The Jigga Man Shawn Carter aka JayZ Official Thread...

[CeLLaR-DooR]

One Love/I Gave You Power - Nas

Keep Your Head Up -- 'Pac

Stan -- Em

Girls, Girls, Girls -- Jig

In Da Club -- 50

I Need Love -- LL

Bitch In Yoo -- Common

Aquemini/B.O.B -- 'Kast

Dance With The Devil -- IT

Fight the Power -- Public Enemy

I think that covers most aspects of rap

 

[The Lonious Monk]

There are too many good candidates for me to make a list. I'll just say that Jay's choices suck. Dear Mama is a great song but is pretty low on the list of Pac songs that truly show what Hip Hop is about. To Zion isn't even Hip Hop. It's much closer to soul or neo soul or something in that vein.

 

[CeLLaR-DooR]

There are too many good candidates for me to make a list. I'll just say that Jay's choices suck. Dear Mama is a great song but is pretty low on the list of Pac songs that truly show what Hip Hop is about. To Zion isn't even Hip Hop. It's much closer to soul or neo soul or something in that vein.

Whenever someone on the IC asks people make a list...There's always one person that says 'There's too many good songs to narrow it down'...Fam juss make a list

 

[DatNiggaB1]

all families go through real shit.....shit aint going always be peaches and cream......but real families stay together, and dont let money and fam be the driving force to break them up.....if jay wanted to break it off with beans, i would have respected jay if he would have told beans, man to man, face to face, it was only business all these years, all that family talk i would tell yahll was just business, or what ever else jay would tell beans, of course beans made mistakes as a man, but dont we all at some point, but jay couldnt even give that man a fucking phone call, i cant respect jay as a man after how he carried his situation with beans....

I see what ya sayin but in hiphop how many 'families' stay together? It's rare cause hiphop is a buisness. Look at Dipset, they only back together for buisness purposes.
On one hand you got Jay who is trying to establish himself in corporate america/politics, on the other hand you got Beans who cant handle his own money correctly and goes to jail regualrly for stupid shit. Now if your Jay would you keep bailing out a nigga who obviously not on your buisness level or would you start thinking of your self?

Blood is thicker than water and i'm sure Jay's blood fam live ok.

 

[runningwolf1980]

I see what ya sayin but in hiphop how many 'families' stay together? It's rare cause hiphop is a buisness. Look at Dipset, they only back together for buisness purposes.

On one hand you got Jay who is trying to establish himself in corporate america/politics, on the other hand you got Beans who cant handle his own money correctly and goes to jail regualrly for stupid shit. Now if your Jay would you keep bailing out a nigga who obviously not on your buisness level or would you start thinking of your self?

Blood is thicker than water and sure i'm Jay's blood fam live ok.

cant teach dumb niggaz breh.....besides the cats giving jay a hard time about this would give him a hard time about anything.....

 

[b@squ1@t redux]

i hate jay z cause he wont give me any money

 

[blackrain]

exactly.....

niggas wanna gossip no more no less...if it was about actual skill and whose the better rapper between Jay and Beans they wouldn't be taking personal shots at Jay...

 

[blackrain]

all families go through real shit.....shit aint going always be peaches and cream......but real families stay together, and dont let money and fame be the driving force to break them up.....if jay wanted to break it off with beans, i would have respected jay if he would have told beans, man to man, face to face, it was only business all these years, all that family talk i would tell yahll was just business, or what ever else jay would tell beans, of course beans made mistakes as a man, but dont we all at some point, but jay couldnt even give that man a fucking phone call, i cant respect jay as a man after how he carried his situation with beans....

yes all families go through shit but how long are you gonna coddle a grown man who can't keep himself out of jail? Jay gave Sigel a chance niggas have killed over and he consistently fucked up by going in and out of prison...how long before Beanie Sigel becomes responsible for his own actions? How about not respecting the fact that Sigel fucked up a chance to not only better himself but to help better others like Jay tried to do with him?

 

[beerisgood4ya]

cant teach dumb niggaz breh.....besides the cats giving jay a hard time about this would give him a hard time about anything.....

o ima dumb nigga? fuck you faggot....family is thicker than money and fame you fake nigga.....i wonder if lil wayne had signed to jay, then wayne got locked up like he did this year, would jay turn his back on him as well like he did beansl??? i bet if jay would turn his back on wayne if that situation occured, fake niggas like you would find ways to trash wayne, and ride jay dick......fucking faggots......

 

[DatNiggaB1]

o ima dumb nigga? fuck you faggot....family is thicker than money and fame you fake nigga.....i wonder if lil wayne had signed to jay, then wayne got locked up like he did this year, would jay turn his back on him as well like he did beansl??? i bet if jay would turn his back on wayne if that situation occured, fake niggas like you would find ways to trash wayne, and ride jay dick......fucking faggots......

Whoa chill nigga.......and Beans went to jail a few times before Jay moved on, him and Bey even went court to vouch for the nigga, but as Jay knew that Beans was unpredictable he couldn't keep it up.

Ask yourself this, you got good friends right? one of them keep fucking up and it starts to affect your life, are you really gonna let this one nigga pull your life down cause he cant get his shit together?

The fact is Jay made Beans a millionaire. Has any of your friends/fam ever done that for you? Beans mama moved out tha hood cause of Jay, his kids eatin better cause of Jay. On his own what is Beans doin? jumpin on Gunit bandwagon jus caus Banks and Yayo stay paid?

C'mon man, Beans fucked up.

 

[great l]

Gee, bruh i have to disagree with you right there....What Jay did to Dame Dash,Kareem and Beans is unforgivable no matter how you try to justify or put it.

Any Black man that shits on his fellow race to get to the top or be accepted by the white community then he is a certified house negro and should face the wrath of the black community.

50, Jay, Diddy, Dre are jus examples..........

Please tell me exactly what Jay did to Beans, Dame and Biggs that is unforgivable. I am really curious.

WTF do you mean shits on his own race? What exactly has he done to warrant such a stupid accusation? When 50 was busy cooning and saying he would vote for Hilary Clinton, when other artists and celebrities wouldn't mention their choice for candidacy for fear of public retaliation, Jay-Z took a stand and was straight for Obama even when he wasn't that popular at the time.

Small minded people think like you and that's why you probably will never see beyond your myopic view. To get ahead and acheive your dreams, you have to make sacrifices and if that means cutting off the extra fat, then so be it. There's no pride in poverty bruh and all these cats you are mentioning have done more for the community that you probably will ever do in your lifetime.

 

[blackrain]

Whoa chill nigga.......and Beans went to jail a few times before Jay moved on, him and Bey even went court to vouch for the nigga, but as Jay knew that Beans was unpredictable he couldn't keep it up.

Ask yourself this, you got good friends right? one of them keep fucking up and it starts to affect your life, are you really gonna let this one nigga pull your life down cause he cant get his shit together?

The fact is Jay made Beans a millionaire. Has any of your friends/fam ever done that for you? Beans mama moved out tha hood cause of Jay, his kids eatin better cause of Jay. On his own what is Beans doin? jumpin on Gunit bandwagon jus caus Banks and Yayo stay paid?

C'mon man, Beans fucked up.

this is what people don't seem to remember...it's not like Sigel caught one bid and then Jay said "Fuck this nigga"....this is YEARS of Sigel going in and out jail...

 

[beerisgood4ya]

Whoa chill nigga.......and Beans went to jail a few times before Jay moved on, him and Bey even went court to vouch for the nigga, but as Jay knew that Beans was unpredictable he couldn't keep it up.

Ask yourself this, you got good friends right? one of them keep fucking up and it starts to affect your life, are you really gonna let this one nigga pull your life down cause he cant get his shit together.

The fact is Jay made Beans a millionaire. Has any of your friends/fam ever done that for you? Beans mama moved out tha hood cause of Jay, his kids eatin better cause of Jay. On his own what is Beans doin? jumpin on Gunit bandwagon jus caus Banks and Yayo stay paid?

C'mon man, Beans fucked up.

that wasnt to u, it was to the faggot runningwolf for coming out his mouth side ways.....

 

[usmarin3]

I seriously question some of you niggas thinking!

How do yall base friendships on what someone can do for you? That's some fucked up shit, you mean to tell me you only hang around people because they are in a financially stable or power position! Maybe i grew up different than niggas nowadays, but i don't see how you call yourself a man and can't stand on your own two feet or your dumb ass can't stay out of trouble.

Nas said it best on Still Dreaming

How you a man waitin' for the next man to get rich?

Yo' plan is to stick out yo' hand real quick

So if he feed ya family and he serve you shit

Then he need that head you get and he deserve your bitch

Since you wishin' cash fall from the sky all ya life

Dwellin' on the past when you was alright

When you was gettin' cash but wasn't too bright

Now ya luck down you feel like, bustin' them shells

Nobody owe you, can't do nothin' for self

Want niggaz to show you, how to come up wit' green

I scheme since I'm fourteens, what the fuck was your dream?

Rental cars, little broads, sayin' you was seen

Wit' little niggaz wit' a chain you was doin' ya thing

How high was I? You the thousandth guy

That came around thinkin' we can see, eye to eye

We on a different echelon, coulda got bread together

Now you gets deaded on

 

[Mumo X]

gotta co sign this.......when jay called beans, dame ect his family and all that, im sure beans, dame ect thought it would stay that for life.....If me and some of niggas got together and started a business, then on top of that, called it a family business, then thats what it would stay......if my partner i call my family gets locked up, ima go see him as much as i can while he lock down, and hold him down on the outside till he gets out, thats what real fam do with there peoples...beans said, jay didnt even come visit him once, then on top of that jay told the judge to keep beans locked up because he dont want to be responsible for his beans he calls his family.....smh.....what most dont understand, is that its deeper than money and fame, when beans stopped kanye from getting robbed in brooklyn, that aint have nutting to do with money or fame, beans looked at ye like family, thats how family hold you down.....

Gotta Cosign this...

 

[beerisgood4ya]

Whoa chill nigga.......and Beans went to jail a few times before Jay moved on, him and Bey even went court to vouch for the nigga, but as Jay knew that Beans was unpredictable he couldn't keep it up.

Ask yourself this, you got good friends right? one of them keep fucking up and it starts to affect your life, are you really gonna let this one nigga pull your life down cause he cant get his shit together?

The fact is Jay made Beans a millionaire. Has any of your friends/fam ever done that for you? Beans mama moved out tha hood cause of Jay, his kids eatin better cause of Jay. On his own what is Beans doin? jumpin on Gunit bandwagon jus caus Banks and Yayo stay paid?

C'mon man, Beans fucked up.

to answer your question though.....beans of course been through multi problem with the law.....so did wayne with cash money, but they didnt say fuck wayne because he got into some trouble with the law......when kanye was about to get robbed in brooklyn, was niggas telling beans to not help kanye because beans on probation????? NO, beans still held his mans down even though he could have did alot of time if he would have shot that nigga for kanye.....Like i said, yahll niggas dont know how real niggas get down, jay a fake nigga no matter how yahll try to twist it.....

 

[runningwolf1980]

o ima dumb nigga? fuck you faggot....family is thicker than money and fame you fake nigga.....i wonder if lil wayne had signed to jay, then wayne got locked up like he did this year, would jay turn his back on him as well like he did beansl??? i bet if jay would turn his back on wayne if that situation occured, fake niggas like you would find ways to trash wayne, and ride jay dick......fucking faggots......

first off i wasnt talking to you but if tha shoe fits it will always offend.......fuck i gotta be gay for? cause i think beans is a fucking dumb s.o.b.? nigga had everything in the world handed to him and his "dumb nigga" mentality caused him to piss it all away.....you mad not everyone agrees with the venom you spit? fuck u nigga...

 

[DatNiggaB1]

to answer your question though.....beans of course been through multi problem with the law.....so did wayne with cash money, but they didnt say fuck wayne because he got into some trouble with the law......when kanye was about to get robbed in brooklyn, was niggas talking telling beans to not help kanye because beans on probation????? NO, beans still held his mans down even though he could have did alot of time if he would have shot that nigga for kanye.....Like i said, yahll niggas dont know how real niggas get down, jay a fake nigga no matter how yahll try to twist it.....

Goes both ways nigga, Beans a fake nigga for being willing to go jail for Kanye instead of staying out and grinding and taking care of kids. A real nigga would put his blood first.

 

[runningwolf1980]

Goes both ways nigga, Beans a fake nigga for being willing to go jail for Kanye instead of staying out and grinding and taking care of kids. A real nigga would put his blood first.

hold up now if you dont agree with his version of a "real nigga" then you gay breh.....

 

[beerisgood4ya]

first off i wasnt talking to you but if tha shoe fits it will always offend.......fuck i gotta be gay for? cause i think beans is a fucking dumb s.o.b.? nigga had everything in the world handed to him and his "dumb nigga" mentality caused him to piss it all away.....you mad not everyone agrees with the venom you spit? fuck u nigga...

jay stans stay side stepping shit when some body call there lame asses out.....yahll take on jay characteristics by being subliminal when talking to other men.....fucking clowns....and jay knew beans was a straight off the corner nigga when he signed him, he knew beans would be quick to bust your head, so why did jay ever sign him in the fucking first place then call him family if he knew all this shit from the jump??????? take jay dick out your mouth for a second and answer that, play boi.....