The Official Biggie Vs Jay-Z Thread...

[Kwan Dai]

Defending??? or jsut pointin apout something u dont want to pay attention too, that the RAP game has been bluit on niggas quotin other rappers........Its part of Hiphop..........U probaly didnt even know that Jay sayin BIG lines until that track came out

And I am telling you, you are a Liar. That's not a part of Hip Hop and it's apparent you are just another sheeple who knows jack shit about HIP HOP History and how Biting used to get niggas delt with. If, you were a real student of Hip Hop and not just a knob slobber you'd know that much of the late 70's and 80's Hip Hop deal with the subject of biting and how it was frowned upon.

 

[tri3w]

No thats not true, for me anyways.

As i said, i like jay z. I think hes talented, i enjoy most of his cd's. But im not some jigga warrior stan that will defend him to the end no matter what he does. I dont agree with the fact that he borrowed 100+ bars, it doesnt take anything away from his original stuff your right, but its still a wack thing to do.

Its nto abotu defendin dude, Niggas is trynna get ya too Understand that this is somehting that Beeen in the Game for a Minute...........U wanna Indict Jay, than indict everybody else too, Includin BIG

 

[tri3w]

And I am telling you, you are a Liar. That's not a part of Hip Hop and it's apparent you are just another sheeple who knows jack shit about HIP HOP History and how Biting used to get niggas delt with. If, you were a real student of Hip Hop and not just a knob slobber you'd know that much of the late 70's and 80's Hip Hop deal with the subject of biting and how it was frowned upon.

suuuuuuuuuuuuure..........THey been doin it for the longest, get over it............. and u didnnt answe rhe quesiton lol, did U know that Jay was Usin BIG lines b4???

 

[hnic1978]

And I am telling you, you are a Liar. That's not a part of Hip Hop and it's apparent you are just another sheeple who knows jack shit about HIP HOP History and how Biting used to get niggas delt with. If, you were a real student of Hip Hop and not just a knob slobber you'd know that much of the late 70's and 80's Hip Hop deal with the subject of biting and how it was frowned upon.

Okay so is it bad for Jay doing it or is it bad for EVERYBODY????

 

[Kwan Dai]

suuuuuuuuuuuuure..........THey been doin it for the longest, get over it.............

LMAO!! They? FOH!

 

[Kwan Dai]

Okay so is it bad for Jay doing it or is it bad for EVERYBODY????

I'll let you know off hand you are an idiot. Straight up!!! Anyone who bites makes themselves an immediate suspect. Given the evidence we have on Jayz he is a biter and sucka mc to boot.

 

[tri3w]

LMAO!! They? FOH!

Lol I jsut gave U names, somebody even Posted a Track with other rappers DOin it lol............U r in denial My Simple Minded friend lol,

 

[tri3w]

Okay so is it bad for Jay doing it or is it bad for EVERYBODY????

Basicly its only bad for Jay, since he keeps bringin it back to Jay even though Niggas give him examples of other rappers Doin it lol

 

[hnic1978]

I'll let you know off hand you are an idiot. Straight up!!! Anyone who bites makes themselves an immediate suspect. Given the evidence we have on Jayz he is a biter and sucka mc to boot.

See why you catchin feelings like a bitch, i was askin does your little argument apply to just Jay or does it apply to everybody. Cuz if you dig deep some of you favorite rappers are guilty of this

 

[Kwan Dai]

Lol I jsut gave U names, somebody even Posted a Track with other rappers DOin it lol............U r in denial My Simple Minded friend lol,

First off your list was bullshit and the track posted didn't encompass everyone on your list. You are a cornball homey. Get over it. I'll also remind you again that you are such an idiot you are placing Jayz in a category with average rappers (where he belongs anyways) who have used the same lines and tactics as he has. .

 

[tri3w]

Imma Say it again, If u wanna Come @ Jay, then COme at then Rest of the Rappers in the Game rite now...........everybody is Gulity

 

[Kwan Dai]

See why you catchin feelings like a bitch, i was askin does your little argument apply to just Jay or does it apply to everybody. Cuz if you dig deep some of you favorite rappers are guilty of this

Why are you acting like you can't read? Your question was answered many posts ago homegirl.

 

[tri3w]

First off your list was bullshit and the track posted didn't encompass everyone on your list. You are a cornball homey. Get over it. I'll also remind you again that you are such an idiot you are placing Jayz in a category with average rappers (where he belongs anyways) who have used the same lines and tactics as he has. .

SOmebody is Catching Feelings lol

 

[Kwan Dai]

See why you catchin feelings like a bitch, i was askin does your little argument apply to just Jay or does it apply to everybody. Cuz if you dig deep some of you favorite rappers are guilty of this

Just for Shits and Giggles. Show me where the likes of Rakim, Slick Rick, Grap, KRS-one, Chuck D, EPMD, NAS, Smith and Wesson, BuckShot, Common, Pharoah, Cee-lo, Dre 300k, Scarface, Black thought, Mos Def, Heiroglyphics, Pharcyde, exhibit, RZA, GZA, GHOST, and Rae have bitten 100+ bars from various MC's. And this is my short list.

 

[rapmastermind]

Did u check out the other ones?????

Yes, I heard there are 7 more parts but the person doing it didn't release cause he got emails from labels saying they would ban the youtube for copywrite. So to piss them off he put "10 Parts", they stopped him at 3. Susposedly there is over an hour and a half of Biggie lyrics taking from artist from Rock, Pop, RnB and Hip Hop. Jay Z and Lil Kim are the two worst offenders but there are others. LOL @ Will Smith trying to sneak in that Biggie line from Men in Black:

Biggie - My rap lines are like land mines, One Step Kaboom, Black Suits fill the Room

Will Smith - And then Boom, Black Suits fill the Room

People do in a slick way and swich Big's rhymes around a little to try and make it like theirs.

 

[Kwan Dai]

SOmebody is Catching Feelings lol

Teachers who care must have compassion and feelings for the kids who wear helmets to school.

 

[kingofdetroit]

"Give It To Me" and "Squeeze First" got Big credit in the liner notes of Dynasty because Jay used a whole bar of Big's and made a hook in those songs. That's the biggest reference Jay has ever used from Biggie, everything else were just Biggie one liners, not enough to call it biting, but just enough to know who he's referencing. It takes a certain amount of wording to have to give credit and he had to give Biggie's estate credit for saying

"When the Remy's in the system/

Ain't no tellin' when I fuck 'em

Then I diss 'em/

That's what they be yellin',

I'm a pimp by blood/

Not relation/

Y'all be chase-un/

I replace them, uhh"

You have to get credit for that amount of reference in a song. Everything else Jay has used was a one liner like

"It's hard to yell when the bar-rel's in ya mouth"

"Ya reign on top was shorter than leprechauns"

"Squeeze first ask questions last, that's how most of these so called gangstas pass" (It was used for a hook on "Squeeze First")

"Ain't no other kings of this rap thing, ya kidding?"

"'Cuz I see some ladies tonight that should be rollin' with Jay-Z, Jay-Z"

"Isn't this great, her flight leaves at 8, my flight lands at 9, my game just rewinds"

And ETC. y'all get the point. These little references are not biting and are wayyyy to scarce for someone to give credit

He's big enough to do it, he's that thorough, PLUS HE KNOWS HIS OWN FLOW IS FOOLISH!

Jay-Z KNOWS that y'all know what he's doing, so what does that tell you? He don't give a fuck about you because you broke as hell and he's the shit and can do what he wants, he doesn't try to hide it so how's it biting? You'd have to add EVERY rapper to that equation then, u cannot single one rapper out, I can't think of any rappers that's never used another rappers lines.

 

[Kwan Dai]

Jigga-Warriors are catching feelings because they're avoiding the topic and just using the "If ____ is doing it, why only single out Jay?" defense. Because the topic is about Jay-Z, someone I'm sure you Camel-Jockeys would love to talk about normally but you want to talk about others when the camel is on the hotseat to deflect attention away from him.

I'm not understanding how these people will put Jayz on higher plain then these other rappers but now are using these rappers to prove their point.

 

[kingofdetroit]

Nas said "You ain't even in mi classa"- Big Pun

 

[Kwan Dai]

"Give It To Me" and "Squeeze First" got Big credit in the liner notes of Dynasty because Jay used a whole bar of Big's and made a hook in those songs. That's the biggest reference Jay has ever used from Biggie, everything else were just Biggie one liners, not enough to call it biting, but just enough to know who he's referencing. It takes a certain amount of wording to have to give credit and he had to give Biggie's estate credit for saying

"When the Remy's in the system/
Ain't no tellin' when I fuck 'em
Then I diss 'em/
That's what they be yellin',
I'm a pimp by blood/
Not relation/
Y'all be chase-un/
I replace them, uhh"

You have to get credit for that amount of reference in a song. Everything else Jay has used was a one liner like

"It's hard to yell when the bar-rel's in ya mouth"

"Ya reign on top was shorter than leprechauns"

"Squeeze first ask questions last, that's how most of these so called gangstas pass" (It was used for a hook on "Squeeze First")

"Ain't no other kings of this rap thing, ya kidding?"

"'Cuz I see some ladies tonight that should be rollin' with Jay-Z, Jay-Z"

"Isn't this great, her flight leaves at 8, my flight lands at 9, my game just rewinds"

And ETC. y'all get the point. These little references are not biting and are wayyyy to scarce for someone to give credit

He's big enough to do it, he's that thorough, PLUS HE KNOWS HIS OWN FLOW IS FOOLISH!

Jay-Z KNOWS that y'all know what he's doing, so what does that tell you? He don't give a fuck about you because you broke as hell and he's the shit and can do what he wants, he doesn't try to hide it so how's it biting? You'd have to add EVERY rapper to that equation then, u cannot single one rapper out, I can't think of any rappers that's never used another rappers lines.

Who's used 100+ bars and then claimed themselves as the best ever, alive, Dead, etc etc?