The Official 2011-2012 NBA season thread

[af.r.i.c.a.]

and rondo/milsap are on the block

 

[CMac]

Damn I can't wait for the season to start, how much yall think Direct TV is gonna sell the League Pass now that there's less games and shit??

 

[bigev240]

looks like B ROY is as good as gone. Orlando needs to bring him in asap.

Spurs should go after him and get rid of jefferson

 

[dalyricalbandit]

[size=+2]Report: Lakers to Target Dwight Howard and Chris Paul [/size]

One of the reasons we just went through that painful lockout, was the claim by small-market team owners that they’re sick and tired of teams like the Lakers gobbling up all of the major talent in the NBA. Well, um, …. From Sheridan Hoops: “It’s not hard to tell who won this war–the owners, especially the big ones. Nor is it hard to tell which of them won the most: That was Jerry Buss, the biggest of all. When the NBA couldn’t get a full ban on sign-and-trades, it left his Lakers in position to pull off a coup they’re dreaming of, which would make signing LeBron James pale by comparison. If Dwight Howard and Chris Paul wind up on the market — a safe assumption as far as I’m concerned — the Lakers could offer Andrew Bynum for Dwight and Pau Gasol for CP3, or vice versa. Nothing says that they will be enough to land either player, but it should put the Lakers in the running for both. (Oh, and Dwight likes the Lakers. Asked which All-Star he would most like to play with last season, he answered ‘Kobe Bryant.’) Nor will finances be a problem, ever again. … Next season, the Lakers start their 20-year, $3 billion deal with Time Warner, which will take them from their annual $30 million from Fox Sports West to $150 million. On paper, that would put the Lakers, who now average a profit of $45-60 million, zooming past $150 million. In fact, an informed source projects an even higher figure, in the $170 million range. (To put that in perspective, Forbes said the Knicks made a league-leading $64 million profit in 2009-10. The Lakers will more than double that.) In either case, Jerry, Jim and Jeannie Buss are going to have a lot to say about what happens in this league for a long time …”

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[D.D.S.]

Co-Sign. And if my memory serves doesn't rose have like the worst percentages out of every MVP winner or something like that?

nah i think a.i. got him beat lmao.

 

[dalyricalbandit]

Rondo for Paul... Woooww!!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/sam_amick/11/29/chris.paul.celtics/index.html

shit is getting interesting

 

[Chi-Town Bully]

Rondo for Paul... Woooww!!

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2011/writers/sam_amick/11/29/chris.paul.celtics/index.html

C's on the brink of rebuilding, Paul wont sign with them

 

[t_m_a_c_f_a_n73088]

C's on the brink of rebuilding, Paul wont sign with them

not only that but NO wants young players........ Not gonna happen. D. Howard to the Clips would just be fuckin unfair, smh @ the 82 game dunk contest/posterize session that would take place in L.A.

 

[eyes low]

damn no one is talking about the nets ready to offer a deal for howard

The New Jersey Nets are prepared to offer a trade package featuring Brook Lopez and two future first-round picks to acquire Dwight Howard before the Orlando Magic center becomes a free agent in July 2012, according to sources close to the situation.

Sources told ESPN.com this week that, to sweeten the proposal, New Jersey would likewise offer to take back the contract of Magic forward Hedo Turkoglu, who has three seasons left on his contract worth just under $35 million. Absorbing Turkoglu's remaining salary would become financially feasible for the Nets after the expected release of swingman Travis Outlaw through the amnesty clause that will be included in the NBA's new collective bargaining agreement and by including another smaller contract or two in the deal.

Lopez
Lopez
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Howard

Although teams won't be cleared to start making official roster moves until Dec. 9 at the earliest following the 149-day lockout, sources say team executives have been discussing potential trades for some time in anticipation of a condensed and hurried free agency period before the season's scheduled Dec. 25 start.

No trade deadline for the 2011-12 season has been set in stone yet by the league office, but many team executives believe it will fall in March. Once the league officially re-opens for business, Howard's future in Orlando is sure to be one of the season's dominant story lines, along with Chris Paul's future in New Orleans and the Nets' attempts to secure a long-term commitment from star guard Deron Williams.

It's been an open secret around the league that the Nets' dream scenario is pairing Howard with Williams, after they followed up their failed pursuit of Carmelo Anthony last season by trading for Williams just before the February trade deadline. It remains to be seen whether Howard will regard the Nets as a prime destination on par with the New York Knicks, even after they move out of New Jersey, but sources say that Russian owner Mikhail Prokhorov has long believed that teaming them up would convince both Team USA stars to commit their long-term future to the Brooklyn-bound Nets.

Most rival teams, however, doubt that the Magic can be convinced to start seriously considering trade scenarios for Howard this early. Orlando has thus far resisted outside interest in hopes of convincing the NBA's reigning Defensive Player of the Year to stay in Central Florida. Two team executives monitoring the situation told ESPN.com on Tuesday night that they expect Orlando to take a patient approach with what could be Howard's last year in town.

The Los Angeles Lakers are also expected to eventually lodge their own trade bid for Howard -- featuring some combination of Pau Gasol, Andrew Bynum and Lamar Odom -- but the Nets appear poised to furnish Orlando with a young replacement for Howard in Lopez, two higher draft picks than the Lakers could presumably offer and the ability to shed Turkoglu's expensive deal, which will enable Orlando to take another big rebuilding step.

It should be noted, though, that making such an offer -- even if Orlando ultimately proves amenable -- comes with its own risks for the Nets. The new tentative labor agreement struck last weekend by NBA owners and players has established new restrictions on extend-and-trade deals that would prevent New Jersey from offering Howard more than a one-year extension to his current contract as part of any trade. That's a sharp contrast from the four-year extension worth nearly $86 million that Anthony received as part of his trade from Denver to New York in February.

The Nets, then, would be putting themselves in danger of surrendering three more prime assets for Howard, after everything they gave up to get Williams, with both stars capable of opting out after the 2011-12 season and becoming unrestricted free agents.

Despite the Nets' obvious interest, the Lakers and Knicks continue to be widely presumed to be Howard's preferred destinations. The Los Angeles Clippers are also regarded as a legit contender Howard, despite the franchise's history under owner Donald Sterling, because they'll have cap space and could pair him with rising star Blake Griffin.

In a recent interview with Esquire magazine, Howard said: "There's more you can do in a bigger place. I'm stuck in a tough position because I feel like right now, where I'm at, I've done so much. And I just don't know what else I can do."

Sources say that the Nets, furthermore, will go ahead with their plans to be very active in free agency starting Wednesday at 9 a.m., when teams and agents are allowed to start discussions about player signings. Howard remains Prokhorov's No. 1 target, but New Jersey is expected to lodge bids for two of the top big men available in free agency -- Denver's Nene and Dallas' Tyson Chandler -- knowing that Howard will be hard to acquire even with its solid trade assets and that Williams is unlikely to stay with the Nets unless the roster is upgraded at center and small forward.

 

[king papichulo]

Damn, if only the Nets could somehow get Dwight & D-Will.

Boom! Title contenders

 

[5th Letter]

Damn, if only the Nets could somehow get Dwight & D-Will.

Boom! Title contenders

That would be sick but it's just wishful thinking right now

 

[king papichulo]

Who is Brook Lopez? You really think Orlando goin take that offer? I'd laugh in they face. They might as well just offered the draft picks by themselves.

It's not a bad deal. If Orlando trades Dwight, they will be in full rebuilding mode.

They'll get a young talented center in Lopez, and they'll get tons of cap relief since they will be trading Hedo and amnestying Arenas. Doubt they will accept though.

 

[nujerz84]

Who is Brook Lopez? You really think Orlando goin take that offer? I'd laugh in they face. They might as well just offered the draft picks by themselves.

Honestly the 2nd best Pure Center in the NBA.......

 

[king papichulo]

Nets GM Billy King is on WFAN 660AM right now and he just said that he hasn't talked to Orlando in over a year and that he was surprised that he woke up and read this stuff.

He also said that they haven't even gone into the new CBA enough to even see if a deal like this can be done yet.

Although, he is saying that they're on the phones and he keeps stressing that the Nets are trying to win now.

Btw, he was asked if they will trade Deron anytime this season. He says absolutely not.

 

[MR.CJ]

so the heat are the favorites???

what about dallas???

 

[Datdude87]

pacers have jumped n the rondo/paul convo

Pacers talk with Celtics about Rondo deal

By Adrian Wojnarowski, Yahoo! Sports

14 hours, 29 minutes ago

As Boston Celtics general manager Danny Ainge aggressively pursues possible deals for Rajon Rondo, the Indiana Pacers have emerged as an intriguing suitor for the point guard, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

For the past few days, Pacers officials – and third-party surrogates – have been making calls and gathering information and insight into Rondo’s reputation as a teammate and leader, sources said.

The Pacers and Celtics have discussed the preliminary framework of a deal, but two sources said Indiana would need a third team to provide Boston with the talent it wants to do a deal. The Celtics are likely trying to gather the necessary pieces to make a bid for Ainge’s ultimate target: New Orleans point guard Chris Paul, sources said.

It was unclear if the Pacers had begun to reach out to broaden discussions, but there was an expectation they would do so.

The Celtics have been gauging Rondo’s trade value for more than a year, and have held discussions with teams about him across the past few trade deadlines and NBA drafts. There have long been divides within Boston’s front office, coaching staff and locker room about Rondo. He can be moody, difficult and stubborn, and several league sources were dubious if the Pacers’ young coach, Frank Vogel, would have the stature to deal with Rondo.

Boston could be trying to gather players to make a more attractive bid for Paul, sources said. New Orleans has shown no interest in a deal that would include Rondo and any combination of Celtics teammates. Yet, New Orleans GM Dell Demps is determined to get maximum value for Paul, if it’s clear the point guard sees his future elsewhere. Demps has no desire to simply let Paul walk away as a free agent to New York.

Most teams in the league are engaging New Orleans about Paul, whose intentions are to get to the New York Knicks as a free agent in the summer of 2012. Paul does have some history in Oklahoma City, having played there with the Hornets in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina, but the Thunder have resisted dialogue on a Paul-for-Russell Westbrook deal, sources said.

The Thunder are prepared to make Westbrook a substantial contract offer – probably a maximum deal – in the near future.

 

[Beta]

Im not even a nets fan but they need to sign david west from the hornets and put him wit deron and lopez if dwight dont go there

 

[rice n gravy]

why c's tryna trade rondo so bad

he fuck ainge daughter or something?

 

[dalyricalbandit]

why c's tryna trade rondo so bad

he fuck ainge daughter or something?

what im asking myself sure c.p better but rondo does his thing

 

[R.D.]

what im asking myself sure c.p better but rondo does his thing

they need another scorer