The Indy/Int'l Wrestling Thread - ROH Final Battle ‘17, M Dalton Castle def. Cody Rhodes for Title

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they said during the show tazz family was hit by the hurricane thats fucked up

for my first time watchin tna in almost a year it was decent i used to be a big fan of tna i just hate how hogan started runnin it when he took over anway im interested to see who else is in aces n eights (nWo masked biker edition)
 
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yes all night. TNA ppvs have been >>>> WWE PPvs all year

Watching Chavo and Supermex vs Kaz and Daniels right now

Samoa Joe vs magnus was probably the second best match tho.. minus the main event.. which I only caught the last 5 minute of.
 
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Scott Steiner is suing TNA again…

This time, Steiner claims TNA allowed wrestler Jeff Hardy to enter the ring during a match last year in Mount Pleasant, Mich., while under the influence of alcohol and possibly drugs.

According to the lawsuit filed in Davidson County Circuit Court, Steiner suffered nerve damage in his shoulder and neck as well as a bicep injury due to what he called Hardy’s reckless, drunken wrestling.

 
Some great wrestling on the show last night (Bully/Aries, Daniels/AJ, even the god Roode with that scrub Meth Hardy). But there was very little story progression. OK Chavo got really hurt (like anyone cares) and SuperMex vs. Morgan is being set up as a monster vs. monster type thing. Personally I don't care because all of it is just further sidelining Joey Ryan.

The Bully Ray/Hogan angle is wack but nothing really happened there either. Brooke comes out for basically nothing. Please get the Hogans off TV. Nothing really happened with Aces & 8's. They lost their match and attacked Roode as they have before. That's about it. A lot of these ppv's in the Impact Zone always bring good wrestling but no real progress or development in terms of storytelling outside the ring.

Everything outside the ring action seems superfluous and rushed when it comes to IZ ppv's. I'm glad they're cutting back on ppv's. They only have one TV show they should have 6 at most but cutting down to 9 is a good start. Provided they know how to properly use the time gaps in between events and step up their build up game. Make IMPACT and the ppv's seem more symbiotic but at the same time different.

Now they could take more of them on the road and get real paying crowds that give a genuine fuck about the product to attend. That way we also get more fluid storytelling progression because there is more time to build up and create real payoffs at the ppv. So that they end up feeling like the big shows they should feel like and not a longer episode of Impact Wrestling that you pay for.
 
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broddie;5243211 said:
Some great wrestling on the show last night (Bully/Aries, Daniels/AJ, even the god Roode with that scrub Meth Hardy). But there was very little story progression. OK Chavo got really hurt (like anyone cares) and SuperMex vs. Morgan is being set up as a monster vs. monster type thing. Personally I don't care because all of it is just further sidelining Joey Ryan.

The Bully Ray/Hogan angle is wack but nothing really happened there either. Brooke comes out for basically nothing. Please get the Hogans off TV. Nothing really happened with Aces & 8's. They lost their match and attacked Roode as they have before. That's about it. A lot of these ppv's in the Impact Zone always bring good wrestling but no real progress or development in terms of storytelling outside the ring.

Everything outside the ring action seems superfluous and rushed when it comes to IZ ppv's. I'm glad they're cutting back on ppv's. They only have one TV show they should have 6 at most but cutting down to 9 is a good start. Provided they know how to properly use the time gaps in between events and step up their build up game. Make IMPACT and the ppv's seem more symbiotic but at the same time different.

Now they could take more of them on the road and get real paying crowds that give a genuine fuck about the product to attend. That way we also get more fluid storytelling progression because there is more time to build up and create real payoffs at the ppv. So that they end up feeling like the big shows they should feel like and not a longer episode of Impact Wrestling that you pay for.

Great analysis. I agree the whole Aces and 8s thing isnt going anywhere it seems. hogan vs Bully Ray has potential but only if Brooke turns heel with Bully over Hogan and Bully becomes a heel champ, but he seems to have made the full face turn. Aries needs to be champ again as a heel.

Eventually TNA needs to say fuck it and put the belt on Matt Morgan for a year after Morgans runs trhough the entire roster like he's Goldberg. I mean I would just feed AJ styles week after week to Morgan for starters sinc ethey aint gonna do shit with AJ,.

I dont need to see Morgan feud with Supermex again (or Abyss) but him vs Bully would be a cool fresh feud. Joey Ryans and matt morgan is too random and makes no sense.. I need to see both guys doing bigger things in the company than wrestler each other.

So tired of AJ Styles vs Daniels also. Not enough fresh talent or feuds in the heavyweight scene in TNA.
 
KingGivBiz;5246377 said:
Great analysis. I agree the whole Aces and 8s thing isnt going anywhere it seems. hogan vs Bully Ray has potential but only if Brooke turns heel with Bully over Hogan and Bully becomes a heel champ, but he seems to have made the full face turn. Aries needs to be champ again as a heel.

Eventually TNA needs to say fuck it and put the belt on Matt Morgan for a year after Morgans runs trhough the entire roster like he's Goldberg. I mean I would just feed AJ styles week after week to Morgan for starters sinc ethey aint gonna do shit with AJ,.

I dont need to see Morgan feud with Supermex again (or Abyss) but him vs Bully would be a cool fresh feud. Joey Ryans and matt morgan is too random and makes no sense.. I need to see both guys doing bigger things in the company than wrestler each other.

So tired of AJ Styles vs Daniels also. Not enough fresh talent or feuds in the heavyweight scene in TNA.

I don't ever want to see Hulk Hogan wrestle again. Let sleeping dogs lie. If they wanted to save this angle they'd have Brooke really be with Aries and Aries as Aces & 8's leader. They were playing Bully and sidelining him to distract him from wanting to go after Devon and Aces & 8's. Have Aries' buddy Kevin Steen as the VP once his contract with ROH is up in a couple of months and that shit could maybe be worked with.

Put Magnus in a program with Devon for the TV title when he comes back during their UK tour and make him the new TV champ. However Aries gets the world heavyweight championship from Hardy at Lockdown so then you still have a champ in A&8's and YOU also get to build up one of the TNA's most promising younger guys. But Prichard and company just aren't that smart.

Still better than Russo and don't get me wrong I can't even sit through WWE shows anymore at least TNA keeps me tuned in for the whole show. They got me back into watching wrestling regularly this year after a 10 year hiatus due to their awesome Bound for Glory series. But they don't have the smarts to really keep this biker gang angle popping cause it's been dragging since Bound for Glory for months now.

Matt Morgan with the belt would be a disaster IMO. He's just not that good and even though I like his new gimmick more than anything he's done before his time has already passed. They do have main event level talent they just don't know what to do with them. There's no reason why Joe and Christopher Daniels for example aren't in the World Heavyweight Title conversation.

I say keep Bully/Aries going up till Genesis and put Meth Hardy to feud with Daniels for a couple of months cause he needs a great heel to carry his feuds. Maybe even have Chris get a 1 month reign before losing it in February to Hardy in a rematch and then Hardy loses to Aries during Lockdown. They have possibilities but their is still a great lack of vision it seems with the bookers over there.

 
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broddie;5247625 said:
KingGivBiz;5246377 said:
Great analysis. I agree the whole Aces and 8s thing isnt going anywhere it seems. hogan vs Bully Ray has potential but only if Brooke turns heel with Bully over Hogan and Bully becomes a heel champ, but he seems to have made the full face turn. Aries needs to be champ again as a heel.

Eventually TNA needs to say fuck it and put the belt on Matt Morgan for a year after Morgans runs trhough the entire roster like he's Goldberg. I mean I would just feed AJ styles week after week to Morgan for starters sinc ethey aint gonna do shit with AJ,.

I dont need to see Morgan feud with Supermex again (or Abyss) but him vs Bully would be a cool fresh feud. Joey Ryans and matt morgan is too random and makes no sense.. I need to see both guys doing bigger things in the company than wrestler each other.

So tired of AJ Styles vs Daniels also. Not enough fresh talent or feuds in the heavyweight scene in TNA.

I don't ever want to see Hulk Hogan wrestle again.

Matt Morgan with the belt would be a disaster IMO. He's just not that good and even though I like his new gimmick more than anything he's done before his time has already passed. They do have main event level talent they just don't know what to do with them. There's no reason why Joe and Christopher Daniels for example aren't in the World Heavyweight Title conversation.

They have possibilities but their is still a great lack of vision it seems with the bookers over there.

COSIGN.

 

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