BangEm_Bart
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DWO;7457149 said:
Yup.
Kid Flash (new 52)
And this is why I'm a fan of flash.
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Yup.
Kid Flash (new 52)
And this is why I'm a fan of flash.
iron man1;7457862 said:
No way in hell that's Jay Garrick.
My theory:
Eddie Thawne is clearly based on Hunter Zolomon which for anybody who doesn't read comic books was Wally West's Reverse Flash. Down to being a cop with keystone city origins. my hunch is that he is an ancestor of Eobard Thawne (Barry Allen's Reverse Flash) in this continuity.
Maybe when Grodd shows up he will still end up paralyzed and then become a reverse flash like Zolomon in the comic. But I do see him as a red herring in the sense that he won't be the reverse flash who killed Nora Allen.
That could still be Eobard Thawne speed force obsessed scientist and Flash fanboy from the future who is now a descendant of Eddie. Except this time he's taken the alias Harrison Wells to throw the fanbase off. The same way that instead of Dinah Laurel Lance being the Black Canary in the Arrow show they made up a sister for her to carry that mantle which threw expectations off and kept fans on their toes.
As to why Eobard will travel back in time and pull off an elaborate scheme? that is a question I've seen a lot of people ask and one that shouldn't be hard to answer if they read comic books; that is part of his MO. He has tried to secure the past to ensure his own future many times. If the Flash doesn't exist neither does Professor Zoom.
In this case he likely needed to ensure that flash becomes who he becomes so that the speed force could exist and therefore the negative force will eventually manifest by proxy and he could tap into it. Only real problem I have with that is the whole contrived archnemesis creates the hero trope. But I could deal with that it's been done enough in many media adaptations that it doesn't even surprise me anymore so I just deal with it.
Maybe when Grodd shows up he will still end up paralyzed and then become a reverse flash like Zolomon in the comic. But I do see him as a red herring in the sense that he won't be the reverse flash who killed Nora Allen.
That could still be Eobard Thawne speed force obsessed scientist and Flash fanboy from the future who is now a descendant of Eddie. Except this time he's taken the alias Harrison Wells to throw the fanbase off. The same way that instead of Dinah Laurel Lance being the Black Canary in the Arrow show they made up a sister for her to carry that mantle which threw expectations off and kept fans on their toes.
As to why Eobard will travel back in time and pull off an elaborate scheme? that is a question I've seen a lot of people ask and one that shouldn't be hard to answer if they read comic books; that is part of his MO. He has tried to secure the past to ensure his own future many times. If the Flash doesn't exist neither does Professor Zoom.
In this case he likely needed to ensure that flash becomes who he becomes so that the speed force could exist and therefore the negative force will eventually manifest by proxy and he could tap into it. Only real problem I have with that is the whole contrived archnemesis creates the hero trope. But I could deal with that it's been done enough in many media adaptations that it doesn't even surprise me anymore so I just deal with it.
Anyhow this is an interesting show. I can't stand Arrow. Mostly because of Stephen Amell's poor line delivery and stilted acting but more importantly because it's Batman lite and that's when GA the character is at his worst like in the Golden Age. Green Arrow is at his best when he evolves to contain his own individual liberal adventurer personality and is only comparable to Batman on a very superficial level like in the bronze age and modern age comics. But this show captures the spirit of The Flash to a tee. It's refreshing to see any live action superhero project where the hero is actually proud to be a hero.
The way they're remixing things is more interesting than Arrow too. Making Caitlin Snow (the future Killer Frost) the fiancee of the guy who will become her archnemesis (Firestorm) is interesting. Making Joe West a detective and Barry's surrogate dad was interesting. Killing off Simon Stagg was very unexpected but interesting because it shows you what kind of curveballs you should expect from this version of the DCU if you're a DC fan. Overall the show is better than even I hoped it would be.
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In the end the 18-49 demo rating is what network execs care about and it's more important that it held steadily than the amount of total viewers. This is why you've seen shows in the past with a great millions upon millions of total viewers get cancelled like nothing; their 18-49 demo rating was lackluster. This means the future of this show is looking very bright so this is great news.
BangEm_Bart
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Reading into it, the cop eddie Thorne is reverse flash, cisco is vibe and Caitlin snow is killer frost. I don't know who Professor wells is.
earth two superman
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Joe west and grant gustin work really well together. Like du said, their relationship actually sounds believable.
Here's a question that will show my ignorance and laziness...
What's the difference between DC and Marvel Universes?
And they intertwine right?
I'm becoming a fan and need to do my homework, but if someone can sum it up real quick I would appreciate it...
@DillaDeaf maybe you can help?
Always loved Superman and Batman films...but Flash and Arrow is new to me...
And where does X-Men fit into all of this???
Lol...sorry, I will do some research when I get time.
What's the difference between DC and Marvel Universes?
And they intertwine right?
I'm becoming a fan and need to do my homework, but if someone can sum it up real quick I would appreciate it...
@DillaDeaf maybe you can help?
Always loved Superman and Batman films...but Flash and Arrow is new to me...
And where does X-Men fit into all of this???
Lol...sorry, I will do some research when I get time.
infamous114
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X-Men is Marvel bruh lol
DNB1;7458861 said:
@DNB1
Nothing wrong with your questions, there are many that aren't comic book heads or just starting. Remember as a beginning comic book reader, there's no such thing as an stupid question, it's only a stupid question if you don't ASK a question.
DC and Marvel are the 2 "big boys" of comics... DC was always more darker alot of times than Marvel, but the darker titles moved over to Vertigo (DC's comic family)
They don't interwine...yes there was crossover, but best believe some take their cues from each other, your fav superhero was probably a copy of another hero from another company
Supes and Bats are normally the easiest to start and work with. Flash and Arrow, I'm still educating myself on both..but I'm lucky in the sense I know the major players outside of the Flash and Arrow universe and sort of know where certain storylines go.
X-Men is something else. Basically the bottom line is to use this analogy --XMen is the "Star Trek" version of comics book industry -- by that I mean, Stan Lee use that brand to tackle racism, hate, cultural differences back in the 60s (same way Star Trek did).
I'm still researching comic stuff everyday.
clairvoyance
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Multiplex came back on dude who snuffed him like it was MK
lord nemesis
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I can't wait to see how they eventually put the Rogues together
soul rattler
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Nice episode with the exception of that scene that felt like some shit out of Twilight with him running around ol girl Drake'n it.
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Shemite;7457886 said:DWO;7457149 said:
Yup.
Kid Flash (new 52)
And this is why I'm a fan of flash.
wasn't there a black female kid flash a couple of years ago or was that justice league beyond.
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