The Indy/Int'l Wrestling Thread - ROH Final Battle ‘17, M Dalton Castle def. Cody Rhodes for Title

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I love the new AJ Styles, he just needs to not be losing and if he is losing have him lose in non clean fashion to make him look strong.
 
Samoa Joe is still very over with the hardcore fanbase btw. He needs a legit well thought out run again at the title now, and not later.
 
KingGivBiz;5963919 said:
Samoa Joe is still very over with the hardcore fanbase btw. He needs a legit well thought out run again at the title now, and not later.

What I'd like to see is AJ win the title at BFG and given a dominant reign for a few months. Then Samoa Joe getting dominant within the X Division once again. Leading to Joe becoming X division champ sometime next spring and cashing the title in for a championship shot against AJ at Destination X next summer with Joe winning the prize. Joe Vs. the new AJ Styles could put a whole different dynamic on that old feud for real.

 
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I never liked the BFG series because point systems get confusing and then they used to do mom-televised BFG series matches. I hate that shit, I hate 90% of TNA's gimmicks. I guess it's my biases. I believe AJ is going to win and his new character will get vindication. Oh and not having Crimson in there is lame as hell, James Storm not being in there is equally lame. Fuck Frankie Kazarian and "Joseph Park".

As far as the new Main Event Mafia, well I didnt care for the old one. I think it's time for Sting & Angle to move on, let some young guys take them down. Besides it doesn't make sense because anyone who joins already guilty of leaving Sting hanging. If they use the new MEM to give rubs that would be dope.

I think it's a waste that they spent all that time on Angle giving runs to Briscoe just to chuck Wes into irrelevancy within Aces & 8s, I expected him to be a breakout star but *shrugs*.
 
There was so much wrong with this episode I don't know where to begin. I'll stick with the most obvious transgression of Suicide being "outed": I can't believe they did that.

I did like the A&8s threatening Sabin, but of course they went and made that useless with the title change.

For all the kids keeping score:

Petey Williams return - wasted

Chris Sabin return - wasted

Suicide return - wasted

And what do we have for it? Nothing.

The swerve at the end was cool enough and I was taken by surprise but it brings confusion with Aries being in the BFGS and skipping the entire process.
 
Yeah basically derailing a goddamn useless video game character who everybody knew the identity of all the time in favor of giving TJ Perkins himself some shine was a really bad idea. Not.

Petey Williams = boring outside of in ring skills, Chris Sabin = boring outside of in ring skills, Austin Aries = money as an overall enteratainer. It's as simple as that.

I prefer Aries winning at Destination X and facing AJ Styles at BFG over the predictable scenario of AJ Styles beating Bully Ray at BFG. Much better main event draw.
 
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Who do you mean "everybody"? If everyone knew who he was there was no point in Hogan introducing him.

I don't have an issue with Suicide being killed, I have an issue win how it was done. Unmasking characters should be more dramatic and meaningful. This also doesn't put Perkins over because he looks like a chump right out the gate.

Your personal opinions about Williams & Sabin aside TNA acted like they were BIG returns and important characters just to shit on them, for no reason.

 
Everybody = fans of TNA aka the only people that watch Impact Wrestling. Suicide's identity was as big a secret as Curry Man's (SPOILER the guy behind Curry Man also played Suicide a few times too). It's a novelty character adapted from a damn video game we're not talking about Mil Mascaras here. It puts TJ Perkins over because now he'll be used on the roster with his actual identity.

Petey Williams has been back full time for 2 MONTHS and storyline wise there is no use for him right now. Sabin has been back for less than 2 months and ALREADY has been champion once more since his return. How about we see what they do with them going forward before jumping to these conclusions. So far they have been used adequately.

You want to talk about shitty moments in this episode? how about we talk about how Gut Check needs to be given the axe already because most qualifying matches are boring and filled with green in ring work. Skidmarks from Tough Enough Vs. a Batista wannabe was no exception. Threw the momentum of the episode off for the few minutes it was actually on. Or how about that Storm/Gunner segment with Robbie E and Big Brother guy used to set up an unexciting tag team feud?

Those were far greater offenses than an entertaining story built around the X division and used to put the one main eventer people have been bitching about no longer being in the main event back INTO the main event.
 
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Meh. Austin Aries is that nigga. Daniels and Kaz need to get those tag titles tho. I want a AMW vs triple X cage type match for it tho. Make it mean something.
 
i agree with parts of each of the last 3 of 4 posts, i say that to say, outside of austin aries bein that nigga, this week was a turrible episode
 
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dis week of TNAss sucked dick!

the commentators suck & cant sell a gatdam thing in the ring

the x-division wuz buried in a way cuz they had bully ray shittin on em

the aces & eights are gittin to be too much plus they filled wit flabby n sick niggaz!

& tna feels da need to have a nwo-like stable erry 6 muthaphukkin months!
 
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smh, showed him as tj perkins last week, why not just keep that instead of callin him MANIC

Wonderful question. Unmask dude just to put him back under the same mask the very next week.

MAYBE it's not the same guy, I'm watching TNA right now with no spoilers so....
 
Aries/Sabin was GOAT, they basically just showed why the triple threat concept needs to die.

I prefer the old school cradle shock finish from Sabin as well. I can't say enough good things about the match.
 

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