the official ask lostsamuraisotaku a question about the quran thread

[bambu]

Even so....Cannabis is not included in that classification..... and just because your prophet included all intoxicants does not change the fact that khamr is fermented grapes,wine....

anything that covers the head mind from allah is HARAM !!!

I understand your prophets understanding of haram....

The debate is about the inclusion of cannabis as Khamr...

Even so....Cannabis is not included in that classification..... and just because your prophet included all intoxicants does not change the fact that khamr is fermented grapes,wine....

brother i just showed you khamr doesent mean fermented grapes it is 'the thing which covers the head/mind not just strong drink

And I showed you that it does mean fermented grapes...

^^^ Thanks for defining Khimaar...

However....

Khamr (Arab., ‘fermented drink, wine’). Intoxicants forbidden (haram) in Islam. In Qurʾān 5. 90–1/93–4, wine is linked with gambling and divination with arrows as an abominable creation of Satan. Khamr was extended by Muḥammad to include every intoxicant (not just wine), and trading in khamr is forbidden, as is its exchange as a gift. If it was proved that tobacco is always harmful, it would be prohibited; and many Muslims already regard it as in that category. In contrast, 47. 15/16 states that in the Garden are ‘rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink’. But in the Garden, those who are safe are beyond being diverted from their adoration of God. See also ALCOHOL; OMAR KHAYYAM.
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O101-Khamr.html

Regardless... it has little to do with cannabis in Islam

can you read arabic brother? i can where did you study arabic ?

No....However, I have mastered English....

 

[lostsamuraisotaku]

1:33-2:09 "every thing that intoxicates takes the place of alcohol even if you sniff gasoline and it makes you high it is haram "

 

[bambu]

^^^^ Including cannabis as an "intoxicant" is nonsensical

 

[lostsamuraisotaku]

^^^^ Including cannabis as an "intoxicant" is nonsensical

brother it is intoxicant and you know it

 

[lostsamuraisotaku]

however i am not wahabi i am sufi

"Out beyond ideas of wrongdoing and rightdoing, there is a field. I'll meet you there. When the soul lies down in that grass, the world is too full to talk about". - rumi radi allahu anhu

 

[bambu]

^^^^ Including cannabis as an "intoxicant" is nonsensical

brother it is intoxicant and you know it

^^^^.... Really???

An intoxicant refers to something toxic or poisonous when ingested by humans.

You defined alcohol and gasoline......

However, you and I both know that cannabis does not fit in this category....

 

[lostsamuraisotaku]

the wisdom of the drunken fist

 

[bambu]

^^^^ Including cannabis as an "intoxicant" is nonsensical

brother it is intoxicant and you know it

^^^^.... Really???

An intoxicant refers to something toxic or poisonous when ingested by humans.

You defined alcohol and gasoline......

However, you and I both know that cannabis does not fit in this category....

Furthermore explain that cannabis is an intoxicant to the cannabinoid receptors throughout your body...

 

[lostsamuraisotaku]

^^^^ Including cannabis as an "intoxicant" is nonsensical

brother it is intoxicant and you know it

^^^^.... Really???

An intoxicant refers to something toxic or poisonous when ingested by humans.

You defined alcohol and gasoline......

However, you and I both know that cannabis does not fit in this category....

Furthermore explain that cannabis is an intoxicant to the cannabinoid receptors throughout your body...

i am dr (man is god so its his birth right to create ) however most strands are hybrid and in a unnatural state , can you determine whether or not what your smoking is organic? has it been sprayed ect , if so it is makrooh

 

[lostsamuraisotaku]

if your getting stoned to be azawajal (everything is allah including plants even jinn ) it is halal if your smoking to go do haram it is despised and allah knows your heart insha this helps

 

[lostsamuraisotaku]

I AM NOT AGAINST PLANT WORSHIP OR JINN

 

[lostsamuraisotaku]

EVEN QURAN SAYS THERE ARE MUSLIM JINN;S

 

[bambu]

Nice diversion^^^^^

However, the debate is about the incorrect classification of cannabis as Khamr...

 

[lostsamuraisotaku]

yes we do not Zazen. to be closer to allaah we Zazen. to become allaah insha this helps

 

[lostsamuraisotaku]

Nice diversion^^^^^

However, the debate is about the incorrect classification of cannabis as Khamr...

show me ahad (one) hadith or verse from quraan that exalts your premise

 

[bambu]

^^^ Thanks for defining Khimaar...

However....

Khamr (Arab., ‘fermented drink, wine’). Intoxicants forbidden (haram) in Islam. In Qurʾān 5. 90–1/93–4, wine is linked with gambling and divination with arrows as an abominable creation of Satan. Khamr was extended by Muḥammad to include every intoxicant (not just wine), and trading in khamr is forbidden, as is its exchange as a gift. If it was proved that tobacco is always harmful, it would be prohibited; and many Muslims already regard it as in that category. In contrast, 47. 15/16 states that in the Garden are ‘rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink’. But in the Garden, those who are safe are beyond being diverted from their adoration of God. See also ALCOHOL; OMAR KHAYYAM.
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O101-Khamr.html

 

[lostsamuraisotaku]

^^^ Thanks for defining Khimaar...

However....

Khamr (Arab., ‘fermented drink, wine’). Intoxicants forbidden (haram) in Islam. In Qurʾān 5. 90–1/93–4, wine is linked with gambling and divination with arrows as an abominable creation of Satan. Khamr was extended by Muḥammad to include every intoxicant (not just wine), and trading in khamr is forbidden, as is its exchange as a gift. If it was proved that tobacco is always harmful, it would be prohibited; and many Muslims already regard it as in that category. In contrast, 47. 15/16 states that in the Garden are ‘rivers of wine, a joy to those who drink’. But in the Garden, those who are safe are beyond being diverted from their adoration of God. See also ALCOHOL; OMAR KHAYYAM.
http://www.encyclopedia.com/doc/1O101-Khamr.html

the deen of islam is la ilaha il allah muhammadan rasulalaah

you know more of quraan than rasul allah ? la samah allah !!!

 

[lostsamuraisotaku]

rasul alaah says khamr is all intoxicant but you should know that that is not the quran of muhammad its quran of uthman the sahaba

 

[bambu]

Look ..... I asked a question and you made preposterous accusations regarding cannabis.....

1. Prove that cannabis is an intoxicant

2. Prove that cannabis is classified as Khamr

You can do neither sir..... do not waste your time!!!

 

[lostsamuraisotaku]

Look ..... I asked a question and you made preposterous accusations regarding cannabis.....

1. Prove that cannabis is an intoxicant

2. Prove that cannabis is classified as Khamr

You can do neither sir..... do not waste your time!!!

it is intoxicant according to quran and sunnah

however habib anee (i) do not follow that quran nor the sunnah of wahabi and persians