The Official Floyd Mayweather is the best boxer of this era period...

[coop9889]

Oh and coop is trying too hard to troll.

Replying to posts with the same argument takes no effert at all actually

 

[smittysmith]

Thats the same shit niggaz try to say about Jordan.. That he played in a watered down era.. smh.. When we had elite HOF big men in the league. Now the best Big Men in the league have no fuckin post game.. smh..

Their is no true factual information to back that up, however in this particular case there is.

 

[aneed123]

man a lot of these watered down fighters of today would beat the shit out of alot of those slow ass white and mexican brawlers form back in the day.... dont be fooled

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

Lol at niggas speaking on eras like they were around to witness it

It's called research. I guess the Civil War never happened because we weren't alive to witness it.

History is written by the victors....u only know what someone else thought u should know about it....

 

[perspective@100]

Amazing how you cats discredit Floyd every chance available when the fighters you guys support (in this case Manny And JMM) walk around with well known cheaters in their entourage and training camps. Reformed steroid chemist and what not. GTFOH

One thing you can say about Floyd hate him or love him he ain't no cheater...

Lets tally it up,

Peterson -Roids

Berto- Roids

Tarver -Roids

Roy Jones Jr -Roids

Evander Holyfield- Roids

Fernando Vargas- Roids

Richard Hall- Roids

Sugar Shane Mosley- Roids

And the people who supplied these Athletes hang with your favorite boxers today...

If your researching history of boxing look up steroid scandals and what happened with these people supplying the drugs. They still out here doing what they do best. Cheating...

 

[smittysmith]

Shiiieeetttt, if you wanna talk performance enhancement abuse in sports look no further than the NBA. No one wants to open that can of worms tho.

 

[themadlionsfan]

Floyd agreed to all Arums demands 50/50 small ring and 1million per pound proposed random testing with a 14 day cutoff to Manny in 09 .... Arum and Manny said no and fought Clotty..... 50 million for Manny gone and he gets slept in 12..... karma

From what I saw was Floyd making the demands and Manny said he would agree to all of them then never to hear back from Floyd. Then Floyd making accusations saying Manny might have been taking PED's. Now everybody wanna give Floyd credit for dodging the bullet and letting Marquez beat him is sad. I thought we crown the best fighters in the world for beating the best not giving Floyd credit for being the best when Marquez beats Pac-Man

thats not what happened the media fooled a lot of folk. Ive followed this from jump and posted on here all the time. before Floyd fought Shane Mosley and before Manny fought Clotty there were negotiation... Arum threw in 1mil per pound because Floyd didnt go by the rules with Marquez. Floyd agreed to a smaller ring cuz they didnt want him to use his legs in the ring. Floyd agreed to a purse split. in return Floyd gave his own demands of random drug testing.... Manny refused Floyd then amended it to random testing with a 14 day cut off.... They turned it down... Floyd fought Mosley and Manny fought Clotty.... then this year before Floyd went to jail Arum refused the May 5th fight date cuz of his magical stadium being built in Dallas....

all of this is true except the 1 million dollar per pound penalty.....it was 10 MILLION dollars per pound!!!

 

[perspective@100]

Shiiieeetttt, if you wanna talk performance enhancement abuse in sports look no further than the NBA. No one wants to open that can of worms tho.

You think the NBA is bad? Look at the NFL...

How about the Olympics? They have proven test that still fail. The new cutting edge technology is always invented by the cheater then later exposed by the slower steroid police.

Look at Marion Jones. Substantial evidence says even Carl Lewis Juiced.

We all see whats happened with Lance Armstrong.

My personal inquiry would have to be with Flo Jo. If any of you know track then you know what I'm getting at and she was the fliest track female ever may she R.I.P. She ran a damn 10.4 100m dash back in 88, lol...

Sad thing is everyone seems to be ok with it. They loved that Manny and JMM were in their all juiced up going at it.

Floyd said this sh*t ten years ago that roids are a problem in boxing and thats why he is scared to fight certain fighters. Yes "scared"...

But he gets the sh*t end of the stick because people are blood thirsty...

Catch 22 if I ever seen one.

 

[Mrslim1]

As a Floyd fan he has to fight either canelo or Martinez. And as of now I would rather see him fight canelo. I think canelo presents challenges allow I feel that Floyd could over come he would have to be on his a game to do so. Canelo is young strong full 154 fighter. Floyd hasn't has his best performances at 154. I think the size of youth of canelo could make Floyd really dig deep and see the real fighter I believe he is. And in my eyes he can retire. Maybe Floyd is so skilled that no fighter can really challenge him in this era. But for some reason I think canelo can present a few issues for Floyd.

 

[cobbland]

Amazing how you cats discredit Floyd every chance available when the fighters you guys support (in this case Manny And JMM) walk around with well known cheaters in their entourage and training camps. Reformed steroid chemist and what not. GTFOH

One thing you can say about Floyd hate him or love him he ain't no cheater...

Lets tally it up,

Roy Jones Jr -Roids

And the people who supplied these Athletes hang with your favorite boxers today...

If your researching history of boxing look up steroid scandals and what happened with these people supplying the drugs. They still out here doing what they do best. Cheating...

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[buttuh_b]

The era is certainly watered down. They are not as many transcendent super stars like in previous eras where their were multiple guys in every weight class that went on to be HOF calibre fighters.

With that being said, Floyd is without a doubt head and shoulders above the comp of his era.

Fuck does that have to do with Floyd's divisions? Featherweight-middleweight is crazy competitive.

 

[buttuh_b]

As a Floyd fan he has to fight either canelo or Martinez. And as of now I would rather see him fight canelo. I think canelo presents challenges allow I feel that Floyd could over come he would have to be on his a game to do so. Canelo is young strong full 154 fighter. Floyd hasn't has his best performances at 154. I think the size of youth of canelo could make Floyd really dig deep and see the real fighter I believe he is. And in my eyes he can retire. Maybe Floyd is so skilled that no fighter can really challenge him in this era. But for some reason I think canelo can present a few issues for Floyd.

Martinez has a better chance of beating Floyd than Canelo based on style. The ideal fight after Robert Guerrero would be Sergio in September. Could go down as an all time GOAT fight and one of Floyd's toughest, especially in middleweight. This solidifies Floyd's legacy. Top 5 all time no questions asked.

After that, May 2014 he should get his last big payday and fight Canelo and retire. That shit would do numbers. Canelo hasn't fought anyone yet to deserve the Mayweather fight and he still has room for development. He needs to at least fight Trout first.

Sadly, Mayweather vs. Martinez probably won't happen and Canelo won't even fight Trout.

 

[perspective@100]

Canelo has fought no worthy opponents thus Floyd proves nothing by beating him. Martinez has the W.O.A.T fan base of any hispanic boxer with a belt. Floyd is gonna pic Guerrero hands down off wooping Berto Azz just like he picked Ortiz off wooping Berto's azz. Set up for may 4th its easy money

 

[buttuh_b]

We all know Floyd will fight Guerrero on May 4th but the question is his September fight. Golden Boy needs to let Canelo get a couple impressive wins under his belt before they let him lose to Floyd. If they wait just a lil everyone can still eat.

Money wise Sergio doesnt make sense but legacy wise and as a fan of boxing it's no fight I would want to see more.

 

[Mrslim1]

As a Floyd fan he has to fight either canelo or Martinez. And as of now I would rather see him fight canelo. I think canelo presents challenges allow I feel that Floyd could over come he would have to be on his a game to do so. Canelo is young strong full 154 fighter. Floyd hasn't has his best performances at 154. I think the size of youth of canelo could make Floyd really dig deep and see the real fighter I believe he is. And in my eyes he can retire. Maybe Floyd is so skilled that no fighter can really challenge him in this era. But for some reason I think canelo can present a few issues for Floyd.

Martinez has a better chance of beating Floyd than Canelo based on style. The ideal fight after Robert Guerrero would be Sergio in September. Could go down as an all time GOAT fight and one of Floyd's toughest, especially in middleweight. This solidifies Floyd's legacy. Top 5 all time no questions asked.

After that, May 2014 he should get his last big payday and fight Canelo and retire. That shit would do numbers. Canelo hasn't fought anyone yet to deserve the Mayweather fight and he still has room for development. He needs to at least fight Trout first.

Sadly, Mayweather vs. Martinez probably won't happen and Canelo won't even fight Trout.

I think fighting a middleweight is a lot to ask of Floyd even tho I believe he is skilled enough to beat Sergio I just think he may be a Lil to.big for Floyd especially.if they.fight at.middleweight. but regardless Floyd has to fight on of the 2 ( Sergio or canelo )

 

[smittysmith]

The era is certainly watered down. They are not as many transcendent super stars like in previous eras where their were multiple guys in every weight class that went on to be HOF calibre fighters.

With that being said, Floyd is without a doubt head and shoulders above the comp of his era.

Fuck does that have to do with Floyd's divisions? Featherweight-middleweight is crazy competitive.

SMH, while Floyd was that nigga at 130 his resume is devode HOF calibre victories that other greats had. Its not his fault he had to fight in this era, you can only fight the men in front of you but the fact remains its not the level of comp others had to go through.

 

[supaman4321]

What would you have him do build a time machine?

let's not act like he's faced bums within two years of going pro he had his first pro championship fight against Hernandez who hadn't been defeated at that weight before Money.

Knocked Corrales down 5 times and gave him his first loss, Castillo TWICE and he beat him through an injury the first and completely dominated the second.

He damn near killed Gatti. Beat De La Hoya at his comfortable weight same as Cotto. Gave Hatton his first lost and made the same man who made Pacquiao go night night look like an amateur.

You can say you don't like his style I'll give you that others have been flashier, but if we're talking the sweet science, hitting and not getting hit back, then how can you omit Floyd from the greats. He's outclassed champions, beat fighters at their own game, put up some of the most ridiculously one-sided compubox numbers, and fought through injuries and tough opposition.

This must be what it feels like to argue with Skip Bayless

 

[smittysmith]

What would you have him do build a time machine?

let's not act like he's faced bums within two years of going pro he had his first pro championship fight against Hernandez who hadn't been defeated at that weight before Money.

Knocked Corrales down 5 times and gave him his first loss, Castillo TWICE and he beat him through an injury the first and completely dominated the second.

He damn near killed Gatti. Beat De La Hoya at his comfortable weight same as Cotto. Gave Hatton his first lost and made the same man who made Pacquiao go night night look like an amateur.

You can say you don't like his style I'll give you that others have been flashier, but if we're talking the sweet science, hitting and not getting hit back, then how can you omit Floyd from the greats. He's outclassed champions, beat fighters at their own game, put up some of the most ridiculously one-sided compubox numbers, and fought through injuries and tough opposition.

This must be what it feels like to argue with Skip Bayless

Bruh, are you reading. I said the man can only fight the guys in his era and its not his fault that their not as many great fighters to contend with him. I also said hes's easily the best fighter of the era and one of the greats.

My contention is he's being held from the upper, upper, echelon due the lack of HOF comp on his record. His resume is decent but not Top 10 ATG worthy.

 

[Dupac]

the problem with most threads like these is that casual fans think floyd career began with the oscar fight.....

and the worse part about that is that they fail to realize oscar made floyd come up in weight to fight him for the title with NO CATCH WEIGHT.......

also, most casual fans werent' avid readers of boxing media prior to 2008...they never read the article where bob arum called miguel cotto "too green" for floyd back in 2008

they don't know about the dynamics of floyd relationship with bob arum...they have no idea the power bob arum holds in the boxing world... that he built ever single one of histop fighters as the man floyd was "ducking" while never having any intentions of letting his fighters get spoiled by floyd putting hands on them....

people say floyd ducked fighters.....

who??

i'll tell you who...

miguel cotto who was bob's top rank's up an coming star in 2007/2008.....however when the idea of a floyd fight was possible..bob stated that miguel was too green...so when floyd seekd an opponent in ricky hatton.. all of a sudden out of nowhere.. arum accused floyd of ducking cotto....

the claim was utter bullshit, just an attempt to build cotto's name as a top fighter.....so while floyd was taking a break...in 2008 people were running wild with the notion that floyd was ducking cotto....all that ended when cotto got the life beat outta him by antonito margarito....nother top rank fighter...

so now we got antonio margarito as the fighter floyd's supposedly ducking.. the most avoidable fighter in the world.....

the lone champion at 147 floyd didn't fight...

well let's revisit that fight...

floyd was prepared to fight antonio margarito in 2006.. but bob arum wanted floyd to sign a 3 fight contract of only top rank fighters worth 8 million dollars..and absolutely could not seek a fight with oscar de la hoya..floyd laughed because no one knew who margarito was in 2006, and floyd already had a fight on deck with zab judah for the other 3 belts at welter.....and when zab lost to carlos baldomir, he was like fuck it, i'll fight them both..

and these fights weren't contract obligated fights.. they ere one and done deals.. with floyd maximizing his profit......

leading up to the fight with oscar that bob arum said was impossible....

so in floys 3 fights away from top rank, he made a much larger amount than the 8 million proposed to fight margarito in 2006...in fact it was rumored that outta spite he fought baldomir for $8,000,01.00...along with baldy's 2 belts as opposed to margarito's 1 belt...

and of course following all that bullshit... margarito was proven to be a cheater and got molly whopped by shane mosely....

now i could go on to the manny debacle.. but it was nothing more than bob once again trying to build up a fighter by saying his fighter was ducking floyd....

bob built manny's scention into the upper weights by claiming floyd was ducking, when bob never once made and serious attempt to make a fight with floyd.. every time a contract was drawn up, bob refused to accept the terms...calling them ridiculous.. and after floyd chose another opponent and out performed manny, he attempted to make a fight using the old contract....and each time floyd came to bob with new terms, as the old terms expired....and each time bob refused the new terms and tried to hold on o the old ones.. while floyd consistently proved that he can find other opponents that were going to put u bigger and bigger numbers than top ranks promotions.....

finally floyd called manny directly and offereed him $40 million behind bob's back..

bob found out and told manny to tell floyd 50/50 which sounds fair... but was greatly less than floyd's $40 million dollar offer.. which was shown evident by manny getting his ass whooped by marquez for a reported $20-$30 million....

not to mention manny being punished for talking to floyd by losing a "decision" to timmy bradley....

there are no asterisk's on floyd's career... even though i think dude is a step behind where he once was before going to prision.. dude is easily the best fighter of this generation, and a top 5 dead or alive on anyone's list....

niggaz just hate too much to recognize the facts.....

all i speak is the truth

 

[playmaker88]

I aint even read.. but cosign.. bout to read in 10 minutes