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Ishi;1726551 said:Can't say Ive heard people put Jay up to those people either and i know some jigga warriors myself but they stickto riding not to praising him up with Malcolm or MLK.
ibedamned;1727048 said:nah thats usually just pac fans
Fazeem Blackall;1727069 said:the Jay hovas Witnesses of Templar Jigga warriors are coming in full force lol...
tompetrez3;1727080 said:He cant be the rap god when eminem sold twice of what his old ass sold in less time.
jonlakadeadmic;1727087 said:what has god ever sold?
tompetrez3;1727098 said:Em outhustling a hustler
Fazeem Blackall;1727069 said:the Jay hovas Witnesses of Templar Jigga warriors are coming in full force lol...
ptowndonte;1727079 said:Nas is the Greatest of all time. And Fuck Prodigy before Tompetrez comes in this thread.
illogics;1727158 said:Em Net Worth > Jay's ?
Fazeem Blackall;1609222 said:Only Nas Haters and Jay Hova's Witness Templar Jigga Warriors of the 33rd degree would beleive that shit...
tompetrez3;1609079 said:he is sneak dissin nas on the low. im reading between the lines. im not a jigga warrior who is blinded by the diamonds he places ontop of bullshit. Jay Z is sneak dissing niggas on the low and mocking them. This is the same shit he did in 2001. When Nelly was talking about he was #1. DMX was about to have 5 straight #1. When Ja was #1 all summer When Eminem had #1 tour and Jada had #1 buzz instead ofger going at them niggas he went at Nas who was supposed to be "finished" while he was taking care of his dying mother. Jay Z picks on easy targets. we seen this shit last week with hammer. i heard beans talk about blastin him. i heard game call his wife a whore. he ignores that aggression and focus on those who seem to be weak. he thinking nas is down and out and depressed and broke. this is his opportunity to rewrite history about his battle record and rap legacy because we have 90s crackbabies and millenium meth babies who are about to view Kanye and Wayne as GOAT. Drake got the bitches and Eminem is the king of the white/crossover audience. a book? a duo with kanye west? a greatest hits cd before a j cole album. insecure much?
tompetrez3;1609153 said:everytime Jay Z eats Beyonce pussy he is tasting Marques Houston manhood and Ras B butt=Jay Z lost
tompetrez3;1609139 said:ok? now what? is that Jay Z strongest ammo? did he fuck Kelis too like Nas and half the NBA, NFL, NHL, MLB, FBS, FCS fucked beyonce.
tompetrez3;1609198 said:was that his stank breath whore of a wife wearing nas chain in the you owe me video. the same wife who fucked nas
tompetrez3;1609280 said:beyonce been womb been scraped more than a gumbo pot. Jay Z probably the only nigga she never had an abortion with
tompetrez3;1609312 said:Jay Z still losing sleep over ether. Pac still haunts him from the grave and give him nightmares. Maybe he should go get in the bed with Beyonce, MH and Raz B
tompetrez3;1609330 said:P dissed him back. Neither Biggie or Jay Z said shit back to Pac when he was dissin them.
tompetrez3;1609333 said:just like how Jay Z never responded to Mos Def, Game and Beans
rapmastermind;1606597 said:Jay can't re-write History. Hip Hop already spoken. NaS Bodied him on Ether and his comment of Em Bodying him on "Renegades" hasn't changed either. Jay needs to just take his L and move on. He already admitted he lost on "Blueprint 2" album. And whoever said "Ether" beat was trash is crazy. That beat goes crazy hard and gets you mad hype.
rapmastermind;1606638 said:Content wise? How was "Takeover" better? Jay had nothing on NaS. 1st to try and excuse sampling his voice he says. "You made it a hot line, I made it a hot song". So Jay, "The World Is Yours" is not a hot song? Or "Represent" is not a hot song?. The worst part was he said "You was using it wrong". How was he using the words he wrote wrong? Jay lost points with that line. Then he said "You had 1 hot album ever 10 year average". Well "It Was Written" outsold Jay Debut in 96 and was way more popular than "Reasonable Doubt" so at the very worst NaS had 2 hot albums. "I am" still sold very well also. "NaStradamus" is the only real album you could say NaS dropped the ball on that decade. So Jay was reaching. NaS on the other hand hit Jay with Biggie and Pac's legacy.
Jay did bite Biggie's rhymes, Jay did study NaS blueprint. "Ether" had it all, jokes, hard hitting rhymes, rough beat. NaS won the battle cause his diss record said things about Jay that most of his foes were scared to say at that time. "Takeover" had more effect on Mobb Deep overall. Also "Supa Ugly" was horrible. How are you going to reply with a mixtape cut? using someone else beat talking about baby moms? That Kiss and Tell ish don't win battles. I'm glad NaS never responded to "Supa Ugly" cause that would of validated it. "Ether" still stands as the best record from that battle.
sionb55;1607318 said:LOL @ jay-z tryna erase the past. these new 2010 niggas or niggas born after 95 might co-sign this Bullshit but us older niggas who seen his comeup know the truth. this shit needs to be in the "Negro Please" section of the XXL. even in terms of song quality the takeover isnt seeing Ether. Camel DO KNOW that Ether almost ended his career right ? come on, the shit that was on Ether was sooo venomous it was intense. Niggas had a reason after that to shoot Nas for that shit lets not even front. Create a poll of the MOST epic & damaging beef tracks of all time & i can assure u that Hit Em Up, Ether & No Vaseline are gonna round up top 3.
Jay aint ever won a battle in his life.... im sorry fanboys but somebody gotta pull his card.
The sad thing about this is that in 10 years niggas are gonna co-sign this mess along w/ super ugly SMMFH. sooo waaack.
georgia boi;1607481 said:What exactly is factual in "Takeover"?
- He sampled Nas voice FACT, you was using it wrong OPINION
- Went from top 10 to not mentioned at all ----- OPINION
- You been in this 10, I been in this 5----- LIE (he's counting Nas' first appearance on wax, but goes on to count when his first album dropped instead of when he dropped his first verse)
- That's one hot album every 10 year average--- OPINION (I hope he wasn't using The Source to formulate this opinion b/c IWW got the same rating as Reasonable Doubt, and I Am was rated higher. He called one those albums "ehhh" and the other one "doo")
The only other facts in the verse was regarding Nas' street cred specifically the "tec on the dresser" and "you witnessed it from your folks' pad" lines.
Llahsram;1607651 said:Nas started trends from "Ether"
The Camal joke
Using the word "Stan" (It was Eminem's song but Nas used it as a diss)
Nobody says you got "Takeovered" they say you got "Ethered"
tompetrez3;1608176 said:Fuck Jay Z. straight up. when i say this dude needs to see a shrink im not trying to make a quick joke for the IC. i mean this shit. behind the multi millionaire rapper is a sensitive little boy who has tons of unresolved issues. he loses on the basis that 9 years later he is still making excuses for himself. u jigga warriors should be embarrassed of your goat on this interview. he played himself. i cannot believe a 46 year old man with endless resources and the world on his fingertips carries himself like this.
if you had a curfew when ether dropped...please shut the fuck up your opinion is invalid
if you wasnt old enough to buy smokes or drink when ether dropped...please shut the fuck up your opinion is invalid
because if you was really a hip hop head in the fall of 2001 you know that dank overcast of pure darkness that was ether rocked Jay Z, Rocafella records, Def Jam and every listener. Ether was never questioned. Ether was never frown uponed. Ether was never dissed. Ether was purely Ether. it wasnt a sneak diss like takeover. it wasnt a quickstrike diss like supa ugly. Ether was a fuckin Ether. calculated. powerful. intense. intoxicating. strong. impactful with long term effects. Nas killed Jay Z, Rocafella and Def Jam with a slow painful death.
He says ether was childish lines. really nigga? like clowning prodigy's height and calling him a ballerina. he called nas a faggot. called him lame. teasing him about sleeping with his baby mother. and jay z was 36 at the time spitting these lines
ok ok so yeah nas career was headed to the end. 1 hot album every 10 year average. he fucked carmen. Now what? whatelse is takeover? just a weak ass track with jay z dissing p not defending the fact in which p was dissing him in the first place. takeover is overrated because it was jay z showing off being wreckless mentioning names. he finally wasnt taking the bitch rouwte with those sublims. the crazy thing about that previous statement is that takeover was Jay Z last time calling out a rapper by name. why you think he stopped?
and speaking of P. Jay Z needs to stop speaking on P. Prodigy been the fucking HNIC/GOAT he dont need validiation from the camel. 3 words=HELL ON EARTH. man fuck jay z forreal though
you niggas need to see the bigger picture here. jay z is being a messy broad by bringing this shit up talking about Nas and P. P is in the slammer and Nas is doing him. Why in the fuck is Jay Z speaking on these men who aint worried about his bitch ass. nigga being spiteful. ill tell you why. its thepresent day competion that is toppling over his head that got him speaking on P/Nas. This is the same shit that happened 10 years ago when Ja, Nelly, DMX and Eminem was selling more records and getting more attention than him. Them niggas was doing bigger numbers than Jay Z. Jay Z looked at nas as an easy target to show that he still had it. Now we got Lil Wayne, Eminem, Drake, Kanye West as bigger names and bigger buzz than him and now he is looking for someone else to mock to show that he is still a force. this is crazy disrespectful and a bitch move by jay z even speaking on these niggas. he figures nas is down and out again after the divorce and child support. i wouldnt fuck with Nas right now. he has NOTHING to lose as far as his legacy goes. He cemented it when he dropped ether. im smh thinking about a 2nd Round of Nas vs Jay Z because your boy Jigga gonna end up like the million dollar baby. forreal. I KNOW DAMN WELL HE CANT FUCK WITH PRODIGY. JAY Z DOES NOT WANT THAT. maaaaaaaaaaan. Bey needs to fuck this dude or something because he is barking up the wrong trees. im peeping game like a real nigga this isnt a interview. this is sneak dissin. this is how the last beef popped off. Jay Z talking wreckless trying to prove himself. Put a muzzle on this camel
DatNiggaB1;1727859 said:Jay gave himself that name. He saying he is the best MC, the God MC. Just so happens his name is Jay and Gods name is Jehovah.
I personally don't feel it.
I'm a big Jay fan but to me blasphemy is blasphemy. I've seen Jay-Z live so many times and when the crowd is chanting Hova, it's a great atmoshpere, but I never join in.
It doesn't help that my mother is a Jehovahs Witness. She would slap my old ass if she heard me refer to mortal man as Jehovah. lol
illogics;1727158 said:Em Net Worth > Jay's ?