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http://espn.go.com/nba/story/_/id/7316232/phoenix-suns-cut-vince-carter-lockout-ends
Sources: Suns to waive Vince Carter
By Marc Stein and Chris Broussard
ESPN.com
Vince Carter isn't a free agent yet, but sources close to the situation say the eight-time All-Star will be thrust onto the open market shortly after the end of the lockout.
Based on an amendment in his contract obtained by ESPN.com, Carter must be waived by the Phoenix Suns within 72 hours of the official start of free agency or his $18 million salary for the 2011-12 season becomes fully guaranteed.
The Suns, sources said, have already decided to waive Carter within that window.
The Suns and Carter amended the contract in June to delay the guaranteed-salary date in Carter's final contract year until after the lockout ended. Waiving Carter inside the first 72 hours after the league's schedule start of free agency Friday means that Phoenix would only have to pay $4 million to Carter and likely ensure that the Suns avoid luxury-tax territory this season even after trying to complete the re-signing of Grant Hill and moves with other potential free agents.
The Suns' plan, sources said, is to bring back Hill if possible and make a playoff run this season, then proceed to the summer of 2012 armed with salary-cap space to make major upgrades to the roster.
Sources said the Suns have yet to receive any indication from star guard Steve Nash that he wants to be dealt to a contender, which is why management clings to the hope that the two-time MVP -- who is also headed for free agency in July 2012 -- will retire a Sun.
Carter landed in Phoenix in December 2010 when his hometown Orlando Magic dealt him to the Suns with Marcin Gortat, Mickael Pietrus, $3 million and a 2011 first-round draft pick in exchange for Hedo Turkoglu, Jason Richardson and Earl Clark. A month later, Carter became the 37th player in league history to reach the 20,000-point plateau, but it has long been assumed around the league that Phoenix wanted him in the deal purely for the payroll relief Carter's contract affords.
Chicago, Miami and San Antonio are expected to be among the teams interested in signing Carter, 34, once he clears waivers and becomes an unrestricted free agent.
Marc Stein is a senior NBA writer for ESPN.com. Chris Broussard is a senior writer for ESPN The Magazine.
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peagle05;3838245 said:probably stuckey,gordon (if they get rid of rip), tayshaun, villanueva and monroe....still aint shit to look forward to lol
tayshaun might leave too tho. there r teams in the market for him.
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Datdude87;3839445 said:
damn homie. in high school u was the man homie. wtf happened 2 u?
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dalyricalbandit
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Vince Carter may soon find himself on the open market.
The multiple-time All-Star was traded mid-season from the Orlando Magic to the Phoenix Suns. He had a disappointing end to his season in which he finished averaging a career low 14.0 points per game. Now, ESPN reports that the Phoenix Suns will cut Vince Carter once the lockout officially ends. The reason for the cut is simple: Vince Carter's $18 million salary becomes fully guaranteed once the season starts.
The Suns, who are in no shape to compete for an NBA championship, are looking to shed as much salary as possible. Their own free-agents such as Grant Hill have expressed interest in resigning with the team, and so the Suns need the money to sign him. It is unclear whether or not Suns veteran All-Star Steve Nash wants to stay with a team that is clearly heading in a rebuilding process. Either way, the Suns needed to shed Carter's high salary and will do so immediately post-lockout.
Carter will become a free-agent and will likely draw some major interest from teams looking for scoring at the guard position. The Chicago Bulls could be a clear suitor for Carter. Unlike his cousin, Tracy McGrady, Vince Carter can still be productive and put up points in bunches. The questions arise on the defensive end and whether he'll put as much effort as Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau wants him to.
The multiple-time All-Star was traded mid-season from the Orlando Magic to the Phoenix Suns. He had a disappointing end to his season in which he finished averaging a career low 14.0 points per game. Now, ESPN reports that the Phoenix Suns will cut Vince Carter once the lockout officially ends. The reason for the cut is simple: Vince Carter's $18 million salary becomes fully guaranteed once the season starts.
The Suns, who are in no shape to compete for an NBA championship, are looking to shed as much salary as possible. Their own free-agents such as Grant Hill have expressed interest in resigning with the team, and so the Suns need the money to sign him. It is unclear whether or not Suns veteran All-Star Steve Nash wants to stay with a team that is clearly heading in a rebuilding process. Either way, the Suns needed to shed Carter's high salary and will do so immediately post-lockout.
Carter will become a free-agent and will likely draw some major interest from teams looking for scoring at the guard position. The Chicago Bulls could be a clear suitor for Carter. Unlike his cousin, Tracy McGrady, Vince Carter can still be productive and put up points in bunches. The questions arise on the defensive end and whether he'll put as much effort as Bulls coach Tom Thibodeau wants him to.
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one_manshow
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Chandler gonna get paid from one of these teams that have money and get injured..
Mavs won't be the same without him he contributed a lot on defense for them...
Next fifteen days is gonna be interesting to see where all these free agents go.
Mavs won't be the same without him he contributed a lot on defense for them...
Next fifteen days is gonna be interesting to see where all these free agents go.
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EmM HoLLa.;3842934 said:Free Agency officially opens up today... We will see who is going where.. And what the teams will be looking like for the start of the season.. Let the games OFFICIALLY begin!
but i thought they could only talk but no agreements cant be made in any fashion?...who am i kidding, u kno all deez niggas is breakin rules left and right. unless the league got cameras and microphones everywhere...deals will b made under the table that wont b officially announced until friday.
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EmM HoLLa.;3842975 said:Nah they started talkin to them last wednesday.. Starting today they can make deals. So you will start to hear people signing today...
oh...well shit...let the games begin then lol
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blu197;3843266 said:My nigga VC goin to Knicks or bulls...the knicks are hella weak at the 2 even worse than the bulls
dog...if vince goes to NY...they'll have 3 of the worst defenders in the league lol. defense is effort...and very rarely have him, melo or amare focused on D lol
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blu197;3843266 said:My nigga VC goin to Knicks or bulls...the knicks are hella weak at the 2 even worse than the bulls
U dont like Landry Fields? I think dude is solid I would take him ova Bogans anyday of the week he's only a rookie I see him getting better this year. If im the Bulls I dont want washedup VC or his crippled ass cousin T-Mac. Or any other washed up superstar with abbreviations. But if I had 2 chose of course Vince he still has a lil left in the tank. I hope the Bulls go after Butler, Affalao, Richardson somebody that has ligaments in their knees
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playmaker88
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6 years ago Vince would be a huge piece to a team.. .. shit maybe 8 years ago.. He had a habit for playing good every other year after a coupel seasons with the Nets shit at one point.. after reddick found his groove in the league he was a bigger contributing factor to Orlando than VC was.. I wanna see where VC's mental is at
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dalyricalbandit
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[size=+4]NBA Free Agents: Jason Richardson Top Shooting Guard On Open Market[/size]
Jason Richardson is the top free agent shooting guard in the NBA this season. He regressed a bit with the Orlando Magic this past season, but the veteran still has what it takes to play a vital role on a good team.
Jason Richardson is an unrestricted free agent this season, and while the Orlando Magic have sent signals that make it seem like they would like to re-sign the veteran shooting guard, anything is possible during the lockout-shortened offseason. Richardson is now on the wrong side of 30, but he's still able to put the ball in the basket.
Richardson might not be the best shooting guard in the NBA, but the Orlando Magic swingman is the best shooting guard that isn't restricted on the market today. That ranking, by the way, is courtesy of Tom Ziller from his post featuring the top NBA free agents.
he Bulls have indicated that they are interested in signing Richardson, too, but it's unclear exactly what they're willing to pay to upgrade their wing positions. If they're willing to overlook some of Richardson's deficiencies, he might be the answer to pushing the Bulls over the hump once and for all.
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dalyricalbandit
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..................[size=+4]Warriors eye Tyson Chandler[/size]
Dallas Mavericks free agent Tyson Chandler will meet face-to-face this week with officials from the Golden State Warriors, Houston Rockets and New Jersey Nets, according to sources close to the situation.
Negotiations with the Mavericks have stalled, prompting Chandler to tell ESPN.com on Wednesday night: "I really think I'm going to be on a new team come training camp."
With little movement in the talks in the days since, sources say that Golden State, Houston and New Jersey have emerged as the most serious suitors for Chandler, who is widely credited with changing the defensive culture in Dallas and combining with Mavs mainstay Dirk Nowitzki to spark the franchise to its first-ever championship.
The Rockets and Nets also remain at the forefront of the chase for Denver Nuggets free agent Nene -- along with the Indiana Pacers and Nuggets themselves -- and are likely to meet with the Brazilian big man as well in the coming week. Sources stressed that the Mavericks, meanwhile, continue to keep an open dialogue with Chandler in hopes that a deal can still be struck.
The NBA notified teams over the weekend that direct contact between team executives and free agents is permissible as of Monday at 10 a.m. ET. Free agency is scheduled to begin in earnest Friday, which the NBA has announced as the first day teams will be allowed to make signings and trades, pending ratification Thursday of the tentative labor agreement between owners and players struck Nov. 26.
Sources said Sunday that the teams involved are most likely to make visits to Chandler as opposed to the 29-year-old traveling to the various cities. With free agency so compressed this month after the 149-day lockout, most top free agents are expected to adopt the same approach as opposed to traveling extensively before training camps open, which is also scheduled for Friday.
The Mavericks, according to team sources, have always viewed re-signing Chandler as their No. 1 offseason priority, but it's believed they want to do a deal in the $10 million range annually, in hopes that they can keep maximum financial flexibility in the summer of 2012 to have the requisite salary-cap space to bid for top free agents for the first time in the Mark Cuban era.
Sources say Dallas is determined to make a run at Dwight Howard, Chris Paul or North Texas-native Deron Williams next summer and fears that matching the offers Chandler is expected to receive from the Warriors, Rockets and Nets will take the Mavericks out of the market for the big names before the process even starts.
As one of the league's oldest teams and with Nowitzki as its lone certifiable All-Star, Dallas privately concedes that it has to start looking to the future by trying to find a younger cornerstone player -- like Williams -- who can help Nowitzki transition to more of a co-starring role. The Mavs' big quandary, however, is that the presence of Nowitzki on the roster in July 2012 without Chandler as his frontcourt sidekick might not be enough to tempt the league's top free agents, given that Nowitzki will be 34 next summer.
One source with knowledge of Williams' thinking, for example, told ESPN.com earlier this week that the All-Star guard was unlikely to choose the Mavericks in free agency -- despite his local ties and appreciation of Nowitzki's game -- without Chandler in place as well.
The Nets are likewise chasing Nene and Chandler hard in hopes of upgrading their roster sufficiently to convince Williams to re-sign with them next summer before the team's long-awaited move to Brooklyn.
ESPN.com reported earlier this week that the Nets are prepared to offer Brook Lopez and two future first-round picks, while also absorbing the onerous contract of Hedo Turkoglu in hopes of convincing the Orlando Magic to deal them Howard, but the Nets have also forged ahead with the pursuit of Nene and Chandler to ensure that they land a top-flight big man, figuring that signing either one would also only enhance their collection of trade assets to offer the Magic for Howard.
The Warriors might have to use the forthcoming amnesty clause on guard Charlie Bell or even center Andris Biedrins to create enough cap space to win the bidding for Chandler, but they arguably rank as the strongest current threat to sign him away if the talks between the Mavericks and Chandler don't take a U-turn. Awash in scorers, Golden State is looking for a defensive-minded anchor to complement Monta Ellis, Stephen Curry and David Lee, establishing Chandler as the best fit in Oakland of the available centers. Houston, meanwhile, simply needs a top-flight center after the retirement of Yao Ming and continues to press hard for Nene or Chandler.
Chandler maintains that staying in Dallas has always been his first choice, but he expressed disappointment in Wednesday night's interview that the communication between the sides was minimal from the end of the NBA Finals in mid-June and the June 30 deadline for a contract extension. The Mavericks maintain that they were reluctant to talk about an extension before July 1 because no one knew how drastic changes to the NBA's collective bargaining agreement would be at that time.
The best estimates in circulation suggest that the Mavericks would only have roughly $5 million in cap space for the summer of 2012 if they match the offers Chandler is getting on the open market, even if Dallas' other free agents -- such as Caron Butler and Jose Juan Barea -- are all let go. To have the needed cap space to bid for a player of Paul's or Williams' caliber in July 2012 if Chandler is retained, Dallas would likely need to set free either backup center Brendan Haywood or forward Shawn Marion through the amnesty clause, bid farewell to 2012 free agent-to-be Jason Terry and perhaps even be forced to send away younger prospects like Corey Brewer or Rodrigue Beaubois in trades that bring back no salary.
Chandler, 29, was acquired by the Mavericks in July 2010 in a deal with the Charlotte Bobcats, co-headlined by Erick Dampier, but he was widely billed at the time as a consolation prize after Dampier's cap-friendly contract failed to get Dallas in the bidding for the league's marquee free agents (Miami stars LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh among them) through various sign-and-trade offers.
Yet Chandler wound up meshing with Nowitzki better than anyone anticipated, supplying length, athleticism, rim protection and a brand of vocal leadership that no big man who previously lined up alongside the eventual NBA Finals MVP had ever provided in Dallas.
After missing nearly 70 games over the previous two seasons through injury, Chandler wound up playing in 74 regular season games and finished third in the league's Defensive Player of the Year voting. In the Western Conference finals, Chandler helped Dallas to a 4-1 series win over the same Oklahoma City Thunder team that traded for him in February 2009 and then rescinded the trade one day later because of concerns about a toe injury
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king papichulo
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Travis Outlaw broke his hand hitting a punching bag...
I wonder if the Nets can legally void his contract without having to amnesty him. I remember when Monta Ellis got into a motorcycle accident, the GS could've voided his contract, but decided not to. Wonder if we can do that to Outlaw, I don't wanna see him in a Nets uniform comes Christmas time lol.
I wonder if the Nets can legally void his contract without having to amnesty him. I remember when Monta Ellis got into a motorcycle accident, the GS could've voided his contract, but decided not to. Wonder if we can do that to Outlaw, I don't wanna see him in a Nets uniform comes Christmas time lol.
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southsil4lil
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Go Rockets Go Rockets ****Bud Kilmer Voice****
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Can they really void it from him working out though?king papichulo;3845960 said:Travis Outlaw broke his hand hitting a punching bag...
I wonder if the Nets can legally void his contract without having to amnesty him. I remember when Monta Ellis got into a motorcycle accident, the GS could've voided his contract, but decided not to. Wonder if we can do that to Outlaw, I don't wanna see him in a Nets uniform comes Christmas time lol.
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dalyricalbandit
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LAS VEGAS — Former NBA star Antoine Walker was sentenced Tuesday to five years of probation and ordered to pay $770,050 in restitution to three Las Vegas casinos after pleading guilty to failing to repay gambling debts.
Walker and his lawyer declined to comment after his brief appearance before Clark County District Court Judge Valorie Vega.
Walker has repaid some of his Las Vegas casino debts since his arrest in July 2009 in Lake Tahoe, where he planned to play in a celebrity golf tournament.
The felony charge could be dismissed if Walker fully repays the remaining debts incurred in 2008 and 2009 at the Planet Hollywood, Red Rock Casino Resort and Caesars Palace casinos, prosecutor Samuel Bateman said. Walker faces a year in prison if he violates probation.
Walker, 35, starred on Kentucky’s 1996 NCAA national title team and was a three-time All-Star with the Boston Celtics before winning a 2006 NBA championship with the Miami Heat. He also played in the NBA for the Minnesota Timberwolves in 2008.
Walker filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy liquidation in 2010. He played last year with the Idaho Stampede of the NBA Development League.
Walker and his lawyer declined to comment after his brief appearance before Clark County District Court Judge Valorie Vega.
Walker has repaid some of his Las Vegas casino debts since his arrest in July 2009 in Lake Tahoe, where he planned to play in a celebrity golf tournament.
The felony charge could be dismissed if Walker fully repays the remaining debts incurred in 2008 and 2009 at the Planet Hollywood, Red Rock Casino Resort and Caesars Palace casinos, prosecutor Samuel Bateman said. Walker faces a year in prison if he violates probation.
Walker, 35, starred on Kentucky’s 1996 NCAA national title team and was a three-time All-Star with the Boston Celtics before winning a 2006 NBA championship with the Miami Heat. He also played in the NBA for the Minnesota Timberwolves in 2008.
Walker filed for Chapter 7 bankruptcy liquidation in 2010. He played last year with the Idaho Stampede of the NBA Development League.
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IceBergTaylor
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Alpha Outlaw;3847085 said:Can they really void it from him working out though?
Why he hittin a punching bag? How does that benefit him on the court? Drop his ass.
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