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The forgotten round of Nas vs. Jay-Z: Blueprint 2 vs. Last Real N*gga Alive

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Not that this topic will get any attention at all, but you could have at least put the videos up.



On topic, I don't really see the comparison. Blueprint 2 is a weak diss. LRNA is basically Nas' account of how their beef came to be.
 
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Last Real Nigga broke down a lot of history, and was a great story track. Not a diss song, but a real song. BP2 was just... mean. Jay's best shots at Nas were all in this song.

'Cause the nigga wear a coofie, it don't mean that he bright

'Cause you don't understand him, it don't mean that he nice

It just means you don't understand all the bullshit that he write

Is it 'Oochie Wally Wally' or is it 'One Mic'?

Is it 'Black Girl Lost' or shorty owe you for ice?

I get the spoils 'cause the victor is me

You're an actor, you're not who you're depicted to be

The street dreamin', all y'all niggas livin' through me

I gave you life when niggas was forgettin' you emcee

I'm a legend, you should take a picture with me

You should be happy to be in my presence, I should charge you a fee

I'm Big Dog, Glenn Rob, listen, God, you a flea

An' the little homey Jungle is a garden to me



I like both equally for different reasons. Makes it that much harder to decide.
 
The last real nigga alive was checkmate in that battle, Jay talking about going at him annually and pay per view events, Nas destroyed him with Ether and LRNA was his fatality
 
Not taking anything away from "Last Real" because that shit was crazy dope, but "Ether" was the knockout and everything after that was just Nas bullying dude. I used to laugh at how bad Nas use to son dude just for the fun of it.

"Jehovah witness, him and his co-defendants, I eat 'em like lucky charms

With 2% low fat milk, 5% pro-black built"

"First of all this is Nas, I'm a braveheart veteran,

and you already know who I'm better than"

"Even Jigga want the crown, how that sound?

poor thing"

"Feel I'm who you supposed to be, real I know it hurts you

Soldiers approach you, you want to squash it, you older than most dudes

Although Nas did you and your whole crew"

"I was Scarface, Jay was Manolo

It hurt me when I had to kill him and his whole squad for dolo"

"Ask another rapper, how it feels to lose his whole gangsta"

etc.

Jay was letting dude completely destroy his character and was slowly losing his spot as a force in Hip-Hop. Then Jay started releasing those wackass pop albums and stopped caring about lyrics and it sealed the deal. Dun wasn't even Hip-Hop anymore. He was now a pop artist.

In the words of Cam (who also got at Jay), "you can fool the rest of the world, long as NY know."
 
Blueprint 2 is Jay's best diss record towards Nas. Jay released 3 disses on Nas and none made the impact of "Ether", in fact 2 of them were released AFTER "Ether" dropped.

Last Real Nigga Alive wasn't really a diss record, it was a story that just happened to have disses in it. He never made another whole song for Jay, just lines here and there. So "Stillmatic Freestyle" & "Ether" were the only released diss records from Nas towards Jay.
 
NothingButTheTruth;5325833 said:
Not taking anything away from "Last Real" because that shit was crazy dope, but "Ether" was the knockout and everything after that was just Nas bullying dude. I used to laugh at how bad Nas use to son dude just for the fun of it.

"Jehovah witness, him and his co-defendants, I eat 'em like lucky charms

With 2% low fat milk, 5% pro-black built"

"First of all this is Nas, I'm a braveheart veteran,

and you already know who I'm better than"

"Even Jigga want the crown, how that sound?

poor thing"

"Feel I'm who you supposed to be, real I know it hurts you

Soldiers approach you, you want to squash it, you older than most dudes

Although Nas did you and your whole crew"

"I was Scarface, Jay was Manolo

It hurt me when I had to kill him and his whole squad for dolo"

"Ask another rapper, how it feels to lose his whole gangsta"

etc.

Jay was letting dude completely destroy his character and was slowly losing his spot as a force in Hip-Hop. Then Jay started releasing those wackass pop albums and stopped caring about lyrics and it sealed the deal. Dun wasn't even Hip-Hop anymore. He was now a pop artist.

In the words of Cam (who also got at Jay), "you can fool the rest of the world, long as NY know."
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You giving Nas a little too much credit here. He didn't really destroy Jay's career. Even after Ether crushed Jay in the battle, Jay was still selling millions. And all this pop music is just another example of Jay bandwagon riding. Hip Hop and R&B in general have become a lot more pop sounding. Jay has just incorporated that into his music to stay relevant.

 
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Mr.LV;5325942 said:
"I got my mojo back baby oh behave"-Jay-Z

Jay was having fun with this track
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naw Jay was laughing to keep himself from crying, that nigga was hurt deep in his soul.
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I thought so too the first time I heard it til the 2nd verse. Don't tell me he wasn't spittin truth in the beginning.
 
Jay's blueprint 2 song in my opinion was further indication that he lost to me. The whole song this nigga came off like feelings were caught. Nigga spent most of the song coppin pleas and being angry at the fans for thinking ether was harder. After you cried at hot 97 and the blame game went from everything from fans to his mom, blueprint 2 was the wrong approach.

Nas came off as a guy who was really on some "I ain't mean to fuck you up but you forced my hand" father shit on LRNA when I hear it. Definately takeover was the better try for jay
 
NothingButTheTruth;5325833 said:
Not taking anything away from "Last Real" because that shit was crazy dope, but "Ether" was the knockout and everything after that was just Nas bullying dude. I used to laugh at how bad Nas use to son dude just for the fun of it.

"Jehovah witness, him and his co-defendants, I eat 'em like lucky charms

With 2% low fat milk, 5% pro-black built"

"First of all this is Nas, I'm a braveheart veteran,

and you already know who I'm better than"

"Even Jigga want the crown, how that sound?

poor thing"

"Feel I'm who you supposed to be, real I know it hurts you

Soldiers approach you, you want to squash it, you older than most dudes

Although Nas did you and your whole crew"

"I was Scarface, Jay was Manolo

It hurt me when I had to kill him and his whole squad for dolo"

"Ask another rapper, how it feels to lose his whole gangsta"

etc.

Jay was letting dude completely destroy his character and was slowly losing his spot as a force in Hip-Hop. Then Jay started releasing those wackass pop albums and stopped caring about lyrics and it sealed the deal. Dun wasn't even Hip-Hop anymore. He was now a pop artist.

In the words of Cam (who also got at Jay), "you can fool the rest of the world, long as NY know."
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They plan was to knock me out the top of the game

But I overstand they truth is all lame

I hold cannons that shoot balls of flames

Right in they fat mouth then I carve my name

Nas - too real, Nas - true king

It's however you feel, g'head, you swing

Your arms too short to box with god

I don't kill soloists only kill squads

Fame went to they head, so now it's "Fuck Nas"

Yesterday you begged for a deal, today you tough guys

I seen it comin

Soon as I popped my first bottle I spotted my enemies tryna' do what I do

Came in with my style, so I fathered you

I kept changin on the world since "...Barbeque"

Now you wanna hang with niggas I hung with

Fuck bitches I hit,

Shitting on Jigga and everyone else dude was mad reckless back then
 
DR. JEK;5326311 said:
Jay's blueprint 2 song in my opinion was further indication that he lost to me. The whole song this nigga came off like feelings were caught. Nigga spent most of the song coppin pleas and being angry at the fans for thinking ether was harder. After you cried at hot 97 and the blame game went from everything from fans to his mom, blueprint 2 was the wrong approach.

Nas came off as a guy who was really on some "I ain't mean to fuck you up but you forced my hand" father shit on LRNA when I hear it. Definately takeover was the better try for jay
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This
 
After jigga decapitated nasir on takeover it was over,he exhumed the body and merked him again on Bp2

Nasir had to write 2 WHOLE songs off 2 verses then wanted white people to help orchestrate a hangin of jigga like a step n fetch tap dancing coon

If u want to hang your opponent on stage(after hot 97 says u won) You lost it and you lost.That's some emotional rosewood shit
 
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Can't y'all see that he's fake/ the rap version of TD jakes/Prophesizing on your CDs and tapes/Won't break you a crumb of the little bit that he makes/And this is with whom you want to place your faith?

And y'all buy the shit, caught up in the hype/Cause the nigga wear a kufi it don't mean that he bright

Cause you don't understand him, it don't mean that he nice/It just means you don't understand all the bullshit that he write

Is it "Oochie Wally Wally" or is it "One Mic"?/Is it "Black Girl Lost" or shorty owe you for ice?
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^Jigga bodied this kid wit facts the only rappa that ever got at Jigga was Cam'ron
 
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