The Flash (CW)

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A$AP_A$TON;7552969 said:
Waiting on the episode where something goes wrong and all the villains break out of the prison. I know it's coming.

Well probably gonna let the ones that fit his vision go on purpose.
 
BoldChild;7556945 said:
Does Superman exist in the Arrow and Flash universe, or is he currently still the smallville Clark Kent?

No idea but you want Superman to show up? How bout let Green Arrow and The Flash get their shine....Superman's already had his own show.
 
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infamous114;7557271 said:
BoldChild;7556945 said:
Does Superman exist in the Arrow and Flash universe, or is he currently still the smallville Clark Kent?

No idea but you want Superman to show up? How bout let Green Arrow and The Flash get their shine....Superman's already had his own show.

What are you rambling about?he only asked a question...please don't go the broddie super sayian route,it's not that serious.

 
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Yo, I only read Marvel comics growing up.....but this shit here is a complete mindfuck:
http://www.comicvine.com/wally-west/4005-23879/

Origin

Wally West was the nephew of Iris West, fiance of Barry Allen, who was (unknown to her at the time) the Flash of Central City. Wally grew up in a small town called Blue Valley with emotionally distant parents, and dreamed of living in Central City and perhaps one day meeting his hero, The Flash. Wally was only close to one relative, his father's sister, Iris.

One summer, Iris offered to let Wally stay in Central City with her. Wally gladly took the chance to get out of his hometown and away from his parents, and looked forward to the excitement of the big city. Iris introduced Wally to Barry, whom Wally thought was dull and uninteresting until Barry offered to introduce Wally to the Flash.

Barry used some simple super-speed tricks to pull off the double identity, and gave Wally the surprise of his life. In Barry's lab, the Flash told Wally about how he had gotten his powers - a stray bolt of lightning that hit a rack of chemicals, which in turn hit him.

A bolt of lightning struck chemicals which spilled on Wally granted him super-speed powers similar to Barry's. This was the exact same way in which Barry received his powers! Wally would later find out that the Speed Force used these accidents as a cover to grant super-speed powers to both him and Barry.

Barry revealed his dual identity to Wally and a new partnership was forged. Wally became Flash's sidekick, Kid Flash. Initially, Wally wore a costume mirroring Barry's. As a strategic decision during a battle, Flash altered Wally's costume to a primarily-yellow design. After the battle, Wally chose to keep the costume, and wore it through his whole career as Kid Flash.

Major Story Arcs

Kid Flash and the Teen Titans

Wally enjoyed many adventures with Barry and quickly established himself as a good hero, a few years after becoming Kid Flash, Wally met fellow heroes Robin and Aqualad, they joined together to stop the menace of Mr. Twister. It was the first time the sidekicks joined forces. Their second meeting was more eventful: Robin, Kid Flash, Aqualad, now joined by Wonder Girl , fought against their mentors, who had been possessed by the evil Antithesis. At this second meeting, the four youngsters decided to become a team and the Teen Titans were born, with Robin becoming the leader of the team. The sidekicks would continue to operate with their mentors, as well as spending time with their peers in the Titans.

Kid Flash eventually left the group to focus on school, while also continuing a part-time solo career and partnership with the Flash on a handful of cases. Wonder Girl eventually persuaded him to rejoin the team. Wally had a crush on Donna and made a halfhearted attempt to date her, even though she was involved with Aqualad at the time. Nothing ever came of this attraction. After a case involving Titans West, this incarnation of the team disbanded and Wally returned to Blue Valley to continue his college career.

The New Teen Titans

Some months later, Raven banded together a group of New Teen Titans to help her battle her demon-father, Trigon. Initially, Wally was disinterested in joining the team. Raven used her emotion-manipulating powers to make Wally fall in love with her – and in turn, he joined this new group of Teen Titans. Wally was consistently protective of Raven, and came to blows with Robin when he challenged her true motives.

After an encounter with the Justice League, Zatanna revealed Raven's manipulation of Kid Flash. He was angry and heartbroken. Even though the Titans eventually came to her aid and ultimately defeated Trigon, Wally had a hard time dealing with Raven's deception. Complicating matters, even without her influence, Wally realized he really was in love with Raven.

Shortly after this, Wally's high school sweetheart, Frances Kane, reentered his life. Frances' mother believed she was possessed by a demon; In truth, she had mutant magnetic powers. The Titans were able to deduce this although her mother still rejected her, fearing what her daughter had become. Frances resolved to learn more about controlling these powers. She also revealed to Kid Flash that she knew he was Wally West.

Wally grew increasingly unsure of his decision to continue as a member of the Titans. His discomfort with Raven and Frances' encouragement led him to leave the team and return to school in Blue Valley.
 
deadeye;7558643 said:
Yo, I only read Marvel comics growing up.....but this shit here is a complete mindfuck:
http://www.comicvine.com/wally-west/4005-23879/


The New Flash

Wally becomes the new Flash after Barry Allen's Death

The Crisis on Infinite Earths brought him out of retirement, and the death of Barry Allen gave him a new sense of purpose. Despite the risk, he took the name and costume of The Flash, and was determined to live up to the example that Barry Allen had set for the world. That job, however, would not be easy.

He was still consigned to relatively low speeds, only 700 miles per hour or so. Also, he won the lottery and gained a fortune, which allowed his more selfish characteristics to thrive, and when he lost it all, his life seemed to be going into a tailspin.

Aunt Iris returned from the future, where she had actually gone, instead of actually being dead. She wasn't alone either; with her, she brought along Bart Allen, a young man with amazing speed, who turned out to be her and Barry Allen's grandson. His power was accelerating him to the point that he'd die of old age before reaching his 4th birthday, and she needed Wally's help. He was already in the body of a 12 year-old despite only being alive two years (although he had the mental capacity of a young teen). Wally managed to stabilize his speed, but the two did not mesh very well at all; Wally claiming it was because they were too alike. Therefore, Wally asked Max Mercury to to raise Bart, which he agreed to. Bart took up the speedster gig, but laughed at the idea of going by Kid Flash, instead dubbing himself Impulse.

When Hal Jordan seemingly went mad after the destruction of his former home, Coast City, and became Parallax, he was replaced as Green Lantern by Kyle Rayner, who took his place in the Justice League of America, just as Wally had taken Barry's place. The relationship between the new Green Lantern and the third Flash got off to a rocky start - Wally, having grown up with Jordan as Green Lantern, and also having fond memories of him to the point that he thought of him as "Uncle Hal", did not warmly embrace Rayner and questioned whether or not he was worthy of replacing Jordan, and was perhaps more critical of Rayner than any other hero was in Rayner's early days. The two eventually overcame their differences and became very close friends, like their predecessors were.

During Zero Hour, Wally was seemingly killed while trying to help Rip Hunter and Waverider save the 64th Century and the timestream itself from waves of destructive entropy. Actually, he was flung backwards through time, where he invisibly and intangibly watched on the important points in his life as they happened. Wally became solid at the West Family Reunion, and turned out to be the "uncle" that gave his past self that pep talk. He soon returned to his proper time, but not until he had seen one more vision, a vision of his girlfriend Linda Park's apparent fate at the hands of Kobra, as well as his own death.

Afraid for Linda, he tried to take out Kobra as soon as possible, hoping that he could stop the tragedy that he had seen before it happened. He hid all of this information from her as long as he could, and kept holding back his speed, hoping to not brush against the future again. In a fit of rage when Bart ruined his plans against Kobra, Wally raced home, and began to turn into a being of pure energy. It subsided, but it happened again shortly thereafter, and more so.

Giving it one last ditch effort, and realizing he would very likely not make it out alive, he asked Jesse Quick to take over the mantle of Flash for him, should he die. This turned out to be nothing but a ploy to make Bart jealous, in hopes that he would get more serious about his legacy.

Wally thought he had averted the disaster he had foreseen when he saved Linda from Kobra's laser, but did not expect it to play out again. He had to go at speeds way beyond light to save her, the consequence being that he entered the Speed Force. He traded her fate for what he thought would be his. However, he managed to returned from the Speed Force, despite what Max Mercury had said about it being impossible. Linda was still on Earth, and that kept him from leaving her forever. Upon his return, he quickly defeated Kobra and destroyed his geothermal tap, ruining Project Morpheus. This trip beyond the light gave Wally the power to tap directly into the Speed Force itself; he now mainlined the Speed Force, and this resulted in him manifesting new abilities. He accelerated the speed of Jesse Quick's injury, healing her leg instantly, was able to vibrate through objects like he did as a kid, only now they were atomized afterwards, and was able to lend speed to other objects.
 
deadeye;7558657 said:
deadeye;7558643 said:
Yo, I only read Marvel comics growing up.....but this shit here is a complete mindfuck:
http://www.comicvine.com/wally-west/4005-23879/



Dark Flash

The Black Flash

During a fight with the Black Flash, who had apparently claimed the life of Linda, Wally saved her from the Speed Force. He proposed to her and they were almost married shortly thereafter, but she then disappeared off the face of the Earth, and no one, not even Wally, remembered her.

Wally then got caught up in an adventure spanning through different eras. Malcolm Thawne, Barry Allen's twin brother, reappeared, beginning the Allen-Thawne feud. Barry's death during the Crisis on Infinite Earths appeared to have cheated Malcolm out of his dreams of revenge on his brother. Instead, Malcolm focused on Allen's descendants traveling through time in a bid to exterminate them, starting with Wally West. Under the identity of Cobalt Blue, Malcolm ignited a family feud that endured for a millennium.

The feud came to a head in the late 30th Century, where Barry Allen was living with his wife Iris. Wally West arrived to try and protect his uncle. Flashes of all eras between the 20th and 30th centuries arrived soon after, all under the control of Thawne's spirit because they all were carrying a shard of the original Cobalt Blue gem. In the end, Wally West ended the menace of Cobalt Blue by running so fast that he skirted the edge of the Speed Force. Its power poured into the gem, and Thawne's spirit (and the gem itself) overloaded from the excess energy. Wally then vanished into the Speed Force. At that same moment, a new, mysterious Flash appeared in Keystone City.

Linda's disappearance was caused by a mysterious man who had a deep hatred for the Flash; he abducted her and kept her imprisoned within Limbo. This was also the reason behind why everyone on Earth had forgotten about her--Linda was taken from a time prior to her originally meeting Wally. Linda escaped from his prison and landed in an alternate Keystone City, where she encountered who she thought was Wally, until she noticed three distinct things: Keystone City's police were after Wally and called him "Walter"; Wally seemed to be mentally unbalanced; and this Wally's eyes were blue, not green. Linda next encountered this world's Pied Piper , who told her to run from Wally because he was dangerous.

Linda ran toward the Flash Museum, where she found a memorial statue dedicated to her dimensional counterpart, who sacrificed her life to save Keystone City from the villain Kobra. After again encountering Walter at a cemetery, Wally, following his link to Linda, emerged from the Speed Force. A battle ensued between Wally and Walter, where they were evenly matched. However, Walter came back with a vengeance, pinning Wally to a wall with a vibrationally-charged rebar. Wally tried to explain to Walter that he and Linda were from a parallel world; he also explained that although they share the same memories, Wally could never turn into the man Walter has become. That statement set off Walter's anger once again, starting another fight with Wally.

Walter then let loose with the fact that after his Linda's death, he sought out Savitar, and after tricking him into teaching Walter every trick and skill he knew, killed him. After Walter's revelation, Abra Kadabra appeared, trapping both Wally and Walter. Kadabra explained that he tried to break the bond that draws Wally back to this dimension by casting a spell to make everyone forget that Linda existed and hold her outside of time, but she escaped, landing in that alternate Keystone and drew Wally to her once again. To defeat Kadabra, Wally temporarily merged his physical essence with Walter's, gaining greater speed and learning a few new skills; from this merging, Walter also finally came to terms with not being able to save his Linda from death.

Kadabra, however, faked his defeat at their hands and seemingly discorporated Wally and Linda's essences; in actuality, they ended up traversing through countless alternate dimensions, nearly losing their minds until they found their home dimension, thanks to Bart (he was actually born outside of time, rendering him immune to chronal alterations). Wally and Linda finally made it back to their Keystone City; however, Linda was still forgotten from everyone's minds. Wally then sought out Jay Garrick, told him of his plans to rescue Linda, and set off for the Flash Museum, where he donned a Reverse-Flash costume and "allied" himself with Abra Kadabra and Replicant. Wally then kidnapped Jay Garrick, Bart Allen, and Jesse Quick and took them to Kadabra's abandoned theater hideout, where as Professor Zoom, he taunted Kadabra into reversing the spell he cast on Linda, bringing her back in full, to everyone's memory; Professor Zoom then pulled back his cowl, revealing himself as none other than Wally West. The final battle between Wally, Walter, and Abra Kadabra ensued. Kadabra preparing a spell to wipe the memories of the Flash legacy from the world's minds forever. On Linda's suggestion, Wally, Walter, Jay, Max, and Bart used mirrors to block and reflect Kadabra's spell back at him, rendering Kadabra himself with amnesia. A short while later, Linda gave birth to twins, Jai and Iris.
 
deadeye;7558666 said:
deadeye;7558657 said:
deadeye;7558643 said:
Yo, I only read Marvel comics growing up.....but this shit here is a complete mindfuck:
http://www.comicvine.com/wally-west/4005-23879/

Infinite Crisis

During the Infinite Crisis, Wally disappeared while trying to force Superboy-Prime into the Speed Force. Before vanishing entirely, he was able to appear to Linda in order to say goodbye. Linda refused to be separated from him, and she and the twins joined him in the Speed Force. Their current whereabouts and condition are unknown.

Wally West and family where returned when the Legion Of Super-Heroes try to resurrect "the Last Legionnaire" by channeling released Speed Force energy via lightning rods. The legion traveled to spots that were important both to Wally and Bary Allen. Both Hal Jordan and Batman realize this fact and believe Allen's return is imminent. However, they instead retrieve Wally, Linda, and his twin children, who appear to have aged several years. Wally was offered membership to Justice League, which he accepts. It is later said that his return was a freak accident but the Legion of Super-Heroes till got who they wanted. When Wally became aware of Bart's death, he tracked down Inertia stealing his speed and turning him into a living statue. He was placed in the Flash Museum, and forced to stare at Bart's old Kid Flash and Impulse uniforms forever.

Retirement & Return

During what has become known as Infinite Crisis, a team consisting of Kid Flash (Bart Allen), Barry, Max, and Johnny Quick were able to temporarily subdue Superboy-Prime by sending him to the Speed Force and Wally once he had gotten his family followed them (which later turned out to be an alternate Earth). He and the other speedsters, along with Linda and the twins, were sent to an alternate Earth, home of another Jay Garrick operating as the Flash. They decided to absorb the Speed Force into Bart and send him home to battle Superboy-Prime.

Content with passing the Flash mantle on to Bart, Wally and Linda decided to raise their children on the alien world Savoth, where the residents were longtime friends of the Flashes. However, shortly after their arrival, the twins began to age very rapidly. The Savothians, who were advanced scholars of velocibiology, at first did not agree to help the Wests, but finally relented and agreed to train Linda to deal with the children's rapid aging.

Wally, along with Linda and their children, was brought back to Earth by seven members of the Legion of Super-Heroes using lightning rod devices. When Wally came back, he indirectly took away Bart's portion of the Speed Force, and with the return of Wally West, the Speed Force also returned as he mainlined it and was practically one with it. He was then invited to join the newly reformed Justice League of America. Wally and Linda moved back to Keystone City. Since they were afraid the twins could, at any time, age rapidly, possibly even to old age and death, they decided to let Iris and Jai, who had developed their own superspeed-related abilities, live their lives to the fullest by helping their father fight crime. Not long after, Wally found himself once again pulling a double-shift for two separate teams. He reunited with his old allies the Titans in order to face the pressing threat of Trigon.

Final Crisis

When Orion, was murdered, Wally and Jay investigated to find the Secret Society of Super Villains' hideout and discovered Metron's chair. They figured out that the bullet that had killed Orion had been sent through time thanks to the chair which acted as a gateway. Suddenly, a light filled the room and from within the portal of the chair came Wally's former mentor and idol, Barry Allen. Barry was chasing the bullet that killed Orion through time but was being pursued by Black Racer. Wally and Jay joined him in the race to save Orion's life but they were too late, Orion was killed. Jay was forced to abandon the chase due to not being able to keep up but Wally and Barry tried to escape the Black Racer, ending up in the near future where the world had been taken over by the Evil Gods thanks to the Anti-Life Equation. They visited Wally's Aunt Iris' house to find even she had been corrupted by Anti-Life. After freeing her from the Equation, Barry and Wally tried to come up with a plan to stop Darkseid, who had now taken over the world. They once again ran, the Black Racer catching up with them, and went into a full sprint for Darkseid. The Black Racer was gaining on them as they approached Darkseid, who was in the middle of battling Superman with his followers. The Flashes saved Superman from the followers' omega beams and when they managed to get to Darkseid, they vibrated through him, causing the Black Racer to crash into him, severely wounding the Evil God. After Darkseid was defeated, Barry and Wally reunited with the rest of their friends and family. Superman assembled Wally along with both generations of the Titans, to reveal that Bart Allen and Superboy had been resurrected in the future and brought back to the present. Wally couldn't be more overjoyed to see his cousin back.

Blackest Night

Wally races across the globe with Barry and Bart to pass to every hero around the world Barry's message of the rise the Black Lantern Corps and their universal invasion. He later arrives at Coast City with Bart, Justice League, and the Teen Titans to aid Barry in taking a stand against Nekron the black personification of death and lord of the Black Lanterns.

The New 52

Following the company wide reboot of the DC Universe, Wally made his first appearance in The Flash #30 and his full debut in The Flash Annual #3 appearing as bi-racial 12-year old who is caught by Barry spray painting a wall and crossing out The Flash symbol. He still shares his relationship with Iris West as her nephew. Iris states that Wally's father ran off while he was young and his mother disappeared during the Crime Syndicates attack during Forever Evil.

Wally blames the Flash for putting his Uncle Daniel (the Reverse-Flash) in jail and for not doing anything during the Crime Syndicate's destruction and a result, the disappearance of his mother. Iris attempts to get Barry's help in helping Wally.

Five years later Wally learns the Flash's identity when he encounters the future Flash who reveals himself to be Barry Allen 15 years later from the current timeline. However after learning the goals of the future Flash he absorbs a part of the speed force during an explosion while Barry of the present timeline fights the future Flash turning Wally into the new speedster.

The adventure as the new speedster however is short-lived as Wally sacrificed himself to absorb the energy that's supposedly consuming Barry Allen of the present timeline in order to fix the wound of the Speed Force.

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infamous114;7557271 said:
BoldChild;7556945 said:
Does Superman exist in the Arrow and Flash universe, or is he currently still the smallville Clark Kent?

No idea but you want Superman to show up? How bout let Green Arrow and The Flash get their shine....Superman's already had his own show.

No, I hate superman, I was just asking because of the Man of Steel line
 
This may be borderline blasphemous, but as of right now, I don't like Iris. She's fuckin stupid and she's a nuisance. And her attractive level isn't high enough to override her annoying level. And she's useless. At least Laurel can fight and has a job that's been beneficial to Arrow.

Although, I will say, she's not as bad as Barbara, who's even more annoying and useless, and much less attractive. Whoever thought she was cute is blind. That bitch is busted.
 
never watched the show and dont plan on it but i used to read the comics but for the life of me i still cant understand how a white boy gone be faster than a nigga? that shit made me quit fuckin with flash and superman. im like really....i know about ten niggaZ of the top of my head that would smoke them niggaZ in a race. me being one of them
 
ineedpussy;7565738 said:
never watched the show and dont plan on it but i used to read the comics but for the life of me i still cant understand how a white boy gone be faster than a nigga? that shit made me quit fuckin with flash and superman. im like really....i know about ten niggaZ of the top of my head that would smoke them niggaZ in a race. me being one of them

Because he got hax powers.

 
ineedpussy;7565738 said:
never watched the show and dont plan on it but i used to read the comics but for the life of me i still cant understand how a white boy gone be faster than a nigga? that shit made me quit fuckin with flash and superman. im like really....i know about ten niggaZ of the top of my head that would smoke them niggaZ in a race. me being one of them

Uhm, my nigga. Wally West is black and he's the fastest flash. Barry Allen is the second fastest.
 

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