THE NEW MUSIC SEMINAR EMCEE, DJ, BEAT BOX BATTLES OF THE 80'S

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Hip Hop Conventions-They're Going Global

by Davey D.

Once upon a time it seemed like all the worthwhile Hip Hop Conventions took place only in New York City. I'm thinking back to the days late 80s during the legendary New Music Seminar where damn near everyone and their grandma would come to Hip Hop's birthplace and attempt to break through. As Hip Hop evolved conventions began popping up in other cities where Hip Hop was flourishing. First it was Los Angeles then other spots like San Francisco, New Orleans, Miami and Atlanta played host. Over the years I've been to all sorts of conventions like Urban Network, Impact, Rap Sheet, Jack The Rapper and The Gavin Convention to name a select few. In all these seminars I always noticed scores of people from other countries spending tons of money and taking time to come over here attempting to breakthrough. I also noticed a similar 'elitist' and sometimes disdainful attitude toward our foreign visitors as it was back in the days for non New York Hip Hop artist visiting the Big Apple. Folks really didn't time out to acknowledge and note that there are indeed thriving Hip Hop scenes outside of the US. We got caught up in thinking that life begins and ends at our shores.

I recall going to Seminars back in the '80s and folks from The Big Apple just outright refusing to except the fact that Hip Hop existed beyond the 5 boroughs. Even folks from nearby Jersey or Philly had a rough time finding acceptance. The prevailing thought was if it wasn't from New York it wasn't real. If it wasn't from New York it wasn't even Hip Hop. Every so often some one would come along and exude some skillz that would shatter the myth of NY being the only place for Hip Hop. In those days it was usually the deejays who made strides. Most notable was in 1987 DJ Joe Cooley of Los Angeles going up against DJ Cash Money of Philadelphia in what is still a legendary Battle for Hip Hop World Supremacy. It was one of the first times two finalist competed in either the emcee or dj battles who weren't from New York. It wasn't until some of these seminar took the show on the road and folks got to see Hip Hop in other cities. The Gavin Conventions held in SF during the early 90s help refocus and redefine the boundaries. That was later followed by Atlanta, New Orleans and other spots.. But again aside from a few cats here and there like DJ Honda..folks were not really giving acknowledgement to the scenes outside the states......
 
lamontbdc;4126278 said:
now that was an old school battle good drop

@lamontbdc, word and that was in 87 the last year before a change of the guard for the Emcee elite's of Caz, Mell, Moe Dee, T La Rock was making room for a Kane, Krs-1, Rakim
 
1985 NEW MUSIC SEMINAR EMCEE BATTLE between

THE 1985 NEW MUSIC SEMINAR EMCEE CHAMPION THE CHIEF ROCKA BUSY BEE

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vs

THE QUEEN ROXANNE SHANTE

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Yo as i sit back and listen to that battle between BUSY BEE vs Roxanne Shante, i don't know how Busy Bee won. He must of have some of the judges in his pocket because ROXANNE SHANTE killed BUSY BEE he lost that match.

 
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waterproof;4126478 said:
Yo as i sit back and listen to that battle between BUSY BEE vs Roxanne Shante, i don't know how Busy Bee one. He must of have some of the judges in his pocket because ROXANNE SHANTE killed BUSY BEE he lost that match.

100% truth. I know so many people that rocked with shante solely because she put in work in this battle. Props on these drops.
 
Who Cares???;4126498 said:
waterproof;4126478 said:
Yo as i sit back and listen to that battle between BUSY BEE vs Roxanne Shante, i don't know how Busy Bee one. He must of have some of the judges in his pocket because ROXANNE SHANTE killed BUSY BEE he lost that match.

100% truth. I know so many people that rocked with shante solely because she put in work in this battle. Props on these drops.

@whocares??? word up and you know what, i have to say i need to give her just due. Because we all heard the stories how on a"RECORD" Kane and G-Rap used to write her rhymes. Well throw that shit out the window because she went for dolo against Busy Bee who was in the early 80's held so many emcee titles until Moe Dee shut that shit down, and she rocked off the dome freestyled the shit and killed Busy Bee
 
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The seminars were mainly put together by Tom Silverman (Tommy Boy) and ran from around '86 until '92 or '93. After that the focus shifted to other industry conventions such as Gavin in the Bay area and How Can I Be Down in Miami. But between those years, it was the place for people within the industry to meet and do business, as well as for fans to see some crazy performances. I only went in '91 but I remember it was crazy, the hotel was full of every Hip-Hop artist you could think of walking around, and I remember there was a big fight in the lobby between Cube's crew (Street Knowledge, this was pre-Lench Mob)and Above The Law (because of their NWA affiliation). Mel was always a real showman at the MC battles, in fact I was talking with a WWE person the other day about some of how some of Mel's old school battle tactics would come across real well in the WWE! Remember while Mikey D was rhyming in that battle, Mel was doing pushups in front of him..!

I also remember a great battle between Qwest the Madd Ladd and (I think) Craig G, which Rick Rubin liked so much he pressed it up on a limited green vinyl promo for DJ's.


^^^^^for yall old heads who was old enough to remember when NIGGAZ4LIFE dropped there was a skit on the LP when a phone caller called in and talked about how ABOVE THE LAW and ICE Cube team got into the fight at the Seminar
 
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FOR ALL THE BEATJUNKIES MIXMASTERS BEAT JUGGLING DJ'S out here here's a DJ BATTLE FROM THE SEMINAR

1987 DJ BATTLE between

PHILLYS LEGENDARY AND DJ HALL OF FAME MEMBER, DJ CASH MONEY

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VS

WEST COAST LEGEND JOE COOLEY from THE LEGENDARY RODENY O and JOE COOLEY

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Bomb Hip-Hop Magazine #22 (September 1993)

Gangsta Limpin

by Funken-Klein

When I saw the NYC skyline again, it gave me a semi... I was there for

the New Music Seminar MC/DJ battles. Best MC’s were finalists

Supernatural and Mad Skills. Dread Supernatural jumped in the audience

and did an impression of Kane. Mad Skills said, “I can keep rappin’ ‘til

Biz Markie gets cute.” Other qualifiers were Ms. Slim Child, Mic

Mutilator, and Havoc. The champ DJ was 8 Ball from the Bay with his low

ridin’ Kangol who somehow, when battling a talented DJ named Rectangle,

cut up “DJ Rectangle get the f*ck out my face.” He also played Yankee

Doodle with turntables. Congrats to Supermen’s Clark Kent, Jenny, and

Ann Kristoff who hooked things up. It was kinda hard to recognize

everybody with their fresh baldies. And Serch lost 30 pounds. Coolio had

his Compton attack braids. Also in effect: Davy D, Scratch who’s

spinning for PMD, Sugarpop fresh out the Janet Jackson video, Funkmaster

Flex, Kool Keith and Ced, Dan Charnas from Def American in a smart

dinner jacket, Gucci Man pushin’ his Suave rec, Bam, Red Alert gave a

shout to me from his mom (Mama Zulu), a guy with a lizard, and a dude on

the street by the Sheraton tappin’ and singin’, “I got rhythm, I got

rhythm,” over and over.
 
1985 NEW MUSIC SEMINAR BATTLE BETWEEN

THE QUEEN ROXANNE SHANTE

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VS

THE GATEKEEPER FRUKWAN from the LEGENDARY STETSASONIC and THE GRAVEDIGGAZ

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The DJ Battles

1981 - DJ Whiz kid

1982 - Grandmixer DST

1983 - DJ Afrika Islam

1984 - DJ Cheese

1985 - DJ Easy G Rockwell

1986 - DJ Jazzy Jeff

1987 - DJ Cashmoney

1988 - DJ Scratch

1989 - DJ Miz

1990 - Steve D

1991 - DJ Supreme

1992 - DJ Mixmaster Mike

1993 - DJ 8 Ball

1994 - DJ Noize

Mc Battles

1985 - Buzy Bee

1986 - GrandMaster Caz

1987 - Melle mel

1988 - Mikey D

1989 - Freshco

1990 - Mc Kid Jazz

1991 - Mc Serge

1992 - ???

1993 - Mc Supernatual

1994 - Mc Judgemental
 
Damn I remember they used to show these on Video Music Box back in the day. The DJ battles alone was enough to watch it.
 
bigev240;4126919 said:
Damn I remember they used to show these on Video Music Box back in the day. The DJ battles alone was enough to watch it.

there is some footage and audio of some DJ Battles that i will look for and post. Aint nothing like a hip-hop DJ Battle
 

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