The Official Biggie Vs Jay-Z Thread...

[MAKAVELI25]

alot of ppl act like dame ain't get rich also because of jay and like he aint get his cut when the split happens

Yeah, but why did it take so long for Jay to actually get on a label? I think he's said himself that nobody was checking for him like that. Dame may have been an asshole, but he was The Roc's asshole

 

[TRILLip Brooks]

i don't understand the logic, jay or big are only sucessfull because of dame and puff. when you buy a biggie album, you didn't buy it because puff. it wasn't like dame dash was making jayz music. it starts with the music first

 

[dalyricalbandit]

yeah, but why did it take so long for jay to actually get on a label? I think he's said himself that nobody was checking for him like that. Dame may have been an asshole, but he was the roc's asshole

again im not saying dame aint help jay, all im saying is when they jay was making money dame was also, when jay got his cut of roc-a-fella when they sold it dame also got his cut so what the issuse with jay going his way and dame goin his?

 

[Fazeem_Blackall]

1 thing that I have learned is that Kats from Harlem make moves in the industry and make or break a rapper...

 

[Disciplined InSight]

again im not saying dame aint help jay, all im saying is when they jay was making money dame was also, when jay got his cut of roc-a-fella when they sold it dame also got his cut so what the issuse with jay going his way and dame goin his?

The issue is: Outside influences: The Jew (Lyor Cohen) influencing/persuading/brainwashing Jay...i.e. letting the white man come in between a partnership and change the facet of many careers.

Funny thing about it: We've seen this with Eazy-E, Jerry Heller and N.W.A., except in this Jay and Dame were on top of their game to make sure they didn't get screwed over..

 

[geechee slim]

Somehow Sean Jean continued to make Biggie money, even after his death.

Dame is no longer with The Roc.

 

[Elzo69Renaissance]

Dame is a rider tho i almost feel bad for Kevin Lyles in that clip

 

[blackrain]

Dame was the one that gave Kanye a chance though....if it wasn't for Dame introducing 'Ye Jay's Blueprint album probably wouldn't gotten as big.

Dame's ONLY reason for signing Kanye was to use his beats to try and put out a ROC compilation album and he was going to let Kanye rap on a couple tracks just to shut him up....Ye has said plenty of times that's why he had to pay for the "Through The Wire" video on his own, because nobody at Rocafella, Dame included, took him seriously as a rapper

 

[c.b.b.]

Funny thing about it..Lyor Cohen doesn't give a damn about Jay or Dame...or Hip Hop for that matter.

lol, shady Jewish mofo

I'd say Puff definitely did more for Puff than Dame for Jay.

Puff was the one who made the decision to use Juicy as the first single off of Ready To Die when Big wanted to use "Machine Gun Funk"

Puff seemed to somewhat mold Big and Jay Z seemed to have stepped his own lyrical game up.

Jay Z went from rapping like Das Efx & Fu Schnickens to his own style on his own.

 

[-Vincenzo-]

I heard motherfuckers saying they made Hov. Made me say, "Ok so, make another Hov"

 

[Disciplined InSight]

lol, shady Jewish mofo

I'd say Puff definitely did more for Puff than Dame for Jay.

Puff was the one who made the decision to use Juicy as the first single off of Ready To Die when Big wanted to use "Machine Gun Funk"

Puff seemed to somewhat mold Big and Jay Z seemed to have stepped his own lyrical game up.

Jay Z went from rapping like Das Efx & Fu Schnickens to his own style on his own.

After hearing Nas.....

 

[Mumo X]

After hearing Nas.....

tabernacle.....

 

[nkflier23]

who you believe is the better MC?

LOL comparing Biggie at 24 to Jay at 24 is unfair so put Blueprint Jay vs LAD Biggie, who is the better MC?

I'm rollin wit

Biggie was younger than Jay and still got in the niggas ass relentlessly on Brooklyn's Finest and I Love the Dough

 

[nkflier23]

bump

noone got an input?

 

[blackstarr]

Biggie.....shit aint even close!!!

 

[Mrslim1]

Biggie.....shit aint even close!!!

Pound for pound I'm the best to ever come around here

Excluding nobody - Jay-Z

 

[GSonII]

Both severely overrated

 

[nkflier23]

Both severely overrated

if anything Biggie is UNDERRATED since people have the nerve to compare him to an average MC like Tupac

 

[6ft5]

I'm going with Biggie I enjoy both his albums more then any two Jayz albums that's not taking anything away from Jayz, just enjoyed Bigs music more...

 

[blackstarr]

if anything Biggie is UNDERRATED since people have the nerve to compare him to an average MC like Tupac

Lol i see u still mad that Pac is gettin all the love smh hate on playa hate on