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BlackBerry 10: More Analysts Cut Expectations

BlackBerry is on pace to sell about 300,000 BlackBerry Z10s during the first quarter of 2013. That number is just a fraction of what analysts first predicted, though they remain bearish on BlackBerry's comeback chances.

Canaccord Genuity analyst T. Michael Walkley slashed his forecasts from 1.75 million unit shipments during the first quarter to just 300,000. Walkley cut his estimates, in part, because the device didn't launch until February 1, reducing the time it is available to consumers during the quarter.

The device first went on sale in the U.K. and Canada at the beginning of the month. Initial sales suggested that demand for the device was high, but subsequent word about the limited stock of the Z10 dampened those reports. The Z10 has since launched in a handful of other countries, including Singapore and South Africa. It won't reach U.S. store shelves until mid-March at the earliest.

Walkley isn't bullish on the Z10's U.S. ability to impact Q1 sales. First, it will reach stores too late in the quarter. Second, and worse, he believes supply will be limited as carriers stock the device cautiously. "We anticipate carriers will not build large inventory levels," Walkley told clients in a report. He's not alone.

Pacific Crest analyst James Faucette released his own research about the Z10 to investors. He believes BlackBerry will sell between 275,000 and 325,000 Z10s during the first quarter, which falls in line with Walkley's estimates. Faucette went so far as to suggest that Wall Street hasn't been hard enough on BlackBerry and its new smartphone.

"We believe the Street has gotten ahead of the potential reality for BB10 shipments," wrote Faucette. "There is no line of sight to profitability; we remain sellers of BBRY." Faucette believes BlackBerry will have to triple or quadruple its device shipments in order to sustain profitability.

"We continue to believe the Z10 launch involves relatively small shipment volumes and only moderate sell-through so far in markets which have historically been some of BlackBerry's strongest," continued Faucette. "As a result, investor optimism that the BB10 could reverse the company's trajectory appears to be well overdone at current levels, in our view."

Last, analyst Brian Bear also offered dampened thoughts on BlackBerry 10. "We are getting indications that U.S. carriers are not optimistic about Z10 sell-through, but are instead more hopeful about the keyboard-based Q10," he wrote." The Z10 will precede the Q10 by at least a month. The Q10 is more like a traditional BlackBerry in that it has a physical QWERTY keyboard in addition to the touchscreen.

Perhaps most damningly, Bear said that Apple and Google smartphones "are simply too entrenched in the U.S. market" for BlackBerry to make a comeback beyond an initial run of BlackBerry enthusiasts.

As noted last week, there's more to the story than this initial launch. BlackBerry's comeback hopes will look much clearer by the end of the second quarter, during which the Z10 and Q10 will enjoy wider availability.


But in all fairness the device just launched. who knows overtime maybe it might generate a higher number of sales

 
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Has anybody seen a release date for the Q10? It's time for an upgrade and I'm REALLY tired of all touch screen phones and the Q10 is looking perfect to me but I don't want to have to wait forever for it
 
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supaman4321;5526617 said:
Has anybody seen a release date for the Q10? It's time for an upgrade and I'm REALLY tired of all touch screen phones and the Q10 is looking perfect to me but I don't want to have to wait forever for it

Lol! We don't even know the release date of the Z10 yet. Rumor is late March. Q10 rumored late April sometime. Nothing has been announced yet tho. This US launch is fucking a disaster.
 
I talked to a Tmobile rep last week and he said they would be getting them sometime in March. Didnt ask specifically for the Z10 or Q10 tho
 
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icecoldstew;5527596 said:
I talked to a Tmobile rep last week and he said they would be getting them sometime in March. Didnt ask specifically for the Z10 or Q10 tho

the exact date hasnt been determined, but the galaxy s4 is getting announced mid march so at this point its looking like who will even care when bb10 reaches the us market.

 
qtipp73;5534905 said:
icecoldstew;5527596 said:
I talked to a Tmobile rep last week and he said they would be getting them sometime in March. Didnt ask specifically for the Z10 or Q10 tho

the exact date hasnt been determined, but the galaxy s4 is getting announced mid march so at this point its looking like who will even care when bb10 reaches the us market.

I will
 
icecoldstew;5534912 said:
qtipp73;5534905 said:
icecoldstew;5527596 said:
I talked to a Tmobile rep last week and he said they would be getting them sometime in March. Didnt ask specifically for the Z10 or Q10 tho

the exact date hasnt been determined, but the galaxy s4 is getting announced mid march so at this point its looking like who will even care when bb10 reaches the us market.

I will

Same here. Still patiently waiting. I just Updated and got the new Jailbreak for my iPhone 4S so I guess that will hold me down until these US Carriers get off their ass.
 
Michael_Malice;5534922 said:
icecoldstew;5534912 said:
qtipp73;5534905 said:
icecoldstew;5527596 said:
I talked to a Tmobile rep last week and he said they would be getting them sometime in March. Didnt ask specifically for the Z10 or Q10 tho

the exact date hasnt been determined, but the galaxy s4 is getting announced mid march so at this point its looking like who will even care when bb10 reaches the us market.

I will

Same here. Still patiently waiting. I just Updated and got the new Jailbreak for my iPhone 4S so I guess that will hold me down until these US Carriers get off their ass.

so u two gonna be like the stupid asses that went and copped the palm pre. BB10 is DOA and nothing will change that. NOBODY is dropping an Iphone 5 or high end android for an unproven OS. ask M$ how wp8 adoption rate is going? and they have money to burn so they can hold out for waaaaaaay longer than blackberry
 
qtipp73;5542085 said:
Michael_Malice;5534922 said:
icecoldstew;5534912 said:
qtipp73;5534905 said:
icecoldstew;5527596 said:
I talked to a Tmobile rep last week and he said they would be getting them sometime in March. Didnt ask specifically for the Z10 or Q10 tho

the exact date hasnt been determined, but the galaxy s4 is getting announced mid march so at this point its looking like who will even care when bb10 reaches the us market.

I will

Same here. Still patiently waiting. I just Updated and got the new Jailbreak for my iPhone 4S so I guess that will hold me down until these US Carriers get off their ass.

so u two gonna be like the stupid asses that went and copped the palm pre. BB10 is DOA and nothing will change that. NOBODY is dropping an Iphone 5 or high end android for an unproven OS. ask M$ how wp8 adoption rate is going? and they have money to burn so they can hold out for waaaaaaay longer than blackberry

Palm Pre? Nigga I've had a BB for the last 5-6 years. A new one is coming out that's better than the one I have now and its going to be 4x cheaper than what I paid for what I'm using now. Its a win/win for me.
 
Heard they fixed the battery issues and some of the app bugs with an OTA update...deciding if I'm gonna go with the Z10 or the HTC One if Wind gets it.
 
I'm trying to hold out for the Q10, but I mean if the Galaxy S4 will be out around the same time and at the same price would I be crazy to pass up on it? I'm really tired of waiting for the Q10 I can't believe how they debacled (yea i said it) this US release
 
supaman4321;5576284 said:
I'm trying to hold out for the Q10, but I mean if the Galaxy S4 will be out around the same time and at the same price would I be crazy to pass up on it? I'm really tired of waiting for the Q10 I can't believe how they debacled (yea i said it) this US release

Just being real, the S4 will be lightyears ahead of the Q10 for a hardware perspective just based on early reports. So the only real reason to pick the Q10 would be because you like the OS, but honestly they already have a ton of shit available that mimics everything the BB OS offers. I just don't see it.

The OS looks cool and all, but the hardware of these BB phones is last year level and there is a ridiculously small amount of app support at this point. Those two points along should steer you clear.

 
Michael_Malice;5576990 said:
So I can't preorder because I am a premier customer. AT&T fails again.

WTF?? What do you have to be in order to...pre-order? Platinum-Bawse Status, OG, Triple OG, Customer??? These niggas will do anything to fuck up putting a product in a customers hands.
 
Michael_Malice;5576990 said:
So I can't preorder because I am a premier customer. AT&T fails again.

Didnt even think about this. Imma have to wait for Tmobile to get them anyway, fuck changing carriers.
 
rage;5577032 said:
Michael_Malice;5576990 said:
So I can't preorder because I am a premier customer. AT&T fails again.

WTF?? What do you have to be in order to...pre-order? Platinum-Bawse Status, OG, Triple OG, Customer??? These niggas will do anything to fuck up putting a product in a customers hands.

Yeah this some bullshit. It's not available for Premier or Business customers until 22 Mar. I was just on the phone for 30 minutes with a black faggot trying to get that shit ordered and he finally asked a supervisor. Smh.
 

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