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Tommy bilfiger;c-9686186 said:bless the child;c-9686130 said:Breezy_Kilroy;c-9686060 said:bless the child;c-9686003 said:Breezy_Kilroy;c-9685640 said:bless the child;c-9685621 said:Ghostdenithegawd;c-9685620 said:bless the child;c-9685615 said:Remember when niggaz was saying Steph was the best player in the league? Lol...I remember niggaz had a poll and all lol...a lot of you dumb niggaz voted that he was. I told niggaz he works in that system because of all the talent around him, and the shit was so sensitive that if you take one piece out, he ain't gonna be the same....well lol
Considering the shots Steph takes and makes this makes 0 sense at all
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What you just said makes 0 sense at all.
Gotta agree with Ghost on this one. There's no "system" that would allow Steph to make those shots.
Last year he avg 30pts on 50% from the floor and 45% from 3 while attempting 11 3s a game. There's no system that got him to be that efficient. There's no system that could make anyone that good.
For one, it's never been done before just based on sheer volume.
The rate at which he took 3s off the dribble, which is probably the most inefficient shot you can take, and yet he still shot 45% for a season is crazy. No one has ever shot that well taking those types of shots. It would be damn near impossible to replicate that season again.
What you're doing is taking a small sample size and running with it. This is the first time he's shot the 3 below 42% (39% is still pretty good).
Kerr wasn't always this nigga coach so it can't possibly be a "system". The nigga is still avg 25 per on 46%. That's a bad season now?
Besides, systems aren't for great players. They're for avg players to thrive. Someone like Roy Hibbert is a system player not Steph, not Kawhi, not Kevin Love or any other player that got thrown in with that dumb shit.
How is there no system that would allow him to make those shots? He plays in that system. You niggaz are trying to argue a point I wasn't even trying to make. Nobody is arguing that he's not a great three point shooter, and nobody is arguing that hes not capable of making threes at a high rate. Im saying the ease in which he is able to get those threes is because of the system he plays in. In another system, with less talent around him, I guarantee you if he tried to take the same volume of shots he would not shoot that high of a percentage, simply because alot of those open opportunities wouldn't be available to him.
He's in a system that allows him the freedom to jack up threes freely, which for the most part come uncontested. Why? Because he has the second best three point shooter playing with him. He has role players that are/were capable of hitting threes at a high rate, and he doesn't have to be the primary playmaker. That afforded him a lot more freedom than he would playing with lesser talent.
You had cats claiming he was be best player in the league because of those same numbers you talking, and I was saying their inflated because of the amount of opportunities he was able to get open threes, and the volume of possessions they got as a team. They averaged 103 possesions per game last season. It's no surprise that with less talent around him all of sudden his numbers dropped. Its because with less scoring threats on the floor, defenses can load their defenses up on him, and a lot more of his shots are contested.
Last season you had niggaz in here claiming that on a worse team he would dominate even more, and that was just laughable. All that magic was by being able to shoot the three. Put him on a worse team, hes getting double teamed with out consequence, and his ability to even shoot those threes goes down.
The nigga made some crazy ass threes last year, no doubt about it. But let you niggaz tell it he was knocking down five 35 foot, off the dribble, fadeway, threes per game last year lol.
No I didn't. You just can't separate acknowledging greatness from "dick riding" as you would call it. I just call out bs when I see it.
I disagree, Steph IS the system. Steph rarely gets plays called for him. They use a motion offense, read and react. He would take any shot he wanted because he would go and get it. What you're saying you could argue for any great player but it doesn't make sense. Greatness breeds greatness and everyone feeds off each other.
For instance, you could argue LeBron is a "system" player. He plays best as the primary ball handler, surrounded by shooters to create lanes to the rim and open man. LeBron IS that system. They wouldn't thrive without his ability to score, collapse the defense and make plays. The same for Steph. GS is best when Steph is playing at a high level.
It is up to a coach to get the most of his players and their abilities. So yes you're right. Steve Kerr has put Steph in a great position to be successful. If that's a system then so be it. But when you say system you're using it to undermine a players ability. I disagree with that.
Oh and this is what I said regarding the best player.
Breezy_Kilroy;c-8500469 said:LeBron is the best player still but right now Steph is playing the best basketball. Dude is unguardable.
Nowhere close to being a uninamous mvp, much less the best player in the league like some of you niggaz was claiming. You might not have been one, but alot of niggaz in here were.
You were one of them
The hell I was nigga, I always had Bron as the best player, but admitted that Steph was having the best season of all players. There's a difference.