The Official Hebrew Israelite Thread

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blue falcon;24395 said:
Before we start making wild claims I think you are missing the obvious that this is talking about the slavery in Egypt NOT America.

can you prove that there were hebrew slaves in Egypt? while you're at it prove the existence of Moses.
 
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good debate though......each argument had god points. But watching hoe the entire world, watches, mimmicks, and admire the black man with so much hatred one has to wonder why do they go to so much effort to hide our history? why do they hate us s much? not just the white man, the entire world? And then we are the lowest of citizens in each corner of the world, even in our homeland. Did the bible say what was first will be last and what last will be first? To me, ever sinced i seen Cee-lo profound Lyrics on Youtube freestye it sparked a feeling i've had inside for sometime and made me research when i can. This is the era of Truth, more and more people our being exposed to their lies, scandals, and scary truths....so every1 has their own opinions and i have mines....
 
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YOU HAVE BEEN LIED TO HERE IS THE TRUTH ... THE MOST HIGH IS NOT DEALING WITH ANYONE BUT ISRAEL
WE ARE THE TRUE BIBLICAL ISRAELITES

THE 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL

JUDAH- American Blacks
BENJAMIN- West Indian Blacks
LEVI- Haitians
SIMEON- Dominicans
ZEBULON- Black Indians Guatemala to Panama(Mayans)
EPHRAIM- Puerto Ricans
MANASSEH- Cubans
GAD- Native-American Indians
REUBEN- Seminole Indians
ASHER- Columbia to Uruguay (Incas)
ISSACHAR- Mexicans (Aztecs)
NAPTHALI- Argentina/Chile
PEACE

WWW.YOUTUBE.COM/SOUNDSOFJACOB
 
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I find it difficult to fathom God, who created man, giving man any reason to be proud of their descent. This declaration seems to suggest there is more to the claims than just, "Hey, this is what the Bible says!!!"
 
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Forget Hebrew and Understanding the Bible, cause we have atrahasis and a shitload of other epic scrolls from civilisations that were 'non-hebrew', that predate all the hebrew scrolls and just like the romans compiled a shitload of non roman scrolls to their own use, the hebrews did the same(so in essence there really is no diefference between the bible/tora when it comes to authencity). So why pretend like studying hebrew gives you grand insight(which is offcourse partially true) but denie the extremely obvious influence of Babylonian/other middle eastern/afrikan scrolls? Noah= a atrahasis rip of. The entire 'hebrew' bible is just as authentic as the 'roman' bible in it's essentials.

true or not?
 
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Alkindus;376370 said:
cause we have atrahasis and a shitload of other epic scrolls from civilisations that were 'non-hebrew', that predate all the hebrew scrolls and just like the romans compiled a shitload of non roman scrolls to their own use, the hebrews did the same(so in essence there really is no diefference between the bible/tora when it comes to authencity). So why pretend like studying hebrew gives you grand insight(which is offcourse partially true) but denie the extremely obvious influence of Babylonian/other middle eastern/afrikan scrolls? Noah= a atrahasis rip of. The entire 'hebrew' bible is just as authentic as the 'roman' bible in it's essentials.

true or not?

Not.

There is a big difference because hebrew really does not translate that well in to English. There are so many nuances to the Semitic Languages that get lost in translation, you would have to study and know the original to catch them.

But with that being said, the Language is secondary because wisdom transcends language.You make the same mistake most people make in thinking that just because something predated something that makes it superior or different. Those principles in the Tanakh, Quran, or Bible are not new. However they were just passed down to other people in a codified way so they could grasp it. Thats all.

People pass down wisdom from generation to generation to advance the civilization. Let's be real, if the atrahasis, metu neter, and scrolls were superior how come they were overran by outsiders? This is a question that many don't want and can't answer.
 
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Alkindus;376370 said:
cause we have atrahasis and a shitload of other epic scrolls from civilisations that were 'non-hebrew', that predate all the hebrew scrolls and just like the romans compiled a shitload of non roman scrolls to their own use, the hebrews did the same(so in essence there really is no diefference between the bible/tora when it comes to authencity). So why pretend like studying hebrew gives you grand insight(which is offcourse partially true) but denie the extremely obvious influence of Babylonian/other middle eastern/afrikan scrolls? Noah= a atrahasis rip of. The entire 'hebrew' bible is just as authentic as the 'roman' bible in it's essentials.

true or not?

we get it, your an atheist...so why post about it
 
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I can speak and write arabic, I know translations are interpertations believe me. I am not saying the older texts are superior, I am saying that it makes no sense to put the hebrew bible on somekind of pedestal, when it in essence is no more authentic than the roman bible. Studying hebrew gives you greater insight in the hebrew bible off course, but that is all.

everything gets overran by insiders-outsiders, everything is a umpredictable chain of event, many empires have risen and fallen the last 7000 years. People burned down timbuktu and the library of alexanderia for UR's sake. Wisdom/scrolls get lost, civilisations get slaughtered, empires take over and they fall(hell, christianity was thrown in the throats of europeans by roman rulers). It is obvious why ancient scrollsget lost, if it wasn't for the arabs and moors greek philosophy would have probably been lost to europeans. When Isabella was queen of Spain she ordered the destruction of over a million books. I don't understand whats so hard about answering that question lol. Fact remains that anno2010 the scrolls are availiable to all of us, so they really didn't get lost at all.

and I am not a atheist, or does dissing the modern day perception held by individuels of a so called abrahamic faith make me an atheist?
 
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And Step;377589 said:
Not.

There is a big difference because hebrew really does not translate that well in to English. There are so many nuances to the Semitic Languages that get lost in translation, you would have to study and know the original to catch them.

But with that being said, the Language is secondary because wisdom transcends language.You make the same mistake most people make in thinking that just because something predated something that makes it superior or different. Those principles in the Tanakh, Quran, or Bible are not new. However they were just passed down to other people in a codified way so they could grasp it. Thats all.

People pass down wisdom from generation to generation to advance the civilization. Let's be real, if the atrahasis, metu neter, and scrolls were superior how come they were overran by outsiders? This is a question that many don't want and can't answer.

THIS ^ ... ORAL TRADITION IS OUR ABORIGINAL REALITY FURTHER MORE WE ARE THE LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL ... NOT AFRICANS

THE 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL

JUDAH- American Blacks ( WERE NOT REALLY AFRICAN)

BENJAMIN- West Indian Blacks

LEVI- Haitians

SIMEON- Dominicans

ZEBULON- Black Indians Guatemala to Panama(Mayans)

EPHRAIM- Puerto Ricans

MANASSEH- Cubans

GAD- Native-American Indians

REUBEN- Seminole Indians

ASHER- Columbia to Uruguay (Incas)

ISSACHAR- Mexicans (Aztecs)

NAPTHALI- Argentina/Chile

 
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Afrika and Israel are two words made up by individuels to describe landmass...to say that you are not afrikan or are israeli holds as much weight as you want to Sounds of Jacob. In the end, shit doesn't matter what you call yourself.

a thousand dead civilisations/nationalities etc. a billion dead followers of abraham, new nationalities, new names emerged, a thousand years from now I doubt people over here will still call themselves 'hollands'. what you call yourself is not important it is about your state of mind. As long as you give respect to identity Jacob, you will not see the light.
 
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sounds of jacob;380659 said:
THIS ^ ... ORAL TRADITION IS OUR ABORIGINAL REALITY FURTHER MORE WE ARE THE LOST TRIBES OF ISRAEL ... NOT AFRICANS

THE 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL

JUDAH- American Blacks ( WERE NOT REALLY AFRICAN)
BENJAMIN- West Indian Blacks
LEVI- Haitians
SIMEON- Dominicans
ZEBULON- Black Indians Guatemala to Panama(Mayans)
EPHRAIM- Puerto Ricans
MANASSEH- Cubans
GAD- Native-American Indians
REUBEN- Seminole Indians
ASHER- Columbia to Uruguay (Incas)
ISSACHAR- Mexicans (Aztecs)
NAPTHALI- Argentina/Chile



Can you decline a co-sign like politicians decline endorsements?
 
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And Step;381702 said:
Can you decline a co-sign like politicians decline endorsements?

lol I thought you laid the smackdown on him and his tribe theory several times already, I guess bro really is brainwashed. Or he could be jedi mind tricking our azzez and laughing at us everytime we debunk his youtube/12 tribe illusions.
 
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Alkindus;380636 said:
I can speak and write arabic, I know translations are interpertations believe me. I am not saying the older texts are superior, I am saying that it makes no sense to put the hebrew bible on somekind of pedestal, when it in essence is no more authentic than the roman bible. Studying hebrew gives you greater insight in the hebrew bible off course, but that is all.

everything gets overran by insiders-outsiders, everything is a umpredictable chain of event, many empires have risen and fallen the last 7000 years. People burned down timbuktu and the library of alexanderia for UR's sake. Wisdom/scrolls get lost, civilisations get slaughtered, empires take over and they fall(hell, christianity was thrown in the throats of europeans by roman rulers). It is obvious why ancient scrollsget lost, if it wasn't for the arabs and moors greek philosophy would have probably been lost to europeans. When Isabella was queen of Spain she ordered the destruction of over a million books. I don't understand whats so hard about answering that question lol. Fact remains that anno2010 the scrolls are availiable to all of us, so they really didn't get lost at all.

and I am not a atheist, or does dissing the modern day perception held by individuels of a so called abrahamic faith make me an atheist?

I am not putting Hebrew on a pedestal. All I am saying is that it doesn't translate into English as well because of the linguistic propensities of the language. You speak Arabic. You know that there words in Arabic that have multi -layered meanings, depend upon how they are used. Take Salaam for instance, that means Peace, but it is also the root of the Islam which means something different. The word Allah, many translate to mean God, but that is an insufficient description because that word literally means all of his attributes in their highest forms. God is just one. Merciful, Beneficent, Wise, Knower, these are all part of the word Allah. Rabb is another multi-layered word depending on how you use it. You really can't translate these words into English using just one word.

Abraham did not start any faith. According to all those faiths ascribed to him, there were people before him who followed the way of God. He is erroneously credited with something that belongs only to the Creator. According to the Tanakh, Bible, and Quran. God created Adam and breathed inspiration in him and taught him his place in creation. This was before Abraham.

Faith will disappear once man learns how to live in accord with nature. Adam didn't need faith.
 
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And Step;381785 said:
I am not putting Hebrew on a pedestal. All I am saying is that it doesn't translate into English as well because of the linguistic propensities of the language. You speak Arabic. You know that there words in Arabic that have multi -layered meanings, depend upon how they are used. Take Salaam for instance, that means Peace, but it is also the root of the Islam which means something different. The word Allah, many translate to mean God, but that is an insufficient description because that word literally means all of his attributes in their highest forms. God is just one. Merciful, Beneficent, Wise, Knower, these are all part of the word Allah. Rabb is another multi-layered word depending on how you use it. You really can't translate these words into English using just one word.

Abraham did not start any faith. According to all those faiths ascribed to him, there were people before him who followed the way of God. He is erroneously credited with something that belongs only to the Creator. According to the Tanakh, Bible, and Quran. God created Adam and breathed inspiration in him and taught him his place in creation. This was before Abraham.

Faith will disappear once man learns how to live in accord with nature. Adam didn't need faith.

thats an epic last sentence(I'm quoting it to some bros tonight lol), do you think that our desire to control everything(wheter governmental/or small scaled), wanting everything secure/safe, no risks etc(kinda freightened state of mind imo) is what keeps us from getting in accord with nature? is faith a product of our own fear?
 
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Alkindus;381818 said:
thats an epic last sentence(I'm quoting it to some bros tonight lol), do you think that our desire to control everything(wheter governmental/or small scaled), wanting everything secure/safe, no risks etc(kinda freightened state of mind imo) is what keeps us from getting in accord with nature? is faith a product of our own fear?

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Yes to most of that.

I wouldn't say faith is a product of fear. I would say fear is a product of the absence of knowledge, and faith is a natural internal mechanism that grows us into greater knowledge so faith becomes unneccesary.

Newborns demonstrate faith when they first nurse on their mother's breast. They have never done it before and yet they pull on the breast to draw milk. They are rewarded. That is faith and it's testimony.
 
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Alkindus;381676 said:
Afrika and Israel are two words made up by individuels to describe landmass...to say that you are not afrikan or are israeli holds as much weight as you want to Sounds of Jacob. In the end, shit doesn't matter what you call yourself.

a thousand dead civilisations/nationalities etc. a billion dead followers of abraham, new nationalities, new names emerged, a thousand years from now I doubt people over here will still call themselves 'hollands'. what you call yourself is not important it is about your state of mind. As long as you give respect to identity Jacob, you will not see the light.

Afrika and Israel are two words made up by individuels to describe landmass.

OK SO NOW I NO YOU DONT SPEAK "ARABIC" ALTHOUGH THERE IS NO SUCH THING ..., MOVING ON .. ... THE WORD ISRAEL TRANSLATES TO "YASHARAHLA" AND IT MEANS" "A PRINCE OF THE POWER/GOD"' THATS IN THE HIEROGLYPHICS PHARAOH MERNEPTAH WROTE ABOUT THE DESTRUCTION OF "ISRAEL " A PEOPLE BEFORE A PLACE...

ONLY NEGROES/ CAUCASIAN LIBERALS .. HAVE THESE POST 20TH CENTURY PSUEDO INTELLECTUAL CONSTRUCTS AS IF ITS INNOVATIVE .. EVERY ONE HAS A NATIONALITY MAN STOP IT THATS RHETORIC YOU POSTED .. YOU SUFFER FROM" POST TRAUMATIC SLAVE SYNDROME " IF YOUR SO CALLED BLACK ... .. AND WHEN IM TALKIN THE 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL THERE IS METAPHYSICAL ALLEGORY BEHIND THAT SO ITS BIGGER THAN JUST A NAME A TITLE WE ARE THE CREATORS CHOSEN SEED
 
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sounds of jacob;448759 said:
THE "CROSS" REALLY COMES FROM ANCIENT KEMET "THE ANKH" NAPOLEON PLAGIARIZED IT EASTER FOR ALL YOU CHRISTIANS COMES FROM MYTHRA THE FERTILITY GODDESS (ANCIENT BABYLON) BUNNYS DO NOT LAY EGGS !!!! THAT WAS A MISTRANSLATION IN THE BIBLE THEY TAUGHT YOU IN SLAVERY IMMACULATE CONCEPTION ANCIENT KEMET LOL SEMIRAMIS AND BABY TAMUS ... WHITE JESUS = CEASRE BORGIA PAINTED BY MICHELANGELO EVERY ONE COULD BE SAVED !!!! THATS BLASPHEMY !!! !! SO CALLED JESUS THE CHRIST ONLY DIED FOR THE 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL !!

THE 12 TRIBES OF ISRAEL

JUDAH- American Blacks ( WERE NOT REALLY AFRICAN)

BENJAMIN- West Indian Blacks

LEVI- Haitians

SIMEON- Dominicans

ZEBULON- Black Indians Guatemala to Panama(Mayans)

EPHRAIM- Puerto Ricans

MANASSEH- Cubans

GAD- Native-American Indians

REUBEN- Seminole Indians

ASHER- Columbia to Uruguay (Incas)

ISSACHAR- Mexicans (Aztecs)

NAPTHALI- Argentina/Chile

www.youtube.com/rabbiyakub



The one thing I don't understand about the 12 tribes and Africans not being one of the tribes, is that, if they base the tribes off of the suffering of Blacks and Hispanics in the Americas and all over the world, why are the Africans suffering just as much, if not worse than the American Blacks but not considered a tribe? Not all Africans sold Blacks into slavery, just like not all Blacks in America are going to be on the same side as Judah, so Why condemn all of Africans, even the ones suffering, based on a few that partook in the slave trade (mostly out of having no other choice at the time cuz the white devil made them an offer they could not refuse) .... then turn around and not condemn all of Judah for the Brothers who sold out to the white man and push that filth on the radio and tv to keep our brothers lost?

Also, how the hell can you possibly tell the difference between an Isrealite and an African who both live in Africa if they both look the same ethnicity?
 
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