blue falcon;25747 said:
Are you talking to me or someone else? I'll assume ur talking to me.
I'm no devil my friend I'm a born again Christian I've recieved the circumcision of the heart and spirit making me and all other born again christinas the REAL JEWS.
Romans 2:28-29 (King James Version)
28For he is not a Jew, which is one outwardly; neither is that circumcision, which is outward in the flesh:
29But he is a Jew, which is one inwardly; and circumcision is that of the heart, in the spirit, and not in the letter; whose praise is not of men, but of God.
follow the law all you want my friend. Use all the hebrew words you want and keep babbling on about how you are a real jew. As long as you are under the law and not under grace you are nothing more than a spiritually blind infant. You need to repent of you foolishness and spiritual fornication and turn to Jesus for salvation.
Evidently you are on who believes you have been adopted into the covenant. The Gentiles that were being taught the message of salvation were kin already to the very one that died for their sins. Many of the scattered that didn't dwell among the remnant became also known as gentiles being that they lived amongst the Gentiles and did what the Gentiles did. So they obtained the same identity (Gentiles, Romans, Greeks, Persians, Ethiopian, Corinthians, Collosians, Ephesians, Thessalonians etc etc etc) because of the sins they were living in. Like that old saying "When in Rome do as the Romans" ... The scattered of Israel/Judah were among these people taking on their identity, their homosexual customs, eating forbidden foods, worshipping the Gentile gods etc etc.
So therefore they (Israelites) were called Gentiles by those of the remnant that remained and kept the laws and ordinances. These Gentiles that Paul addressed and was sent to were his kin who was of a generation that cared not for their heritage not even considered (but there was few that did). Many that did keep some ordinances who lived in these other places during this rime were defined by their nationalities (though they were ethnically Hebrews/Israelites). Examples of this would be Titus, Cornelius, The Ethiopian on the highway heading to Jerusalem to worship, and many others. Paul never went against this command:
Mat 10:5 ¶ These twelve Jesus sent forth, and
commanded them, saying,
Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into [any] city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
Mat 10:6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
Mat 10:7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
Mat 10:8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.
Remember Christ said: Mat 15:24 But he answered and said, I am not sent but unto the lost sheep of the house of Israel. (that means his teachings/message are to go to only them but they became as the Gentiles thus being called Gentiles)
Did Christ change his mind? Was Paul a rogue doing what he wanted by teaching the gentile heathen nations? No, Because Paul knew who his people (kin/brothers) were among them. (Most Gentiles weren't the lost sheep of Israel, factions of them were)
Rom 9:3 For I could wish that myself were accursed from Christ for my
brethren, my kinsmen according to the flesh: (you dont call random heathen Gentiles family terms like "brother/sister/kin" but the ones Paul addressed were all his flesh kin)
Rom 9:4
Who are Israelites; (not became Israelites but are Israelites according to the flesh, no grafting in here) to whom [pertaineth] the adoption, and the glory, and the covenants, and the giving of the law, and the service [of God], and the promises;
Rom 9:5 Whose [are] the fathers,
and of whom as concerning the flesh Christ [came], (Christ did come in the flesh, had flesh appearance right? if he healed one of his own and someone asked for a description of the man that healed them they would give height, weight, flesh tone, hair type. Paul knew his kin Israelites who became/identified themselves as being Gentiles according to their fleshly appearance, the flesh Christ came in) who is over all, God blessed for ever. Amen.
Issue about being Jews inwardly is about these Israelites (many who identified as Gentiles) who didn't know their heritage being brought back into the fold by way of being "born again" and thats spiritually not physically. This was exclusive to the Lost Sheep of Israel.
Lets say Paul was living today and he had a message for the Americans (such as he did with romans/corithians etc), and he called these Americans his kin. Doe's this mean he was addressing every American? (Americans are whites/blacks/natives/latinos/others) or his kin that he called brothers and sisters according to the flesh. This is how he seperated which group of the Americans his letters pretained to/was sent to.
Christ showed us how to keep all the laws and the prophets so therefore it's never been done away with. Just kept by way of keep 2 commandments which cover a broad scale. (and btw, neighbor in classic greek means "one that's close to you" as in a kin and not distance)
At the end of the day the Holy Scriptures are a legacy of my people past present & future that tells us how our God deals with us, his message for us, our inheritance, and how we are to deal with eachother (other israelites) as a people. this is what Christ was teaching...brotherly (kinsmen love). How to turn the other cheek when your kin israelite does something (meaning 2 wrongs dont make a right, find resolve peacefully), to love our neighbor (kin israelites) as we love ourselves. Love those that hate us (within our kin) and bless those (of our kin) that curse us.
This legacy was not for you edomites to take, tamper with/alter and apply to yourselves in effort to backdoor your way into the Kingdom
2 Esdras 6:9 For Esau is the end of the world, and Jacob is the beginning of it that followeth.
Psa 49:11 Their inward thought [is, that] their houses [shall continue] for ever, [and] their dwelling places to all generations; they call [their] lands after their own names.
Psa 49:13 This their way [is] their folly: yet their posterity approve their sayings. Selah.
Hbr 12:16 Lest there [be] any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright.
Hbr 12:17 For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears. (Esau/Edom all his desendants)
Job 9:24 The earth is given into the hand of the wicked (Esau): he covereth the faces of the judges thereof; if not, where, [and] who [is] he?
Rev 13:9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.
Rev 13:10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that killeth with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the faith of the saints.
