The Official Biggie Vs Jay-Z Thread...

[innercity99]

Yea u right the song the album and the tour

 

[mike06]

u guys are dumb u dont know how to read rapmastermind is 100% right u guys keep twisting his shit lets be serious jay wasnt that big of a deal in hip hop when biggie was around no1 was checking for him like that of course jay would be successful but he would be no1 near the spot he is now if biggie was around. Everyone was calling biggie king then once he died jay took the crown

that was the question asked and you've answered it as well as many other you prolly deem "dumb"....wtf does where Jay was at when Biggie was alive have to do with anything?.....lil wayne was NOWHERE on anyone's radar(much less his own camp) when he first started and Jay was the biggest thing in rap....and now.....

my whole point is stop relying on hindsight to make your argument and just use some common sense....at the end of the day none of us know what would've happened but looking at what did happen....Jay still would be successful TODAY is BIG was still alive.....

 

[mike06]

I just said Hard Knock Life...cause thats was the song that got the ball rolling for Jay.....but niggas giving credit to Biggie for Jay being successful

true shit....it was bound to happen..niggas act like Jay was Waka Flocka back in the day....lmao

 

[mike06]

Hell if big was alive.....shyne wouldn't have gone to prison and guerella black and rick ross would still be "employees" somewhere

 

[goat334]

and he said yes just not as successful if biggie was around and thats the truth he went straight in2 his spot after biggie died and if u cant c that ur blind

Thats all that needed to be said.....thats all the thread asked for.....didn't need all that extra made-up shit, fueled by someone's hate .....

 

[mike06]

why is it always jay who had to benefit from biggie's death?

cuz he was Big's "sidekick and Nas stays losin.....

 

[5th Letter]

There was a void in hip hop when Big died as people were looking for the next KONY, and many had their chances at the crown, Ma$e, Nas, Puffy, Method Man, but Jay (along with DMX) was the one who took the biggest advantage and filled that certain void Big left. Jay would have been successful regardless, he had that drive and motivation to be on top and Jay is always putting himself around people that can make him successful, hence why he hung around the Bad Boy crew between 96 and 97.

 

[Mdizzle9000]

why is it always jay who had to benefit from biggie's death?

cuz he's the 1 who went the hardest to imitate him and take his spot

 

[a_list]

i think so

 

[InMyLifeTime91]

hell yeah he woulda been successful.. he was on the come-up while b.i.g. was alive..

 

[semi-auto-mato]

cuz he's the 1 who went the hardest to imitate him and take his spot

imitate? u really feel like jay tried to imitate big?

 

[InMyLifeTime91]

imitate? u really feel like jay tried to imitate big?

jus leave it alone bruh nigguhz on this site r ignorant...

 

[usmarin3]

Mase and Puff are the ones who benefitted the most off Biggies death if you ask me, they just couldn't maintain and have longevity (well Mase ). Puff is still around but he is one some other shit.

 

[great l]

cuz he's the 1 who went the hardest to imitate him and take his spot

Brooklyn's Finest and I Love The Dough show that Jay was already on par with Biggie when it came to mic skills. Matter of fact, based on both their debut albums, Jay was slightly ahead of Biggie on the mic. Jay would have been successful regardless of Biggie's death. He always had that drive and the business savvy.

 

[Maalik]

oh ofcourse... even tho i dont like jigga.... smh... u cant deny his success outside of music thats one strong suit u can indefinitely say he had over Big & Pac. I know its unfair to say that but goin by the types of contracts they signed to their respective owners i think its a legitimate contrast lol. The difference w/ jay & big is that Jay founded his own co. & ran it like a business (as opposed to a crew like big n pac was doin) today jigga worth some 150M & according to forbes Rocawear hit a billion in sales & livenation givin Jay a label deal for what hes worth lol (150M).... thats no accident. U cant deny greatness, jay didnt come up under big & wasnt competition to him, his albums still went plat, he was still travelin the world, etc. u cant pigeon-hole Jay's music n say he woulda never blew up if Big was still here, its not like his albums were selling HUGE sales after big died, his early albums barely went plat (shows u tho that he still had an audience of say 900k or so). Jigga's comeup is no fluke, hed still be where he is now if big hadnt of died.... shit knowing that fool the takeover prolly woulda been for big n not nas.

Smartest poster in this thread.....smh @ anyone thinkin Jay wouldve let Big have the crown untested for that long. If Pac Died & Big had lived thru that, Jay wouldve still been successful & it would've been a cold war, so to speak. Not a blatant diss but, I just cant see Jay wanting to say in that shadow. Jay had that drive, the kinda drive that you just hate to lose & eventually they would've butted heads.

 

[Reapmills]

Jay would be exactly where he is, and B.I.G would be signed to Roc Nation because he just like every other MC that was relevant in 96 would be on the decline... i hate when people act like theres no curve in hip-hop and one or two MC's could stave off change... KRS Rakim and LL never died yet hip hop went gangsta without them... and they became pseudo-obsolete... same woulda happened to Big and Pac

 

[bigbadbossup99]

Jay would have made it regardless. However, i can't see him outshining B.I.G for that #1 spot. The reason this theory is so relevant,is because jay offered nothing that Biggie wasnt already offering as an artist. Nas would have did his thing exactly the same, because a nas album is nothing like a biggie album. Meanwhile jay came up to the top by emulating bad boy.

 

[2pacnbiggie]

no he wouldnt have plain and simple

 

[pothead420]

wow some of u niggas in denial badly lol

 

[aneed123]

he wouldnt have been the universal star he is now..... in regions outside of ny/east coast Jay wasnt that big. Big death opened up a big void that he filled.