The Jigga Man Shawn Carter aka JayZ Official Thread...

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you guys really need to shut the fuck up with this bullshit that Jay-z .. SHAWN FUCKING CARTER is in the illuminati which in itself is just a conspiracy theory it is not a factttt

and if it was real he'd be the only black member of it everrrr

HES A FUCKING RAPPER THATS ITTTT
 
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If he is so fucking what it's his life he chooses what he wants to do with it niggas focus to much on what that other mans life like to much now days
 
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Masons does not equal Illuminati, ive read up on all this shit (Illuminati) and if niggas are willing to accept that the Illuminati does exist i hope they are willing to accept that organize religion is complete bullshit because that's what it implies. You conspiracy nuts can't chose bits and pieces of what you wan't to believe and overlook the parts that contradicts you whole belief system which is uber- Christians.

I personally know Masons, i've been in lodges for my fraternity stuff, my frat founders where masons. Guess what, they were all Christians, were regular citizens who were doctors, pastors, cops,etc. Shit ain't got shit to do with devil worshipping or none of that nonsense.
 
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"hustlas we dont sleep we rest "1 eye up" -Jay-Z

"It's a secret society, all we ask is trust

and within a week, watch your arm freeze up" -Jay-Z

theres plenty more but i cant think of all that right now
 
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musicology1985;384982 said:
this response is so generic and lame. 85% of the pop are busting they as trying to get money/resources or put themeselves in a position to. as far as the 10%? thats all they promote is "get money." I mean damn man if u wanna talk regular shit why u n this thread?

son... you focusing in on the wrong idea... what I'm saying and stay with me is why worry about something that you have no proof on whether it is true or not, something you can't do anything about and find your passion and succeed in it and not worry about the next man... that's what Get Money is all about, find what you love and do it well
 
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Give it up like bleek said jay aint got enough money to rule the world, there is no N.w.o and the Mayans are dead and there are no aliens and ummm what else is there MJ and tupac are both really dead.
 
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meekins;385977 said:
"hustlas we dont sleep we rest "1 eye up" -Jay-Z

"It's a secret society, all we ask is trust

and within a week, watch your arm freeze up" -Jay-Z

theres plenty more but i cant think of all that right now

A perfect example of an IDIOT taking stuff out of context. I swear, some of you niggas reach for the most random shit and don't have the basic logic to look at stuff in context. Anyone can take shit out of context, i guess probably believe Nas really went to hell for snuffing Jesus too.
 
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usmarin3;386230 said:
A perfect example of an IDIOT taking stuff out of context. I swear, some of you niggas reach for the most random shit and don't have the basic logic to look at stuff in context. Anyone can take shit out of context, i guess probably believe Nas really went to hell for snuffing Jesus too.

yea you right.. cuz jay could never be a part of nothing deep like a secret society as big as he is.. he would never drop subtle hints in his music.. jay aint that type of rapper to make slick statements ...........
 
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meekins;386273 said:
yea you right.. cuz jay could never be a part of nothing deep like a secret society as big as he is.. he would never drop subtle hints in his music.. jay aint that type of rapper to make slick statements ...........

USE FUCKING COMMON SENSE DUDE. What's the point of being in a secret society and dropping hints you're in it, explain that to me Shirlock. How does it affect you if he was in a (insert spooky voice) secret society, does it change your belief, does it affect your life. You niggas have bigger causes you could be fighting than this dumb shit, ain't black teenagers killing each other in Chicago.
 
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meekins;386273 said:
yea you right.. cuz jay could never be a part of nothing deep like a secret society as big as he is.. he would never drop subtle hints in his music.. jay aint that type of rapper to make slick statements ...........

anything is possible, but as big as Jay is??? I'm mean just how big is he, ppl think he's either the or one of the best to do it, but his influence has been waning over the years, through his sheer desire to stay relevant does he stay on ppl's minds
 
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usmarin3;386287 said:
USE FUCKING COMMON SENSE DUDE. What's the point of being in a secret society and dropping hints you're in it, explain that to me Shirlock. How does it affect you if he was in a (insert spooky voice) secret society, does it change your belief, does it affect your life. You niggas have bigger causes you could be fighting than this dumb shit, ain't black teenagers killing each other in Chicago.

it is what it is.. if he came out and told YOU.... YOU my nigga.. he addressed YOU personally and told you he was high rankings and you still wouldnt believe it.

if jay wanna play with the public and make us talk about him.. why not? whats wrong with it? he can be a part of it .. what you gon do.... whats anybody gon do? call the police?? bush knocked down the towers.. ok. what you gon do. nothing. it dont matter what you know or dont know. it is what it is and there aint nothing you can or gon do about it.
 
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c1up;386293 said:
anything is possible, but as big as Jay is??? I'm mean just how big is he, ppl think he's either the or one of the best to do it, but his influence has been waning over the years, through his sheer desire to stay relevant does he stay on ppl's minds

jay made top 10 people you just cant hate in some white suburban magazine.. theres 10 white people i never heard of then theres jay.. like wtf??
 
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meekins;386314 said:
jay made top 10 people you just cant hate in some white suburban magazine.. theres 10 white people i never heard of then theres jay.. like wtf??

but exactly he's with a group of white folks your average urban, suburban, and rural person has never heard of...
 
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meekins;386308 said:
it is what it is.. if he came out and told YOU.... YOU my nigga.. he addressed YOU personally and told you he was high rankings and you still wouldnt believe it.

if jay wanna play with the public and make us talk about him.. why not? whats wrong with it? he can be a part of it .. what you gon do.... whats anybody gon do? call the police?? bush knocked down the towers.. ok. what you gon do. nothing. it dont matter what you know or dont know. it is what it is and there aint nothing you can or gon do about it.

I wouldn't give a fuck because i look at these mfs as entertainers, ain't none of these niggas political figures or spiritual leaders. You still haven't answered how any of this bs affects you, what it seems to me is niggas are gullible as fuck and believe these Youtube videos, where the creators of these videos clearly is a uber-Christian and look for people who don't use logic and question information. Look at all those youtube videos, they filter out people who try to question the sheer logic of the videos and only post comments that go along with their views. It's whatever, i'm in law school so i look at shit from a logical point of view and go by concrete evidence, none of this shit that i've seen make sense to me. It's just bits and pieces of info taken out of context to spook gullible people and these gullible people projection their views on images they see in videos. I could look at a movie like Lord of the Rings, Mad Max, I am Legend or Escape from NY and say there are symbolism in it.
 
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usmarin3;386447 said:
I wouldn't give a fuck because i look at these mfs as entertainers, ain't none of these niggas political figures or spiritual leaders. You still haven't answered how any of this bs affects you, what it seems to me is niggas are gullible as fuck and believe these Youtube videos, where the creators of these videos clearly is a uber-Christian and look for people who don't use logic and question information. Look at all those youtube videos, they filter out people who try to question the sheer logic of the videos and only post comments that go along with their views. It's whatever, i'm in law school so i look at shit from a logical point of view and go by concrete evidence, none of this shit that i've seen make sense to me. It's just bits and pieces of info taken out of context to spook gullible people and these gullible people projection their views on images they see in videos. I could look at a movie like Lord of the Rings, Mad Max, I am Legend or Escape from NY and say they are symbolism in it.

its a fucked up world and anybody who think this government is basic 1-2 shit is silly. things can unfold right infront of you and youd still be in denial
 
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meekins;386458 said:
its a fucked up world and anybody who think this government is basic 1-2 shit is silly. things can unfold right infront of you and youd still be in denial

So how did we go from Jay-z to the government? Come on son, just admit you got spooked by these silly Youtube videos where they darkened the pics and videos, blacken the artist eyes, and get the artist at an angle in a video when the shadow made them look spooky.
 
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usmarin3;386473 said:
So how did we go from Jay-z to the government? Come on son, just admit you got spooked by these silly Youtube videos where they darkened the pics and videos, blacken the artist eyes, and get the artist at an angle in a video when the shadow made them look spooky.

aint nobody spooked.. lol.. why would i be spooked. but i aint gon go back n forth wit yo azz. be cool, my nigga
 
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c1up;386107 said:
son... you focusing in on the wrong idea... what I'm saying and stay with me is why worry about something that you have no proof on whether it is true or not, something you can't do anything about and find your passion and succeed in it and not worry about the next man... that's what Get Money is all about, find what you love and do it well

ok, thats good motivation coaching and ain't nothing wrong with that. but do u really think people are sitting around like, "damn, I ain't gone do shit today to put food on the table. i'm just gone sit here and talk about hova." son, people can't afford to do that unless their children. and in that case, i ain't mad at them, just make sure u balance out your computer time with exercise, family, friends, education and chores.

what i'm getting at is, why are u mainstream type guys always trying to stop or deter people from thinking outside the box? they can have a job, career and passion & do that as well. every time we listen to the radio, watch videos or hear a mixtape, all we here most of the time is "sell dope, get money, fuck some hoes and make sure u shoot a nigga or fuck his girl while u at it." some of us think deeper than that u know. there is a lot of symbolism in Jay's music videos and subliminals in his songs. on top of that, his business & political connects bring forth further speculation & factual proof of his ties to the global elite, even though it is on a lower level. therefore making him one of their most important mouth pieces.

in the united states we have freedom of speech, and the internet has allowed for another segment of society to be heard that would have never recieved the time of day before. i didn't watch the yt vid, but i know enough about mainstream media to know that this discussion is a good one.
 
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musicology1985;386540 said:
ok, thats good motivation coaching and ain't nothing wrong with that. but do u really think people are sitting around like, "damn, I ain't gone do shit today to put food on the table. i'm just gone sit here and talk about hova." son, people can't afford to do that unless their children. and in that case, i ain't mad at them, just make sure u balance out your computer time with exercise, family, friends, education and chores.

what i'm getting at is, why are u mainstream type guys always trying to stop or deter people from thinking outside the box? they can have a job, career and passion & do that as well. every time we listen to the radio, watch videos or hear a mixtape, all we here most of the time is "sell dope, get money, fuck some hoes and make sure u shoot a nigga or fuck his girl while u at it." some of us think deeper than that u know. there is a lot of symbolism in Jay's music videos and subliminals in his songs. on top of that, his business & political connects bring forth further speculation & factual proof of his ties to the global elite, even though it is on a lower level. therefore making him one of their most important mouth pieces.

in the united states we have freedom of speech, and the internet has allowed for another segment of society to be heard that would have never recieved the time of day before. i didn't watch the yt vid, but i know enough about mainstream media to know that this discussion is a good one.

this debate has gone on for a minute... it's like the redundant Ether vs Takeover, Pac vs Biggie threads... and on top of that how fly is Jay-Z political connects outside of talking to Obama... who understands that in order to stay relevant to the youthful voters, you have to stay hip. And you know Jay-Z has done other songs outside of the violence, drug selling, and money making and fucking girls music.

And lol I'm a mainstream guy? Wow that's a first, I listen to Mos, Joe Budden, Lupe, old Rhymefest, Jay Electronica, etc. Lol I'd considered myself pretty diverse
 
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c1up;386617 said:
this debate has gone on for a minute... it's like the redundant Ether vs Takeover, Pac vs Biggie threads... and on top of that how fly is Jay-Z political connects outside of talking to Obama... who understands that in order to stay relevant to the youthful voters, you have to stay hip. And you know Jay-Z has done other songs outside of the violence, drug selling, and money making and fucking girls music.

And lol I'm a mainstream guy? Wow that's a first, I listen to Mos, Joe Budden, Lupe, old Rhymefest, Jay Electronica, etc. Lol I'd considered myself pretty diverse

I understand you tired of it, but that does not give u the right to stop those who are still interested. just let it fade out. as far as obama? he is a figure for global control just like jay is, albeit on a higher level politically & family wise. also, I never said jay wasn't hip & only talked b.s., but he was a major figure in overcommercializing the genre circa 97-04. in turn setting the stage for those who could & would emulate but never equal his greatness.
 
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