comes to the Diaz brothers along with Melendez and Shields is family.
"There was concern. They're very secluded and they're very picky who comes to their camps," Green stated. "We just made a pact that we won't fight each other. Me and Gilbert (Melendez) or Nate (Diaz) and that's what it is."
As it stands, Green is currently on a collision course with the top five fighters in the division, which is where Diaz might find himself as well with a win over Rafael Dos Anjos in December, not to mention Melendez going for the UFC lightweight title at UFC 181.
Green promises none of that matters to him.
He's not here to win gold belts and claim No. 1 status. Green will have no problem playing gatekeeper to Melendez and Diaz if that's what he needs to do.
"It's the same road for me. It means Nate would probably fall in second and I'll probably fall into third. I'm not here to impress anybody. I'm not here for the belt. I'm here to feed my family and that's it," Green said.
"At the end of the day, what is my purpose? My purpose is to make money for my family. My purpose is to honor God and thank him for these talents that he's given me and that's it. If it doesn't fall into those two categories then I don't have any concern. It really doesn't bother me."
It might sound like a strange philosophy for a fighter who is now so close to the top of the division where title shots are usually the main topic of discussion. Green would rather praise the fact that he finally found people to surround himself with that have his best interests at heart and that's worth more than gold.
"Everyone chooses side and the Diaz's chose me. I finally found somebody who's willing to buddy up with me. Before this all these other fighters they don't know who I am, they don't care who I am so no one's given the time to work with me. (The Diaz brothers) have been more than welcoming," Green said.
"They get portrayed in the media as these big, bad guys and it does get to that point where we're in the business of fighting. You sign that dotted line, you are my enemy and I'm going to do what I need to do to take you out. This is the business of fighting. We're not playing basketball so I understand where the (Diaz brothers) are coming from."
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