The Official Dark Knight Rises Thread

[Mister B.]

Blockbuster's starting off nice. First the Avenger, the AMS, then DKR....with Expenditables 2 somewhere in there.

2012 will be kind to action movies. Took long enough.

 

[rapmastermind]

Michelle Phiffer has the Catwoman Crown so Anne has some big shoes to fill. She killed it in "Batman Returns", sexy but deadly at the same time. Her costume was better also:

 

[focus]

I agree that Michele Phiffer has the Catwoman crown right now...looks and personality wise. But Nolan seems to be going for a more vintage approach on purpose, which is kind of a nice switch up from the character's last two big screen appearances. I dunno why, but I trust his filmaking.

 

[vageneral08]

Blockbuster's starting off nice. First the Avenger, the AMS, then DKR....with Expenditables 2 somewhere in there.

2012 will be kind to action movies. Took long enough.

lol why do you keep mispelling the movie title?

 

[rapmastermind]

I agree that Michele Phiffer has the Catwoman crown right now...looks and personality wise. But Nolan seems to be going for a more vintage approach on purpose, which is kind of a nice switch up from the character's last two big screen appearances. I dunno why, but I trust his filmaking.

True, I caught that and Heath was able to at the very least match Jack when many thought it was impossible so maybe she surprises. But Michelle just killed it, brought so much personality and character to the role:

 

[stoneface]

Everyone knows about people initially opposing Heath Ledger being cast as the Joker in TDK but you can take it back even further to the 89 Batman film. People were protesting against Michael Keaton being cast as Bruce Wayne/Batman and he ended up being the best in that role thus far. Anyone with doubts about the casting in TDKR needs to just wait to see the damn movie before judging. Simple as that.

 

[focus]

Everyone knows about people initially opposing Heath Ledger being cast as the Joker in TDK but you can take it back even further to the 89 Batman film. People were protesting against Michael Keaton being cast as Bruce Wayne/Batman and he ended up being the best in that role thus far. Anyone with doubts about the casting in TDKR needs to just wait to see the damn movie before judging. Simple as that.

Yep. I wasn't gonna take it there, but its not like Christian Bale is the best Batman/Bruce Wayne himself. Keaton still has that crown also....and yet, The Dark Knight is still GOAT Batman movies...but Batman Returns >>> Batman Begins.

In fact, with all this Avengers, Blade, Spidey 2, Iron Man, First Class talk...niggas forgetting about Batman Returns. Its up there with the greats. The first Ninja Turtles movie too.

 

[MAKAVELI25]

I agree that Michele Phiffer has the Catwoman crown right now...looks and personality wise. But Nolan seems to be going for a more vintage approach on purpose, which is kind of a nice switch up from the character's last two big screen appearances. I dunno why, but I trust his filmaking.

True, I caught that and Heath was able to at the very least match Jack when many thought it was impossible so maybe she surprises. But Michelle just killed it, brought so much personality and character to the role:

Heath's Joker SHITS ALL OVER Jack Nicholson's Joker, and not just cuz its the most recent one. Michael Keaton's 1989 performance in Batman is still comparable to Bale's 2008 TDK performance. Jack's peformance didn't really age that well at all.

 

[focus]

Heath's Joker SHITS ALL OVER Jack Nicholson's Joker, and not just cuz its the most recent one. Michael Keaton's 1989 performance in Batman is still comparable to Bale's 2008 TDK performance. Jack's peformance didn't really age that well at all.

I agree.

And yet Heath still doesn't have the best portrayal of Joker. That distinction goes to Mark Hamill and The Animated Series and The DC Animated movies. Yea, I know...apples and oranges....live action vs. animation...but i'm just saying. That is still the best incarnation of Joker....besides the comics themselves.

I wonder what a young Mark Hamill in Heath's makeup with Nolan's direction couldve done.

 

[vageneral08]

Everyone knows about people initially opposing Heath Ledger being cast as the Joker in TDK but you can take it back even further to the 89 Batman film. People were protesting against Michael Keaton being cast as Bruce Wayne/Batman and he ended up being the best in that role thus far. Anyone with doubts about the casting in TDKR needs to just wait to see the damn movie before judging. Simple as that.

Yep. I wasn't gonna take it there, but its not like Christian Bale is the best Batman/Bruce Wayne himself. Keaton still has that crown also....and yet, The Dark Knight is still GOAT Batman movies...but Batman Returns >>> Batman Begins.

In fact, with all this Avengers, Blade, Spidey 2, Iron Man, First Class talk...niggas forgetting about Batman Returns. Its up there with the greats. The first Ninja Turtles movie too.

I'ma put it like this....keaton is the better batman but bale is the better bruce wayne

 

[CracceR]

cosigned this ^

 

[rapmastermind]

Heath's Joker SHITS ALL OVER Jack Nicholson's Joker, and not just cuz its the most recent one. Michael Keaton's 1989 performance in Batman is still comparable to Bale's 2008 TDK performance. Jack's peformance didn't really age that well at all.

Debatable. Jack's Joker was so legendary nobody touched the role for damn near 20 years. Also Keaton's Batman is still the best, most fans agree. Phiffer also again still has the Catwoman Crown. Burton 2 Batman films set the bar 1st and are Legendary. The Creator of Batman himself said Jack's Joker was the closest to his original vision. Heath's Joker was great but LOL @ Shitting over a performance nobody could even dare touch for 2 decades. Before TDK Heath was doing mad interviews talking about Jack and how Legendary his performance is, stop trying to downplay one of the greatest actors in the history of cinema. LOL @ "hasn't aged well", the movie is a Classic. Also, Jack's 1-liners > Heath's.

 

[rapmastermind]

I'ma put it like this....keaton is the better batman but bale is the better bruce wayne

Yes Bale is a really good Wayne but Keaton played the DUEL Personalities the best. Bale's batman voice is was not good, even if Nolan changed it in post-production, it wasn't good. Keaton did both very well which is why He has the crown.

I'd Rate them:

1a The Dark Knight

1b Batman

*Depending on the era you grew up in one is above the other

2. Batman Returns

3. Batman Begins

4. Forever

5. Batman and Robin

I also agree that Mark Hamil Joker is up there with Jack and Heath even though it was animated.

 

[vageneral08]

I'ma put it like this....keaton is the better batman but bale is the better bruce wayne

Yes Bale is a really good Wayne but Keaton played the DUEL Personalities the best. Bale's batman voice is was not good, even if Nolan changed it in post-production, it wasn't good. Keaton did both very well which is why He has the crown.

Right that's why I give the edge to bale on being a slightly better bruce wayne....I hate his voice as batman shit is horrible

 

[earth two superman]

the thing about Bale's voice is that hes trying to replicate Kevin Conroys batman/bruce wayne from Batman TAS. Conroy made it sound so natural. With bale its really forced.

 

[stoneface]

I dont give a fuck what no one says, at the end of the day Jack's Joker > Heath's joker, as great as Heath was.

I'ma put it like this....keaton is the better batman but bale is the better bruce wayne

Disagree to the fullest. Bale was good as Bruce Wayne but not better than Keaton. The way Keaton portrayed him was perfect. Even though he seemed cool and never really openly expressed his personal issues to anyone, you could still somehow tell, just from his demeanor that he was troubled and tortured but just kept it all internal. It was subtle, he didnt even have to say shit. I just think Keaton's performance as Bruce was more skillful than Bale's.

 

[dalyricalbandit]

reason folks aint like Keaton as Bruce back then was supposedly because folks aint think he was handsome enough N/H

 

[IceBergTaylor]

I think Heath's Joker was the better of the two personally

 

[allied]

Heath's Joker SHITS ALL OVER Jack Nicholson's Joker, and not just cuz its the most recent one. Michael Keaton's 1989 performance in Batman is still comparable to Bale's 2008 TDK performance. Jack's peformance didn't really age that well at all.

Spoken like someone who just likes what's fresh. Heath's Joker and Jack's Joker are completely different. Jack's set the bar and Heath took the character in a different direction but maxed it out. I for one like Jack's Joker better to me he came off more like a clown and not like a sociapath. But Heath definitely shut me up as soon as I saw the TDK trailer. As for Batman, I reserve judgement but Bale has not convinced me he is taking the character to the next level.

 

[stoneface]