The Official Eminem Discussion Thread

[OGClarenceBoddicker]

First, i don't know what a 'computer nigga' is, especially in 2011 where everybody is on the computer. But now that i think of it, a 'computer nigga' sounds like someone that is proficient in operating computers and advanced technology, so if i'm right, then thanks for the compliment.

Second, what is that i praise? quality Hip-Hop? in the pic i posted, you can clearly see L.A.X., Paper Trail and Teflon Don, so don't make this a regional thing. Not to mention the countless other artists outside of the Tri-State area that i support e.g. J. Cole and OutKast.

I aint even tryna get into this shit with you cuz you seem like the coolest ny nigga on this forum, and my definition of a computer nigga is a nigga who poppin shit on the computer startin shit wit niggas ova sum petty cuz he dont know what its like in the real world, these niggas talkin bout sum im mad, damn right im mad, niggas talkin crazy to me what imma do, smile.

 

[DMTxTHC]

I aint even tryna get into this shit with you cuz you seem like the coolest ny nigga on this forum, and my definition of a computer nigga is a nigga who poppin shit on the computer startin shit wit niggas ova sum petty cuz he dont know what its like in the real world, these niggas talkin bout sum im mad, damn right im mad, niggas talkin crazy to me what imma do, smile.

Lol, aiight, cool.

 

[onepunch]

lol how imma get mad at a mama joke when u dont even know her or me, i like when old head east coast niggas call me junior.

I'm an old head but not an east coast cat...I'm from the south...i jsut prefer east coast HIP HOP...

 

[OGClarenceBoddicker]

I'm an old head but not an east coast cat...I'm from the south...i jsut prefer east coast HIP HOP...

That's even worse, tryna appease to niggas who hate yo guts, jus cuz you from a different side of the country.

 

[OGClarenceBoddicker]

East coast niggas remind me of racist white folks, I came in this bitch strapped up ready to take em off the throne and ended up saying fuck hip hop em is the king, yall niggas is unknowingly defeating yall self.

 

[new account2]

Saw this the other day......em is nice but.......LOL its rolling stone.......that kills the arguement right there

 

[onepunch]

That's even worse, tryna appease to niggas who hate yo guts, jus cuz you from a different side of the country.

are you retarded or just slow...i said i prefer listening to east coast HIP HOP...thats the shit i grew up on...fuck you talking bout appeasing to some niggas..bitch I'm grown...i don't got to appease to another nigga or get cosings...dummy white boy...read next time before you respond!...

 

[Gangsta Shit]

lol this nigga mad cuz cats is listening to shit from where they dont stay at

how dumb are you nigga?

 

[HipHopFiend91]

lmao at bruno matthers.

 

[DMTxTHC]

lmao at bruno matthers.

Fuck Eminem aka Bruno Mathers aka Slim Pilgrim.

 

[HipHopFiend91]

Fuck Eminem aka Bruno Mathers aka Slim Pilgrim.

nah em alright i don't think hes the best though.

 

[OGClarenceBoddicker]

are you retarded or just slow...i said i prefer listening to east coast HIP HOP...thats the shit i grew up on...fuck you talking bout appeasing to some niggas..bitch I'm grown...i don't got to appease to another nigga or get cosings...dummy white boy...read next time before you respond!...

im both slow and retarded, mama said if i work hard i'll be turnt up next year, yeah im white, may God bless you sir.

 

[OGClarenceBoddicker]

lol this nigga mad cuz cats is listening to shit from where they dont stay at

how dumb are you nigga?

I ain't mad at the man for listening to shit from another region, if that was the case I would be mad at myself, im jus sayin I be seeing alot of southern niggas kissin east coast ass so them niggas will respect they opinion on hip hop, shit is lame.

And to answer your question im very dumb nigga, astronomically.

 

[onepunch]

im both slow and retarded, mama said if i work hard i'll be turnt up next year, yeah im white, may God bless you sir.

and may GOD bless you too..

 

[onepunch]

I ain't mad at the man for listening to shit from another region, if that was the case I would be mad at myself, im jus sayin I be seeing alot of southern niggas kissin east coast ass so them niggas will respect they opinion on hip hop, shit is lame.

And to answer your question im very dumb nigga, astronomically.

to clear things up for you...cats from the south don't be kissing no east coast ass...we just listen to a variety of music....Rakim my favorite emcee, but i lsiten to scarface, ugk, ball & mjg jsut as much as i listen to EPMD, Ice cube, NAS, AZ,...etc...cats down here where I'm from don't care bout where you from, its bout what you spitting...

 

[@My_nameaintearl]

The numbers don't lie. Eminem da GOAT. All praise is due to the White Gawd.

 

[OGClarenceBoddicker]

to clear things up for you...cats from the south don't be kissing no east coast ass...we just listen to a variety of music....Rakim my favorite emcee, but i lsiten to scarface, ugk, ball & mjg jsut as much as i listen to EPMD, Ice cube, NAS, AZ,...etc...cats down here where I'm from don't care bout where you from, its bout what you spitting...

And i'm a 23 year old nigga that's the same fuckin way, west coast and mid-west is the same way, as soon as these east coast niggas learn to do the same hip hop will be in a better place, aint no way a nigga finna tell me Tommy Wright III is garbage if niggas feel that way then it aint him that's the problem it's the listeners problem for hating southern accents.

 

[OGClarenceBoddicker]

I aint gonna go thru 39 pages.... so im gonna ask (assuming this has already been asked...) - Who IS the King of Hiphop then ? Cuz real talk theres really only 2 candidates (3 if u wanna get technical cuz one won the battle) Jay-Z, Eminem AND Nas..... Those 3 are the only candidates. I think Jay has more influence but Em has the numbers, the acclaim & even the influence in diff't ways man. Iuno its hard to say.... real talk tho I think its just cuz he white niggas don't want to let a white man take what they made and be the poster child of it. I wont lie im I sorta feel that way so out of ignorance (not as in not knowing but I mean as in N.I.G.G.A) im gonna run with Hov even tho I hate that nigga. But objectively Eminem might as well be the King of this shit....

Who yall think is the King of Hiphop tho ?

Nas still the king for Illmatic alone, he ain't neva gotta drop anotha album.

 

[bigrizz]

I dont get what em has done to be called king. He is just winning a popularity contest. Youtune views are a horrible meter to judge, as anyone can click a video and watch over and over. He appeals more to whites and they are the majority of the consumers that can afford to buy albums. Black folks bootleg albums so there is a flaw thats not considered. Doesnt make another artist less popular. Everything they ised to make thos conclusion is flawed. If every hiphop fan was able to vote on the subject, I doubt em would win the majority. Em hasnt done anything innovative thay hasnt been done

 

[bootcheese3000]

But that's an accurate assesment

It's so much little to do with him being white image yes but image based on apeealing to females like i said we can't change society in society females exist that find stars good looking and will support them just for that alone it's not just Eminem LL Cool J, Nelly, 2pac etc also benefited from this with Eminem most the females that find him a sex symbol as you put it happen to be white but they don't like him cos he white only

Eminem also appeals to so many different types of fan's you have the fan's that love his heart felt Music and can connect to it, you have fan's that like the Shock Value side even though they more in the minority, you have fan's that like the Singing again females tend to like that sensitive Singing shit that has never been a secret and dudes also like Singing it's not like Eminem be Singing soft RnB i love you to a female kinda thing he Singing about his struggles just like he Rapping about them

Whatever haters on the IC wanna say the fact is The SSLP, The MMLP, The Eminem Show, Recovery are great/classic Album's that so many people around the world listen to today so making Album's as great as those help's too

And then you have the story Eminem had the story being the only white dude growing up in black hoods across Detroit, growing up in poverty, mother being on welfare drug addict, being a young parent trying to provide for his daughter on minimum wage, growing up in section 8 housing, having no father etc when you have a story you express your pain on wax and people can connect to you if you been through shit

nowhere in my quote did i say anything about him being whyte but i'll entertain your weak-ass argument from the top:

for 1 thing this nonsense about people like his singing, REAL HIP-HOP FANS DON'T LISTEN TO RAP MUSIC FOR SINGING. they listen to it for lyricism. i'm starting to think you know NOTHING about hip-hop period from alot of the stuff you say, that you just started listening to it like 5 yrs. ago. this muthafucka CAN'T SING just like alot of rappers so i don't get that point at all. as far as shock value that's the cheapest gimmick in music point blank and he's riding that bandwagon until the wheels fall the fuck off so he's a gimmicky rapper. and don't get me started again on that female demographic again, as aforementioned most women have HORRIBLE taste in music unless they're singers/musicians themselves so the female fans opinion doesn't mean shit.

now this other argument about him being a label owner and producer as well as a rapper isn't nothing new, el-p has done all that even before feminem has. he's a better producer BAR NONE and his roster on def jux is not to be fucked with, to me they seem more of a solid cohesive unit than shady records whose roster looks more like a tax write-off, half the artists suck donkey nuts. so you miss me with that argument as well, feminem can't produce for shit and his label has a weak roster full of inconsistencies when it comes to the artist's success.

oh yeah, this nonsense about him growing up in detroit ghettos as the minority because he's whyte is the biggest crock of all next to your other point that i'll address soon. methinks alot of your info on him comes from that bullshit biopic "8 mile" where he plays himself. i refuse to believe ANYTHING about that movie to be true. i find it hard to see a bunch of niggas following a whyte bwoy like he's jesus and they're his hip-hop apostles. crybaby shady is not the 1st whyte dude to grow up in the 'hood and he won't be the last. the fact that a movie like this was made 4-5 years into his career is suspect as well, muthafucka isn't THAT talented or special to deserve such accolades and treatment. EVERY black person goes through what he went through in amerikkka everyday, why should he get preferential treatment? simple--because he's WHYTE, and if you say otherwise you're either lying to yourself or a complete idiot. he is not special just because of those things and shouldn't deserve special treatment just because he's a whyte bwoy that grew up in the 'hood, that's bullshit. dj house shoes had a cameo in "8 mile" and i'm certain he grew up around alot of poor black people, why isn't he getting all this exposure? he's whyte too.

and how can i forget the same bullshit you keep saying about his music:

"people feel eminem's music because it's deep personal and emotional and his fans can relate to his struggles".

cut the bullshit. 1nce again he's not the ONLY fuckin' emcee to have made music like this and he won't be the last. as far as his fans you do know the majority of them are whyte right? you do know that most if not ALL these whyte folks are from the suburbs right? you do know that THEY NEVER GREW UP IMPOVERISHED IN THE GHETTO/BARRIO OR SPEND ALOT OF TIME SURROUNDED BY BLACKS AND LATINOS RIGHT? how can they relate to ANY struggle like this? they can't. they just see it as a opportunity to pretend to be down and act like "well if he can do it then so can i". blacks and latinos in the ghetto/barrio are trying to get out, NOT stay there. i urge you to read william "upski" wimsatt's "bomb the suburbs" to see why alot of blacks and latinos are so fed up with the exploitation and mockery that whyte folks make of our plight and situations, shit is not a fuckin' amusement park for yuppie whyte trash to go and visit and take pictures posing with the baseheads then go back home to brag about how they went slummin' in the 'hood/barrio. if you wanna hear some REAL uplifting music try Blackalicious:

[video=youtube;vxZ73nhtRc0]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxZ73nhtRc0&feature=related[/video]

R.I.P. to gil-scott heron on the hook.

here's another Blackalicious jawnt. the intro to this--STR8 FYAH! OOOOOOOOOOOO-WEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[video=youtube;e3xKX4zA5jw]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e3xKX4zA5jw[/video]

Blackalicious--The Gift of Gab & Chief Xcel

the gift of gab lost both of his parents at a young age--his dad at 14 and a year later his mother. although he had older siblings to look after him he was still in a state of shock and depression and anger filled his life. eventually he was able to overcome the grief to become one of the dopest and most underrated lyricists in the game. i can't imagine losing 1 parent but BOTH OF THEM? for that this man beats marshmallow mathers plight by a million miles. all that bullshit you stated about his life is NOTHING compared to what the gift of gab went through. when you hear his songs you can feel the inspiration and passion in his words and voice, not some demonic confused psychotic perverted ramblings of some angry whyte kid who can't get over his past. even tupac, his influence, did a song called "dear momma" to pay homage to his mother despite her shortcomings being a drug addict. instead of doing the same this idiot does what? release some trash called "cleaning out my closet" and takes every opportunity in a song to diss his mother. he should be ashamed of himself and should NEVER call himself a tupac fan because that's not what the man stood for. he shouldn't even call himself a man in my opinion. he also needs to stop biting tupac's steez too, we got enough black garbage rappers doing that shit, we don't need some demented whyte bwoy doing it too.

another thing, the gift of gab isn't the ONLY emcee with skillz: joell ortiz, pharoahe monch, black thought and even ELZHI from his own backyard are fierce spitkickers. elzhi can give marshmallow mathers a run for his money on a track and he knows it, that's why he doesn't nor hasn't collabed with him. he knows elzhi will make him look stupid and possible might outshine his ass so he'll just keep doing collabs with wack-ass artists or sign weak-ass rappers to his label (save for joell and yelawolf, budden and royce i'm not really a big fan of) just to make him look good and superior while idiots like you keep yapping about how dope he is and how he slaughtered so-and-so on this beat and how he's the best. from what i posted with the Blackalicious jawnts i demand a recount on those votes. crowning him this bullshit "King of Hip-Hop" shit based on social networks and crap like that only means 1 thing--it was a popularity contest, it had NOTHING to do with his music. and like someone else stated, if i didn't know any better they're taking a shot at jay z and kanye west and trying to make people forget that "Watch The Throne" just dropped recently. Rolling Stone is not slick at all for pulling this bullshit.