The official Breakfast Club Interview thread

[manofmorehouse]

He was saying some real shit but his stance on voting is dangerous. Voting matters I don't care what he says.

How so

If voting isn't producing desired results, why keep doing it?

Again, it's how and when u vote that matters. Bernie sanders just came out and said he's losing because poor people don't vote. It's the reason his strategy from the beginning was never going to work. Putting policy aside, he targeted the two groups of people that historically vote in the lowest numbers: young people and poor people.

Ask yourself this: if voting is as much of a facade as u say, why is it that the richest people in the world vote in upwards of 80%?? It's less of them than us but they actually utilize the one tool that we all have at our disposal. That's how u enact change but the vast majority of us would rather complain about shit and only vote in presidential elections, not even presidential primaries

 

[R.D.]

Bruh we voted for Obama...what did it get us

Like others saying in the other thread, why give our votes to people not offering us anything

Why keep offering our votes in exchange for a dream

 

[manofmorehouse]

Bruh we voted for Obama...what did it get us

Like others saying in the other thread, why give our votes to people not offering us anything

Why keep offering our votes in exchange for a dream

We voted for Obama, that's correct but did we vote for the congressmen that have held up bills that could've helped us more?? Congress makes bills. The president is very much at the will of Congress. But congress is at the will of the voters. Obama can only go as far as congress let's him. Sure, he can use executive orders every now and then, but they pretty much had a mandate to not let shit the he proposed get through. We complain about him but place no blame on the obstruction of congressional republicans??

 

[damobb2deep]

Bruh we voted for Obama...what did it get us

Like others saying in the other thread, why give our votes to people not offering us anything

Why keep offering our votes in exchange for a dream

Ive posted things plenty of times on what Obama has done for us... but you niggas dont want to hear that.. you niggas just like to hear yourself bytch.. he hasn't done what YOU wanted him to do either because he cant (not in his power) they wont let him... or its simply implausible to do so..

Yall niggas want a "real nigga" in office huh?

So yall want the black version of Donald Trump right?

Them racist rednecks want that too and you see how the Republican party is being viewed..

 

[R.D.]

Bruh I don't have conversation for you

We've agreed we don't see eye to eye

 

[damobb2deep]

Bruh I don't have conversation for you

We've agreed we don't see eye to eye

You cant say "he hasn't done anything for us" if in fact if you do research he has... you are projecting an opinion as fact..

 

[rapmusic]

Fuck a President... Your states are the ones out here fucking shit up. This is why voting is important. You think these people who are criticizing The North Carolina Governor are going to stay home? You think the LBGT group are thinking that voting won't change anything? Nope! People be worried about the President too much then be driving around their city wondering why all the hoods gone and why you got toll roads and shit. Don't let Tariq lie to you and say voting don't matter. He's saying for President, but some dumb motherfuckers will go on thinking that voting at all don't matter.

 

[jetlifebih]

No troll shit....serious bidness....I got a question....

I feel like Tariq is saying that we don't need to vote until we have a bargaining chip(resources) to pay off a politician to get what is promised....

Now to my understanding....voting is ruled by the majority...if we are the minority....how can we have more votes than the majority in order to win an election unless it's a highly populated black area or area where people of different races agree politically ?

So saying to all black people who are the minority, that it is important to vote, but voting is judged off majority rules , how we as a minority, using a system that favors the majority, win an election unless enough of the majority votes for what the minority votes for?

How can the minority win in a voting system that favors the majority? is my question

 

[EmM HoLLa.]

No troll shit....serious bidness....I got a question....

I feel like Tariq is saying that we don't need to vote until we have a bargaining chip(resources) to pay off a politician to get what is promised....

Now to my understanding....voting is ruled by the majority...if we are the minority....how can we have more votes than the majority in order to win an election unless it's a highly populated black area or area where people of different races agree politically ?

So saying to all black people who are the minority, that it is important to vote, but voting is judged off majority rules , how we as a minority, using a system that favors the majority, win an election unless enough of the majority votes for what the minority votes for?

How can the minority win in a voting system that favors the majority? is my question

The idea is that.. Our votes will add to the other votes that the candidate has.. It can sway an election.. If a politician has a good amount of white votes, latino, asian votes and all he/she needs is the black vote to win the election.. We then become a powerful group..

 

[jetlifebih]

No troll shit....serious bidness....I got a question....

I feel like Tariq is saying that we don't need to vote until we have a bargaining chip(resources) to pay off a politician to get what is promised....

Now to my understanding....voting is ruled by the majority...if we are the minority....how can we have more votes than the majority in order to win an election unless it's a highly populated black area or area where people of different races agree politically ?

So saying to all black people who are the minority, that it is important to vote, but voting is judged off majority rules , how we as a minority, using a system that favors the majority, win an election unless enough of the majority votes for what the minority votes for?

How can the minority win in a voting system that favors the majority? is my question

The idea is that.. Our votes will add to the other votes that the candidate has.. It can sway an election.. If a politician has a good amount of white votes, latino, asian votes and all he/she needs is the black vote to win the election.. We then become a powerful group..

But we have nothing to hold to that person to get what is promised to us for our vote is what I feel like tariq is trying to convey....

Fuck voting for right now until blacks collectively have enough resources to come together and contribute to a campaign with resources that we can expect to be catered to for our contribution rather than being lied to for 4-8 years time and time again

 

[EmM HoLLa.]

No troll shit....serious bidness....I got a question....

I feel like Tariq is saying that we don't need to vote until we have a bargaining chip(resources) to pay off a politician to get what is promised....

Now to my understanding....voting is ruled by the majority...if we are the minority....how can we have more votes than the majority in order to win an election unless it's a highly populated black area or area where people of different races agree politically ?

So saying to all black people who are the minority, that it is important to vote, but voting is judged off majority rules , how we as a minority, using a system that favors the majority, win an election unless enough of the majority votes for what the minority votes for?

How can the minority win in a voting system that favors the majority? is my question

The idea is that.. Our votes will add to the other votes that the candidate has.. It can sway an election.. If a politician has a good amount of white votes, latino, asian votes and all he/she needs is the black vote to win the election.. We then become a powerful group..

But we have nothing to hold to that person to get what is promised to us for our vote is what I feel like tariq is trying to convey....

Fuck voting for right now until blacks collectively have enough resources to come together and contribute to a campaign with resources that we can expect to be catered to for our contribution rather than being lied to for 4-8 years time and time again

I think that is the idea.. You it it on the nail.. We don't vote unless we can hold folks accountable to specific interests as a group..

 

[jetlifebih]

Even at a state level, blacks are the minority, so again unless we add our vote to the general populations and sway, how do we win??

Because when we away with Asians Latinos and others like he said it then becomes "well we are gonna do this for minorites and that for people of color " and blacks get left by the wayside....

And the Asians and Latinos and Arabs get the loans to shit on us in our community amongst other things....

 

[EmM HoLLa.]

Even at a state level, blacks are the minority, so again unless we add our vote to the general populations and sway, how do we win??

Because when we away with Asians Latinos and others like he said it then becomes "well we are gonna do this for minorites and that for people of color " and blacks get left by the wayside....

And the Asians and Latinos and Arabs get the loans to shit on us in our community amongst other things....

I think it's a matter of accountability.. But the first step is figuring out what is important and what we are going to trade our votes for as a group.. Then you go from there.. I think the premise is our vote is useless unless we are voting as a group for a candidate that we can hold accountable to us..

 

[AP21]

i think blacks are the minority is somewhat of a myth

just in louisiana, for bobby jindal's re-election campaign, it was only 30% of the entire state that voted. Black turnout was super low.

I find it hard to believe that Jindal wins the re-election bid if blacks came out to vote

 

[jetlifebih]

No troll shit....serious bidness....I got a question....

I feel like Tariq is saying that we don't need to vote until we have a bargaining chip(resources) to pay off a politician to get what is promised....

Now to my understanding....voting is ruled by the majority...if we are the minority....how can we have more votes than the majority in order to win an election unless it's a highly populated black area or area where people of different races agree politically ?

So saying to all black people who are the minority, that it is important to vote, but voting is judged off majority rules , how we as a minority, using a system that favors the majority, win an election unless enough of the majority votes for what the minority votes for?

How can the minority win in a voting system that favors the majority? is my question

The idea is that.. Our votes will add to the other votes that the candidate has.. It can sway an election.. If a politician has a good amount of white votes, latino, asian votes and all he/she needs is the black vote to win the election.. We then become a powerful group..

But we have nothing to hold to that person to get what is promised to us for our vote is what I feel like tariq is trying to convey....

Fuck voting for right now until blacks collectively have enough resources to come together and contribute to a campaign with resources that we can expect to be catered to for our contribution rather than being lied to for 4-8 years time and time again

I think that is the idea.. You it it on the nail.. We don't vote unless we can hold folks accountable to specific interests as a group..

How do we do that with no resources??

Even if I try to look at it from their perspective....if we talk about some shit and promises are made....I don't really have to come thru A if you ain't bout that shit (repercussions) or B there isnt exchange of goods such as a business deal

So if you don't give me money, and won't fuck me up whether is be physically or socially or financially, what real reason do I have to look out for you? I mean I don't like you anyway(cause you black)

Even if we did exchange resources...we haven't even fought for our ancestors resources, so if we offered a canidate resources, and they buck on us, what are gonna do then?

 

[AP21]

well before we begin to ask for other resources, i think we need to do a better job of managing our own personal resources as individuals, then seek to gather resources as a collective

 

[EmM HoLLa.]

No troll shit....serious bidness....I got a question....

I feel like Tariq is saying that we don't need to vote until we have a bargaining chip(resources) to pay off a politician to get what is promised....

Now to my understanding....voting is ruled by the majority...if we are the minority....how can we have more votes than the majority in order to win an election unless it's a highly populated black area or area where people of different races agree politically ?

So saying to all black people who are the minority, that it is important to vote, but voting is judged off majority rules , how we as a minority, using a system that favors the majority, win an election unless enough of the majority votes for what the minority votes for?

How can the minority win in a voting system that favors the majority? is my question

The idea is that.. Our votes will add to the other votes that the candidate has.. It can sway an election.. If a politician has a good amount of white votes, latino, asian votes and all he/she needs is the black vote to win the election.. We then become a powerful group..

But we have nothing to hold to that person to get what is promised to us for our vote is what I feel like tariq is trying to convey....

Fuck voting for right now until blacks collectively have enough resources to come together and contribute to a campaign with resources that we can expect to be catered to for our contribution rather than being lied to for 4-8 years time and time again

I think that is the idea.. You it it on the nail.. We don't vote unless we can hold folks accountable to specific interests as a group..

How do we do that with no resources??

Even if I try to look at it from their perspective....if we talk about some shit and promises are made....I don't really have to come thru A if you ain't bout that shit (repercussions) or B there isnt exchange of goods such as a business deal

So if you don't give me money, and won't fuck me up whether is be physically or socially or financially, what real reason do I have to look out for you? I mean I don't like you anyway(cause you black)

Even if we did exchange resources...we haven't even fought for our ancestors resources, so if we offered a canidate resources, and they buck on us, what are gonna do then?

All valid questions.. But I aint got the answers kid. Most things are always easier said than done.. I am just acknowledging that I understand what he is trying to do.. It it feasible?.. That's a whole other discussion..

 

[jetlifebih]

Even at a state level, blacks are the minority, so again unless we add our vote to the general populations and sway, how do we win??

Because when we away with Asians Latinos and others like he said it then becomes "well we are gonna do this for minorites and that for people of color " and blacks get left by the wayside....

And the Asians and Latinos and Arabs get the loans to shit on us in our community amongst other things....

I think it's a matter of accountability.. But the first step is figuring out what is important and what we are going to trade our votes for as a group.. Then you go from there.. I think the premise is our vote is useless unless we are voting as a group for a candidate that we can hold accountable to us..

I agree we need one direction for now at least until we get the boot off our neck

Even with that premise how can we hold them accountable?? What are the repercussions for fucking us over?? a

 

[damobb2deep]

No troll shit....serious bidness....I got a question....

I feel like Tariq is saying that we don't need to vote until we have a bargaining chip(resources) to pay off a politician to get what is promised....

Now to my understanding....voting is ruled by the majority...if we are the minority....how can we have more votes than the majority in order to win an election unless it's a highly populated black area or area where people of different races agree politically ?

So saying to all black people who are the minority, that it is important to vote, but voting is judged off majority rules , how we as a minority, using a system that favors the majority, win an election unless enough of the majority votes for what the minority votes for?

How can the minority win in a voting system that favors the majority? is my question

The idea is that.. Our votes will add to the other votes that the candidate has.. It can sway an election.. If a politician has a good amount of white votes, latino, asian votes and all he/she needs is the black vote to win the election.. We then become a powerful group..

But we have nothing to hold to that person to get what is promised to us for our vote is what I feel like tariq is trying to convey....

Fuck voting for right now until blacks collectively have enough resources to come together and contribute to a campaign with resources that we can expect to be catered to for our contribution rather than being lied to for 4-8 years time and time again

I think that is the idea.. You it it on the nail.. We don't vote unless we can hold folks accountable to specific interests as a group..

This makes no sense because if we dont vote at all guess what Hispanic... Asian... white and other demograpics still will and then they will get to decide our fate as a country and community... that could be way worse... also we could not vote at one time.. and to this day they still try hard to keep us from voting.. we would be doing them a favor bruh..

 

[jetlifebih]

i think blacks are the minority is somewhat of a myth

just in louisiana, for bobby jindal's re-election campaign, it was only 30% of the entire state that voted. Black turnout was super low.

I find it hard to believe that Jindal wins the re-election bid if blacks came out to vote

I'm honestly not familiar with La, I wanted to say a few states are majority black but even then I'm not so sure

Even if blacks moved to one state and were the majority....as Tariq mashed pointed, everytime we stabilize and elevate they come fuck it up

We need blackwallstreet and the black panthers to resurrect and unite, to protect our progress