The Official Eminem Discussion Thread

[5th Letter]

I didn't misunderstand shit. Your purpose for this thread is another one of those why you hate eminem threads. So you make comparisons like if hip hop is about expression why you hate eminem for expressing himself. It's not that people hate eminem for expressing himself it's just that sonically his music doesn't appeal to those that don't like it, and that is something you can't seem to understand.

 

[Bigavelli]

It's not about liking Eminem jesus christ

I know someone outside the Internet in the real world that isn't a fan of Eminem @ Cain yet this person said 'Sing For The Moment' 'Superman' 'Not Afraid' etc are dope and appreciate the message and what is being said in the Song's

I think if Nas made 'Sing For The Moment' and it reached number 10 on the Chart people on the IC would be lpraising Nas like crazy for making such a deep real Song and it still being a Smash Hit

But with Eminem it's different people don't wanna say ok this a dude outta many in the industry that lie, Rap about shit they never did, Rap about typical things, Rap about things that negativley influence the youth etc yet Eminem makes records about his actual life is always honest yet people on the IC don't wanna give props that's fine but to hate on it???? that's some straight up bitterness

 

[Tha-Realist]

This bitch is STILL at it? smfh.... I'm not a big Em fan, but I don't hate tha dude either. But after seeing some of tha bullshit this bitch says about him I don't even wanna listen to his music.

All you're doing is making your "idol" (or whatever tha fuck you think Em is to you) look bad.

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[Bigavelli]

I didn't misunderstand shit. Your purpose for this thread is another one of those why you hate eminem threads. So you make comparisons like if hip hop is about expression why you hate eminem for expressing himself. It's not that people hate eminem for expressing himself it's just that sonically his music doesn't appeal to those that don't like it, and that is something you can't seem to understand.

Ok now we getting somewhere

Explain further by sonically?

 

[UPTOWN]

Why wouldn't Eminem Write about his daughter, wife and mother? what you expect him to Rap about something he hasn't experienced just to satisfy a few bloggers?

Is Rapping about loving and providing showing how much your care for your daughter means to you a bad thing? do parents wether entertainers/Artists/Actors or just regular people not love their kid's more than anything else?

If Hip Hop is about making Music expressing what you been through wouldn't family life be a huge aspect of anyones life?

rapping is just one 3rd of hip hop. so your whole thread is off

 

[Bigavelli]

This bitch is STILL at it? smfh.... I'm not a big Em fan, but I don't hate tha dude either. But after seeing some of tha bullshit this bitch says about him I don't even wanna listen to his music.

All you're doing is making your "idol" (or whatever tha fuck you think Em is to you) look bad.

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A Stan doesn't critisize any Music from their fave Artist

If i was a Stan i would be praising the Music Em made about rape, killing, incest and over the top shock stuff

If i was a stan i would be saying that's great Music making shock value music but i never lie i critisize when i need to and give praise when due

 

[5th Letter]

Ok now we getting somewhere

Explain further by sonically?

Just like Joe budden music sounds like shit to you because you think his hooks and his beats sucks. Where as someone else may think the opposite. It's about personal tastes no one for the most part is gonna knock someone for speaking on things that's close to their heart.

 

[Bigavelli]

Just like Joe budden music sounds like shit to you because you think his hooks and his beats sucks. Where as someone else may think the opposite. It's about personal tastes no one for the most part is gonna knock someone for speaking on things that's close to their heart.

But then explain why certain posters on here said it's gay when Eminem speaks about what's close to his heart?

Sonically what don't you like in particular? i explained i can't stand Joe Buddens Production, Hook's and Delivery but you haven't explained in partucular what you dislike about Eminem sonically?

 

[5th Letter]

But then explain why certain posters on here said it's gay when Eminem speaks about what's close to his heart?

Sonically what don't you like in particular? i explained i can't stand Joe Buddens Production, Hook's and Delivery but you haven't explained in partucular what you dislike about Eminem sonically?

If they're saying it's gay they are being hyperbolic. As for me I can't stand eminem's whiny voice, his lame ass beats.

 

[The 3mcee]

But then explain why certain posters on here said it's gay when Eminem speaks about what's close to his heart?

Sonically what don't you like in particular? i explained i can't stand Joe Buddens Production, Hook's and Delivery but you haven't explained in partucular what you dislike about Eminem sonically?

I think Jamaica is pointing out the same things that make u diss like Joe Buddens music could damn well be the same thing that makes people dislike Em's. I have a home boy that hates Em's production because to him a lot of it sounds a like.

My problem with Em personally is his fans that try to credit him with doing things no other emcee has done. He isn't recreating the wheel or doing anything to damn groundbreaking with his music. There are boat loads of emcees that have and has rhymed about real ass stuff while making it sound good but it doesn't catch the mainstream appeal because (A) the people who buy records can't relate to there ills and (B) it is way easier to give somebody who looks like you a chance as opposed to somebody who doesn't

 

[Bigavelli]

If they're saying it's gay they are being hyperbolic. As for me I can't stand eminem's whiny voice, his lame ass beats.

Voice thing is a personal preferance to me his voice is something i really like i think he has a voice perfect for Rap but that's my personal view

When you say Beat's what Beat's you talking about? cos the Beat's on The Slim Shady LP, The Marshall Mathers LP, The Eminem Show, Encore etc were straight fire name me a Beat that was not really dope on those Album's?

 

[5th Letter]

His beats on sslp,mmlp,eminem show were good, anything after that has been shit.

 

[The 3mcee]

His beats on sslp,mmlp,eminem show were good, anything after that has been shit.

Those were the last albums I checked for of dude, what a coincidence. LOL

 

[Bigavelli]

I think Jamaica is pointing out the same things that make u diss like Joe Buddens music could damn well be the same thing that makes people dislike Em's. I have a home boy that hates Em's production because to him a lot of it sounds a like.

My problem with Em personally is his fans that try to credit him with doing things no other emcee has done. He isn't recreating the wheel or doing anything to damn groundbreaking with his music. There are boat loads of emcees that have and has rhymed about real ass stuff while making it sound good but it doesn't catch the mainstream appeal because (A) the people who buy records can't relate to there ills and (B) it is way easier to give somebody who looks like you a chance as opposed to somebody who doesn't

What Eminem did was bring the deeper Singles to the mainstream but make them succesful make those real life type Singles get in the top 10 10 or the top 5 or as i said even number 1

Have other Artists had a deep/personal Single that was a succesful Hit? hell yeah but have any other consistantly made deep Singles their whole career which were Smash Hit's? no

What Eminem also did was bring the Singing on Hook's to the mainstream on these deep Song's you had other Artists who made deep Son's spoke about what they been through spoke about what they felt but non that consistantly were Singing on most their Song's like Eminem

Again wether you like the Singing is preferance but look at the Song's and were they were in the Chart how big Hit's they were 'Not Afraid' 'Cleaning Out My Closet' 'Mockingbird' 'Beautiful' etc all very succesful

Were as you right in saying other Artists have covered the same topics Eminem has but have they had the same story and up bringing he did? Nas made Song's about growing up poor but did he have the whole story like Eminem of a drug addict mother, being homeless, being the only minority in a predominantly black hood, growing up with no father etc it's not just what Eminem says but it's the whole story as well of his life

like 2pac is deep but he more deep from a political point of view while Eminem is deep as far as he Writes about everything he directly experienced in his child hood and life 2pac is more of a what i seen what my homie done type of Writer were as Eminem is very autobiographical you learn everything about Eminem's entire life from his Music you learn about his family, his personal day to day struggles etc

 

[Bigavelli]

His beats on sslp,mmlp,eminem show were good, anything after that has been shit.

Yeah cos that is when he was in his prime as a Producer from 2000 - 2005

Those Albums you mentioned are the Album's he done the majority of Production on Co Produced every track on The SSLP, Produced half the tracks on The MMLP and Produced every track on The Eminem Show

That is why i always said Eminem makes his best Music over his Production if you look at the Album's it fit's his style and content perfect i think

Also the Production on The 8 Mile Soundtrack was dope too again Eminem Producing the likes of 'Lose Yourself'

 

[Bigavelli]

Those were the last albums I checked for of dude, what a coincidence. LOL

Yeah they are his best Album's all 3 are classic in my opinion cos i listen to each Album to this day with out skipping any Song at all and enjoy them from start to finish

They just had everything really great Production, great Lyrics, different type of records from the Introperspective and Deep to the funny and animated to the street and hardcore to the political just everything from Lyricism to Catchy Hook's so that's why i think they classics just Album's i bump all the way with out skipping a Song

 

[5th Letter]

Those were the last albums I checked for of dude, what a coincidence. LOL

Shitty music and the revealing of racist tapes turned me off from him.

 

[genocide_cutter]

Shitty music and the revealing of racist tapes turned me off from him.

hater.......

 

[Bigavelli]

It's not about forcing people to like Eminem @ Jamaica logically that makes no sense it doesnt make a difference if a few cats on a blog don't like him cos obviously he so popular and sells so much loved so much so a few bloggers don't make a difference

It's just i don't like the foolishness like Trailor Park excuse when Eminem never even lived in a Trailor and has not Rapped about growing up in a Trailor i respect DatDudeB cos he was honest he said the main factor he can't like Eminem cos he is white i respect genstasia cos she said she not a fan of his Delivery

It's just you make yourself look like a retard and idiotic when you mention things like Trailors when Eminem never even grew up in a Trailor or say oh well i don't like Eminem cos he Rapped about killing his mother which again makes them look dumb cos Eminem never once said he will kill his mother

So i feel these guys who say those fake bullshit things re just ignorant clowns

I also dislike how people always say Eminem Rap's about his mother alot when in reality Eminem has made 2 Song's max about his mother his whole career yet ignore things like Eminem Rapping about growing up in poverty in the hood which he has atleast 6 or so Song's about

It's not about forcing it's just about calling out ignorance and true haters @ Jamaica

 

[The 3mcee]

What Eminem did was bring the deeper Singles to the mainstream but make them succesful make those real life type Singles get in the top 10 10 or the top 5 or as i said even number 1

Have other Artists had a deep/personal Single that was a succesful Hit? hell yeah but have any other consistantly made deep Singles their whole career which were Smash Hit's? no

What Eminem also did was bring the Singing on Hook's to the mainstream on these deep Song's you had other Artists who made deep Son's spoke about what they been through spoke about what they felt but non that consistantly were Singing on most their Song's like Eminem

Again wether you like the Singing is preferance but look at the Song's and were they were in the Chart how big Hit's they were 'Not Afraid' 'Cleaning Out My Closet' 'Mockingbird' 'Beautiful' etc all very succesful

Were as you right in saying other Artists have covered the same topics Eminem has but have they had the same story and up bringing he did? Nas made Song's about growing up poor but did he have the whole story like Eminem of a drug addict mother, being homeless, being the only minority in a predominantly black hood, growing up with no father etc it's not just what Eminem says but it's the whole story as well of his life

like 2pac is deep but he more deep from a political point of view while Eminem is deep as far as he Writes about everything he directly experienced in his child hood and life 2pac is more of a what i seen what my homie done type of Writer were as Eminem is very autobiographical you learn everything about Eminem's entire life from his Music you learn about his family, his personal day to day struggles etc

LOL.

You proved my point 100%! You are the type of fan that makes people hate other artist. You relate to Em just like the demographic with the most expendable outcome and that is a huge reason why he is wildly popular. Em is a great Emcee but he is so popular because he got cosigned by the hottest producer at the time and talked about shit his demographic relates too.

Everybody likes a success story and all that bullshit you typed above is what helps him but it's funny that minority success stories where they help there self never gets as much airplay. WOW Em overcame a lot he had to deal with black people bullying him, he had to earn the respect of black people in a predominately black art form, his parents were on drugs, he had to raise his siblings by himself.

You know what Em's story sound like?!? A typical minority in fucking America! LOL. The same shit Em has been through I'm sure 90% of the emcees who have came before, during and after his run will go through. The only difference is he is a white guy who never tried to come off as being too fucking down with black folks. I mean Em was more like the Beastie Boys than 3rd Base. He talked shit about Pop stars, cracked corny jokes and played the victim role which helped him get even more endeared with the buying public