The Official Biggie Vs Jay-Z Thread...

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Kwan Dai;789452 said:
And if, we flew to china would could eat fresh seaweed. What does that have to do with biting? Furthermore speak for yourself, dude is an elementary MC. There is nothing complex about the BS he spits.

aight lol..........I see what this Is, U just dont like the NIgga lol
 
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tri3w;789440 said:
lol

BIG

CAm -

SNoop

PUN

RedMan

WU Tang

Mase

Wayne

Mobb Deep

need i continue???? Its been done all the time,

Cool list..

but uh .. besides Wayne ..

Can you prove that all these artist have 6 minutes worth of bitting?
 
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aneed123;789437 said:
ur trippin. nobody dumb enough to sample a whole song. In my eyes bonnie and Clyde is enough. He damn near bit Bigs whole verse and younger generation fans probably thought those were hot Jay lines he spit without writing. JAY bit every rapper that was hot from Slick Rick-Nas-Tupac-Biggie-Snoop- BG.

Okay I have a question if its such a problem in the rap game with Jay, why have NONE of these Rappers step forth to claim they shit and go at Jay's head?????
 
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the argument isnt whether or not jay z is talented..its whether its ok for him to "borrow" 100+ bars from other rappers...and no every rapper has not bit someone else...if a rapper came on today and started going "H to the izzo" he wouldnt be biting cuz almost EVERYONE knows Jay-z did that..

if a rapper came out and spit somethin like "im a mean person who seems worse and you get flipped like every cuss word on the b side of my clean version" you wouldnt know that it was someone else spit it..so thats biting
 
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Sociopath Tendencies;789464 said:
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Why is Jay-Z getting writer credit for lines he didn't write? Before you ask, you're not supposed to get writer credit just for your voice being used if you didn't actually write what was said.

He used Jay's "VOICE" on the hook thats standard procedure. But i do agree that some of that should BIG since he was the originator though. You gets no arguement out of me on that homie
 
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hnic1978;789500 said:
Okay I have a question if its such a problem in the rap game with Jay, why have NONE of these Rappers step forth to claim they shit and go at Jay's head?????

uh, slick rick was busy tryin to get deported..Nas called him out on it when they were beefing..2pac and biggie are dead so uh..yea...and most of the lines in question are from biggie anyways
 
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genstasia;789473 said:
He bit the lines but he still can make and create his own shit and it's till hot.... Aint like Jay-Z has no talent and decided to bit other ppl shit to make himself sound better.... So therefore he will always be excused for biting... and we in 2010 every rapper has bit somebody else...

You will excuse him for biting. But I aint buying that shit. Homey is a biter always has always will be. And yall need to cut that every rapper has bit somebody else jazz!!. The fact of the matter is, niggas thought Jayz was spitting his own shit, only for it to be brought to light after the fact then, he tried to clean it up. Me personally I never listened to enough of his music to care. Since RD I thought he was just another rapper biting the Mafioso Raekwon, biggie, Nas Shit.
 
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therealist_;789482 said:
Cool list..

but uh .. besides Wayne ..

Can you prove that all these artist have 6 minutes worth of bitting?

[video=youtube;OalfWs8NOLg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OalfWs8NOLg[/video]

Does this answer your question
 
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therealist_;789482 said:
Cool list..

but uh .. besides Wayne ..

Can you prove that all these artist have 6 minutes worth of bitting?

Biting.........*sigh* again with the WOrd...........if u askin If I went and Formulated a Huge track on all the SOngs each rapper has used another rappers Line??? then no, I havent Did that, thats a Waste of time...........WHat u r gonna have to do is Listen to niggas albums and See what im talkin about. it Might night be No 6 mintes, but Rappers have quoted other rappers......
 
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hnic1978;789521 said:
[video=youtube;OalfWs8NOLg]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OalfWs8NOLg[/video]

Does this answer your question

You said GOATS like Big .. GOATS like Snoop . GOATS like Mobb Deep .. Pun ..

And you gave me CAM'RON?

Nah .. it doesnt.

(..but uh .. i'm a Cam fan .. so i' gotta check that out, lol ..)
 
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L3NU;789514 said:
uh, slick rick was busy tryin to get deported..Nas called him out on it when they were beefing..2pac and biggie are dead so uh..yea...and most of the lines in question are from biggie anyways

Or maybe becasue, he really didnt give a Fuck since the THE WHOLE RAP GAME BEEN DOIN IT..........
 
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Sociopath Tendencies;789464 said:
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Why is Jay-Z getting writer credit for lines he didn't write? Before you ask, you're not supposed to get writer credit just for your voice being used if you didn't actually write what was said.

rapmastermind;789232 said:
Also Biggie quoted lines but it was clear he was paying homage cause he said "POPULAR" rap lines that everyone knew. Jay Z be taking Big's obsure lines and using them. Not many people hard that "Keep Your Hands High" cause Tracy Lee album flopped but Jay used that line and it became one of his most popular lines after T.I. sampled it for "Bring Em Out" (T.I. owes Biggie royalties for using those bars in my view from that song, it's Biggie's lines not Jay's).

SMH @ Jay Z getting paid of Biggie's lines. So what it was his voice? He's not the author of the lyrics. Everytime Jay Z quoted a Biggie line he should be given credit. Every Jay Z album after his debut (Which Biggie was actually featured) Jay Z has taken Biggie's line. This new album was no different as his very 1st single "D.O.A." took Biggie lines. On "American Gangstar" he took Biggie lines on "Roc Boys, American Gangstar, Say Hello and Success". SMH @ that T.I. single that went PLATINUM and Biggie got ZERO royalties or credit yet all these young fans thinkin Jay wrote "Bring em out, It's hard to yell when the barrell's in ya mouth". SMH. This is why Jay Z will never be above Biggie on the All Time List. No matter how many records or #1 albums he has, he took way to many Biggie bars to be above him.
 
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therealist_;789533 said:
You said GOATS like Big .. GOATS like Snoop . GOATS like Mobb Deep .. Pun ..

And you gave me CAM'RON?

Nah .. it doesnt.

(..but uh .. i'm a Cam fan .. so i' gotta check that out, lol ..)

He was on your list homie
 
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to the dude postin the video of camron biting, 2 things

1.) Jay z is considered by many the goat, and cam is considered average at best by many..its very different when jay does it then when cam does it (not sayin its any less wack when cam does it)

2.) I could make the argument that cams isnt as bad...because every line that he "bit" was from a song that was played on the radio alot (except for the slick rick line) so i dont think anyone is really thinkin cam originally spit those lines

Jigga on the other hand spitten some obscure lyrics that most people assumed where his until he got exposed
 
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genstasia;789542 said:
Ok so u don't like him we get that... So we are not suppose to like him because u dont like him?

Stay focused? When did I say you are not supposed to like Jayz? Like who ever you choose to like.
 
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tri3w;789555 said:
Or maybe becasue, he really didnt give a Fuck since the THE WHOLE RAP GAME BEEN DOIN IT..........

Gotta Love the Sheep mentality. What you are saying is, Jayz is average and follows the masses? Everyone is, doing it right?
 
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