The Hypocrisy of Abortion and Child Support

[Fooley]

yeah but its the same species as the host and its a direct result of the reproductive process

it still fits the definition of a parasite. And one species of spider dies for her young to live. I don't know the particular species, but her offspring eats her alive to live.

 

[5th Letter]

im sure when they say that its because they CAN, but they shouldnt HAVE to take care of a child alone. it takes 2 to make a baby.

at the end of the day as i said. you get her pregnant then your responsibilty. now women are fortunate enough to choose if they want the baby or not because they are the one most effected by pregnancy.

they're the one who carry the baby for 9 months

their the one who go through 20+ plus hours of labour

They are the ones who have to breast feed and go through aching nipples

they are the ones who have to lose all the baby weight and regain a sense of self

they are the ones who could possible have to deal with post partum depression

and they are the one who HAVE to be there for atleast 18 years of the kids life.

they deserve to have that choice.

now would it be NICE for a woman to take account the father view upon whether or not to have this baby? yes

but it is far from necessary.

Yes it takes two to make a baby but you seem to miss the point. You said it takes TWO to make the baby, yet you are implying that the women role is more important than the man, like he didn't plant that seed in her. However THIS is the point you cant seem to understand or dont want to understand and that is when a woman gets pregnant, she can choose whether or not to keep the baby it's hardly the man's choice, this is something women love to preach (it's their body so they have the right to choose, so who cares if the man agrees or not) yet none of that "it takes two" rhetoric applies in that situation, they only bring it up if the man acts up.

All that stuff you're saying doesn't apply to what we're discussing here.

 

[almighty breeze]

^^^ dont tell her that tho. she managed to change the discussion to the size of a womens vagina and the pain her nipples go through
it was amazingly done

 

[UPTOWN]

forcing a man to pay child support is different than a forcing a woman to have a baby...

and when i said that life is unfair earlier i was referring to the nature of child birth...women really hold all the cards because it's our bodies and our well being that is effected...

you do realize that mens bodies go thru stressful situations trying to hold down jobs to pay child support right?? LOL .... if a nigga work at ups ... that extra overtime that he's working to pay child support and not lose his home goes on for 18 years ... women will be back out at the club in less than a month of having a baby. not to mention them not having to account for what they spend the money on. smh at "independent" women using child support money to pay their rent

 

[digitalgrl87]

you do realize that mens bodies go thru stressful situations trying to hold down jobs to pay child support right?? LOL .... if a nigga work at ups ... that extra overtime that he's working to pay child support and not lose his home goes on for 18 years ... women will be back out at the club in less than a month of having a baby. not to mention them not having to account for what they spend the money on. smh at "independent" women using child support money to pay their rent

u cannot compare a woman carrying a child to term and giving birth to sad child to a man working over time be hide a computer desk or wendys... Lol.... shame on you...and in most states how much you pay in child support depends on how much is your income...and there are ways around it... the average nigga is not paying tiger woods numbers in child support...

and it doesn't matter what she spends the money on as long as YOUR child is being well token care of...meaning he/she is healthy, happy, and doesn't need/want for anything you have no need to worry about it... if you think she's not taking care of her responsibilities sue for custody....or you could just avoid this entire situation and abstain from having unprotected sex.

its funny...do yall think the woman has it any easier...she's stuck raising a child basically on her own too...and ok she chose that path but it takes two to make a baby....so stop having unprotected sex or stfu...

 

[Fooley]

u cannot compare a woman carrying a child to term and giving birth to sad child to a man working over time be hide a computer desk or wendys... Lol.... shame on you...and in most states how much you pay in child support depends on how much is your income...and there are ways around it... the average nigga is not paying tiger woods numbers in child support...

and it doesn't matter what she spends the money on as long as YOUR child is being well token care of...meaning he/she is healthy, happy, and doesn't need/want for anything you have no need to worry about it... if you think she's not taking care of her responsibilities sue for custody....or you could just avoid this entire situation and abstain from having unprotected sex.

You should be telling women who want abortions this. Remember, life is unfair.

And you act like child birth is the worst thing ever. There are shots to ease the pain. There are C sections. GTFOH. And it still don't matter, a man is working hours just to give a paycheck to the result of decision he had no say in. That's involuntary servitude.

 

[Knives Amilli]

]u cannot compare a woman carrying a child to term and giving birth to sad child to a man working over time be hide a computer desk or wendys... Lol.... [/B]shame on you...and in most states how much you pay in child support depends on how much is your income...and there are ways around it... the average nigga is not paying tiger woods numbers in child support...

and it doesn't matter what she spends the money on as long as YOUR child is being well token care of...meaning he/she is healthy, happy, and doesn't need/want for anything you have no need to worry about it... if you think she's not taking care of her responsibilities sue for custody....or you could just avoid this entire situation and abstain from having unprotected sex.

I think it's kind of bullshit that women are throwing around this whole "NOTHING YOU DO COMPARES TO GIVING BIRTH!!!" thing...considering that men DIE EARLIER IN LIFE due to a lifetime of having to put food on the table for some little nigga we might not have even wanted in the first place.

 

[jay83]

Well the pro-death side is also hypocritical in the fact that they will call Christians out for pushing their "religion" on others but when you show them indisputable SCIENTIFIC evidence that a fetus is a human being and that ending the life of an unborn child is KILLING A HUMAN BEING they come up with a bunch of hypocritical ignoramus excuses. All-the-sudden they begin to argue religion...only they dont call it religion they call it "philosophy" and say shit like, "well thats between her and God." GEE thought we werent arguing religion LOL

You are ALL hypocritical. People who are against abortion but wont adopt. People who are against welfare and public school and charters. People who are against abortion but once the child gets here "FUCK EM." The pro-Death side is hypocritical and the pro-life side is hypocritical.

This particular issue is just another in a long line of hypocritical bullshit beliefs bitches hold. We could write a fucking Almanac on the hypocrisy of bitches in America.

I was just about to post somethin like that. The same people marching and protesting against abortion will be the same ones talking about the death penalty when lil Johnny who had no positive role model growing up decides to shoot somebody.

Its bad to kill him when hes in the womb, but please fry his ass when he gets older.

 

[the_underground]

With the exception of religious folks, most people in America support a woman's right to have an abortion. When a chick goes and has an abortion, people never question it. As a matter of fact some even claim that that the chick is behaving in a responsible manner and rectifying a mistake. We except abortion as a reality of life and would never force a woman to be a mother against her will.

Men on the other hand aren't afforded the same luxury, rights, and esteem. No matter how the guy feels in the matter. He may be forced to become a parent against his will. Suddenly the same arguments made in support of abortion, have no validity concerning men.

Single motherhood is a prime example of women not facing their responsibilities and epitomizes their selfish, hypocritical, and irrational natures. Why in the name of God would a woman bear children with a man she isn't married too? How is it that a guy isn't good enough to be your husband, but then he's good enough to be the leading male figure in your child's life? What makes you think that if isn't willing to c ommit to you, he's going to all of a sudden turn into Ward Cleaver and be a responsible father? Single mothers think it's a great and wonderful thing to have these kids. They're under the delusion that they're doing to the "right thing." When in actuality women are having these kids either to keep the guy or they're just straight being vindictive. Why bring a child into a world with a guy who doesn't want you other than just to cause misery and discomfort in the next man's life?

Then there's the state sanctioned extortion which is called "child support." I fully support a woman's right to have an abortion. Nobody should be forced to have children they don't want. I also support a man's right not be a father. Some will argue that men have a responsibility to their children. That is a specious argument at best. Follow the logic:

1) Woman have 11 forms of birth control available to them. Men have two.

2) Women make the final decision in whether or not to have sex. If your having sex against your will that's a felony and you have the person arrested.

3) Women UNILATERALLY DECIDE ON WHETHER OR NOT TO CONTINUE WITH THE PREGNANCY!!!

So ladies, with that being stated, how are men responsible for the children THAT YOU DECIDED TO HAVE OF YOU OWN FREE WILL??? Why do I have to subsidize your maternal instincts? Men should only have to pay child support if the children were born in wedlock or if the chick can prove in court that he agreed to financially support the children.

Up until recently, I used to feel like the majority of people, that guys who didn't take care of their kids were scumbags and one of the lowest forms of life. Then I thought about it. If we respect a woman's right not to be a mother, then why don't we support man's right not be a father, have money extorted from him, and be thrown into debtors prison for not capitulating to the extortion.

Here's a link to a guy in Michigan that's fighting to have men have the same reproductive rights as women, http://www.cnn.com/2006/LAW/03/08/father...index.html If he wins, then women will have be something they rarely ever are, responsible.

You made a lot of points, and I'm not sure which ones you want us to respond to.

 

[Maximus Rex]

Bump.

 

[MoneyPowerRespect]

Why in the name of God would a woman bear children with a man she isn't married too? How is it that a guy isn't good enough to be your husband, but then he's good enough to be the leading male figure in your child's life? What makes you think that if isn't willing to c ommit to you, he's going to all of a sudden turn into Ward Cleaver and be a responsible father? Single mothers think it's a great and wonderful thing to have these kids. They're under the delusion that they're doing to the "right thing." When in actuality women are having these kids either to keep the guy or they're just straight being vindictive. Why bring a child into a world with a guy who doesn't want you other than just to cause misery and discomfort in the next man's life?

Nobody should be forced to have children they don't want. I also support a man's right not be a father. Some will argue that men have a responsibility to their children. That is a specious argument at best. Follow the logic:

So ladies, with that being stated, how are men responsible for the children THAT YOU DECIDED TO HAVE OF YOU OWN FREE WILL??? Why do I have to subsidize your maternal instincts? Men should only have to pay child support if the children were born in wedlock or if the chick can prove in court that he agreed to financially support the children.

why would a man purposely get a woman pregnant just so that she can have a piece of him?

why would he not let it be known that he doesn't want any children.?

why in the name of the father, son, and holy ghost would a man lie to get in your pants JUST to impregnate and leave?? these are questions that i ask. i completely and whole-heartedly feel as though men should be given the option whether or not they want to co-parent a chid with whom he was not in a relationship with. if a man is in a relationship with a woman, he should be held accountable. he knew what he was doing- period. i believe that some women have kids out of spite and because they want to 'keep' him. however, this is not always the case. some women actually want families with these people that they get pregnant by. sometimes it's the women who don't want the men after certain things come to the light. i think that casual sex runs so rampant that people don't think about such consequences as pregnancy because abortion is legal and marriage is put on the back-burner. not every woman is like that.

 

[Maximus Rex]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JBk6sfC4V2o

Children: Woman's Ultimate Weapon

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vImyKp5M5OQ

Dude Slips His Girl an Abortion Pill. Question, how is this any different than a chick claiming a dude is a father to baby knowing the block had her in doggystyle, how is it any different than lying about being on birth control or saying she's infertile, or taking the goo out of rubber, or spitting the goo (after not swallowing like she was suppose to,) into a turkey baster and giving herself a ratchet ass fertilization. Or going to the sperm bank, getting the nut and using it without the man's knowledge. The only difference in what dude did and what millions of women do (without question mind you,) is the location of the baby.