The NWA Family Tree Starts With Dr Dre, Not Eazy E

[Stiff]

If it wasnt for Eazy, Dr.Dre prolly wouldve ended up an r&b producer

He wouldn'tve gotten on that path to make Chronic and put snoop on

True, but then again, maybe things would be better for the Black community if NWA never formed and Dre became an R & B producer.

I think R&B as a genre is more desirable than gangsta rap. Gangsta rap has ruined a lot of people's minds. They grow up wanting to be thugs instead of going to college and getting a degree and making something of themselves. I can't place the blame squarely on gangsta rap's shoulders, but I think gangsta rap hurts the community more than it helps.

Lol well thats a whole different discussion

 

[skpjr78]

If it wasnt for Eazy, Dr.Dre prolly wouldve ended up an r&b producer

He wouldn'tve gotten on that path to make Chronic and put snoop on

True, but then again, maybe things would be better for the Black community if NWA never formed and Dre became an R & B producer.

I think R&B as a genre is more desirable than gangsta rap. Gangsta rap has ruined a lot of people's minds. They grow up wanting to be thugs instead of going to college and getting a degree and making something of themselves. I can't place the blame squarely on gangsta rap's shoulders, but I think gangsta rap hurts the community more than it helps.

Smh at this clown blaming the reagan era and its aftermath on "gangsta rap". Like deindustrialuzation, community disinvestnent, underfunded schools, job loss, poor housing, poor health care, intl drug smuggling, the crack epidemic, mass incareration, police brutality and reaganomics all happened after nwa and "gangsta rap". cocaine smuggled in from south america and purposely put in black neighborhoods with the help of the cia and oliver north didnt ruin people's mind but eazy e and "gangsta rap" did.

According to this idiot none of these things happened before eazy picked up a mic and had nothing to do with the core issues that led to "gangsta rap" being created in the first place. I guess Darryl Gates didnt start rolling tanks through the hood until after he heard ftp. The watts riots of 1965 never happened and the 92 riots were a direct results of those thugged out criminals who lied in all those filthy, vulgar and untrue "gangsta rap" songs. Life for black america was perfect before "gangsta rap" and all of todays problem are all b/c of a "gangsta rap" group from the 80s. Everything was fine and getting better until eazy and "gangsta rap"came along.

Official fuck boy shit Smmfh

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uPqnrQfm8oU

 

[Lab Baby]

I heard a best of Dre compilation with some early WCWC and CIA on it. I'm an '86 baby, so those records were before my time. But you don't have to do much homework to know that Dre, Yella and Cube was musically puttin in work before NWA. However, as far as the image and the subject matter... Eazy's presence inspired NWA to be what it was. Matter of fact, if you listen to the Efil4zaggin album, aside from the actual rhymes, that seemed like Eazy's brainchild. Dre's production on that was proto-G funk, and Ren will always be Ren... but conceptually Eazy's fingerprints were all over that. Speaking of Ren, people don't give him credit for writing most of that album. It's hard to credit one person for that big of a legacy... but without Eazy especially, NWA wouldn't be what it is.

 

[kingblaze84]

After much thinking, I've concluded the NWA Family Tree does indeed start with Eazy E. Dre was a guy wearing shiny suits and making records that were far from NWA's known sound before 1987. He was more R&B. Eazy-E's personality and lifestyle took over the group, Dre and Cube were tough guys growing up but nowhere near as rough as Eazy when they started. And his finances were crucial to starting Ruthless Records.

On that note, Cube and Dre are right up there when it comes to influence within the group, especially Cube. Dre is constantly surrounded by success, that's not a coincidence. The fact Dre blew up on a bigger level after Eazy says a lot, but Eazy's influence should not be denied, MC Ren brought a lot to the table and Eazy's streed cred gave NWA credibility that it otherwise would have never had on a street level. It's why Dre pressured Eazy into rhyming so much, he knew Eazy rhyming along would give more cred to anything Cube and Dre were saying.

 

[TayGettem]

I got a QUESTION..... WHO GIVES AF AS LONG AS THE MUSIC GETS MADE

 

[kingblaze84]

I would go as far as saying Cube may be more important to NWA's legacy then Dre

 

[Stiff]

I would go as far as saying Cube may be more important to NWA's legacy then Dre

No way...Dre impacted the sound of the entire rap game with G-Funk

 

[Lebong James]

Boy you should've known by now

 

[skpjr78]

lol at the record credits giving a special thanks shout out to eazy e. lol at this being your proof that eazy wasnt involved pre-nwa. smmfh

 

[BackInWhite]

I got a QUESTION..... WHO GIVES AF AS LONG AS THE MUSIC GETS MADE

It's a discussion

With that attitude we'd never talk about shit

 

[Shizlansky]

If Yall wanna say it's starts with Eazy might as well say it's starts with Jerry.

He got them in the doors.

 

[5 Grand]

lol at the record credits giving a special thanks shout out to eazy e. lol at this being your proof that eazy wasnt involved pre-nwa. smmfh

But the Stereo Crew record came out a year earlier. It says written by O Jackson (Ice Cube) and A Wheaton produced by Alonzo Williams and Andre Young (Dr Dre). Eazy's name is nowhere to be found on that record label.

The undisputed fact is that Dre and Ice Cube (and possibly Yella) were making records together before NWA formed.

And just because that CIA record says "Special thanks o Eazy E" doesn't mean that he had anything to do with the production.

 

[5 Grand]

Here's Yella's account on how they got started

 

[skpjr78]

lol at the record credits giving a special thanks shout out to eazy e. lol at this being your proof that eazy wasnt involved pre-nwa. smmfh

But the Stereo Crew record came out a year earlier. It says written by O Jackson (Ice Cube) and A Wheaton produced by Alonzo Williams and Andre Young (Dr Dre). Eazy's name is nowhere to be found on that record label.

The undisputed fact is that Dre and Ice Cube (and possibly Yella) were making records together before NWA formed.

And just because that CIA record says "Special thanks o Eazy E" doesn't mean that he had anything to do with the production.

Yeah yeah yeah. Blah blah blah

If Alonzo was such a key player and the root why didnt his tree ever blossom??? If alonzo was such a force why didnt he create nwa? The pieces were there. If alonzo was so important and if eazy was just an after thought as you say then explain to me why alonzo's group flopped but eazy used the same core and his group maade history? Last i checked a movie was made about nwa not the wcwc. If alonzo was already connected to dre cube yella and michel'le before eazy why wasnt he able to do what eazy did? Why didnt any of these people find the sustained sucess with him that they found with eazy. Ive asked these questions before and ur hating ass hasnt answered any of them. Please explain this shit fuck boy.

Eazy had something to do with the cia project. If he didnt they wouldnt have given him a shout out. The purpose of giving shout outs is to publicly acknowledge people who were privately involved in the project. You started out by saying that eazy wasnt connected to anybody and that dre put everything together. Then u tried to say that alonzo was the man and that didnt hold water. Now you saying that eazy was involved just not in the production. Which one is it?????? Make up ur mind pussy.

 

[skpjr78]

lol at the record credits giving a special thanks shout out to eazy e. lol at this being your proof that eazy wasnt involved pre-nwa. smmfh

But the Stereo Crew record came out a year earlier. It says written by O Jackson (Ice Cube) and A Wheaton produced by Alonzo Williams and Andre Young (Dr Dre). Eazy's name is nowhere to be found on that record label.

The undisputed fact is that Dre and Ice Cube (and possibly Yella) were making records together before NWA formed.

And just because that CIA record says "Special thanks o Eazy E" doesn't mean that he had anything to do with the production.

If Alonzo was such a key player and the root why didnt his tree ever blossom??? If alonzo was so important and if eazy was just an after thought as you say then explain to me why alonzo's group flopped but eazy used the same core and his group maade history? If alonzo was already connected to dre cube yella and michel'le before eazy why wasnt he able to do what eazy did? Why didnt any of these people find the sustained sucess with him that they found with eazy? Ive asked these questions before and ur hating ass hasnt answered any of them.

Im still waiting on an answer @"5 Grand"

 

[nawledge_god]

The World Class Wrecking Crew was

Lonzo (Alonzo Williams),

Andre Young (Dr. Dre),

Marquette Hawkins (Cli-N-Tel),

Antoine Carraby(DJ Yella),

Barry Severe (Shakespeare),

Mona Lisa Young,

Michelle Toussaint (Michel'le).

They released five albums. Dr Dre and DJ Yella were involved in the first two;

World Class - 1985

Rapped in Romance - 1986

Turn Off The Lights In The Fast Lane - 1988

Dance In Romance - 1989 (without Dr Dre and Yella)

Phases In Life - 1990 (without Dr Dre and Yella)

As I understand it, Dr Dre was making noise in L.A. and the West Coast in the mid 80s before Eazy E came into the picture. As I mentioned in another thread, I remember the song Turn On The Lights getting played at parties in the spring of 1988.

In 1986, Ice Cube , Dr Dre and Alonzo Williams hooked up and formed the Stereo Crew. The name of the song was She's a Skag

In 1987, Dr Dre hooked up with Ice Cube again to record an EP. The name of the group was C.I.A.

If you look at the back of the record cover it clearly says Ice Cube and Dr Dre.

In the other thread there's a bunch of little kids that weren't even born when all of this was taking place claiming that the NWA family tree starts with Eazy E. Eazy E didn't record his first record until 1987. The song was called Boys In The Hood and was produced by Dr Dre and written by Ice Cube.

MC Ren didn't enter the picture until he appeared on the b-side of Eazy's second single, Radio

Track B2 "Compton's N The House" is the original version and only appears on this cassette single (the vinyl of this single has a radio edit of Eazy-Duz-It instead of Compton's N The House, sad but true). There is a remix version of Compton's N The House that appears on N.W.A.'s Straight Outta Compton album, but the original can only be found here on this cassette single.

So there you have it. The chronological order of all of the NWA members and their recordings. As you can clearly see, Dr Dre and DJ Yella were the first members of NWA to break into the music industry. While its true that Eazy founded Ruthless Records with Jerry Heller, Ice Cube and Dr Dre had already hooked up. Its likely that they would have gone on to be superstars without Eazy. They certainly had the talent.

You Forgot This One

 

[skpjr78]

If Alonzo was such a key player and the root why didnt his tree ever blossom??? If alonzo was so important and if eazy was just an after thought as you say explain to me why alonzo's group flopped but eazy used the same core and his group made history? If alonzo was already connected to dre cube yella and michel'le before eazy why wasnt he able to do what eazy did? Why didnt any of these people find the sustained sucess with him that they found with eazy? If alonzo was so great why didnt he create NWA? He had all the pieces. If he was so important and so great at creating influential groups why couldnt he make another one after his original group fell apart? Ive asked these questions before and ur hating ass hasnt answered any of them.

5 days later and still no answer @"5 Grand"

 

[Jabu_Rule]

If it wasnt for Eazy, Dr.Dre prolly wouldve ended up an r&b producer

He wouldn'tve gotten on that path to make Chronic and put snoop on

True, but then again, maybe things would be better for the Black community if NWA never formed and Dre became an R & B producer.

I think R&B as a genre is more desirable than gangsta rap. Gangsta rap has ruined a lot of people's minds. They grow up wanting to be thugs instead of going to college and getting a degree and making something of themselves. I can't place the blame squarely on gangsta rap's shoulders, but I think gangsta rap hurts the community more than it helps.

I disagree but I get what you saying. You can't blame gangsta rap for ruining communities, bad parenting and bad economies is what ruins communities. And some kids will be bad asses regardless in rare cases, but that's bigger than music. And being a good parent is beyond putting food on the table and paying the rent or mortgage.

You discounted the infiltration of state sanctioned Drugs (mafia, right wing cartels) and the marginalization of black communities that was a remnant of the destruction of the black power movement which ended in riots that made the LA riots look tame.

 

[skpjr78]

If Alonzo was such a key player and the root why didnt his tree ever blossom??? If alonzo was so important and if eazy was just an after thought as you say explain to me why alonzo's group flopped but eazy used the same core and his group made history? If alonzo was already connected to dre cube yella and michel'le before eazy why wasnt he able to do what eazy did? Why didnt any of these people find the sustained sucess with him that they found with eazy? If alonzo was so great why didnt he create NWA? He had all the pieces. If he was so important and so great at creating influential groups why couldnt he make another one after his original group fell apart? Ive asked these questions before and ur hating ass hasnt answered any of them.

5 days later and still no answer @"5 Grand"

Lol at this dumbass getting run out of his own thread. Dude said some stupid shit got called out and now he wont even step foot in his own fucking thread. Take notes everyone. This is how you handle haters who dont know what the fuck they are talking about. Pull your skirt down bitch. You've been exposed.

 

[5 Grand]

If Alonzo was such a key player and the root why didnt his tree ever blossom??? If alonzo was so important and if eazy was just an after thought as you say explain to me why alonzo's group flopped but eazy used the same core and his group made history? If alonzo was already connected to dre cube yella and michel'le before eazy why wasnt he able to do what eazy did? Why didnt any of these people find the sustained sucess with him that they found with eazy? If alonzo was so great why didnt he create NWA? He had all the pieces. If he was so important and so great at creating influential groups why couldnt he make another one after his original group fell apart? Ive asked these questions before and ur hating ass hasnt answered any of them.

5 days later and still no answer @"5 Grand"

Lol at this dumbass getting run out of his own thread. Dude said some stupid shit got called out and now he wont even step foot in his own fucking thread. Take notes everyone. This is how you handle haters who dont know what the fuck they are talking about. Pull your skirt down bitch. You've been exposed.

You're a troll and you're beating a dead horse.

You're a waste of my time.