THE FACE OF JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CHRISTIANS, LETS TALK ABOUT IT

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lol this nigga known nothing about Christianity this shit is almost fucking sad

LOL this brainwashed nigga doesn't realize Christianity is a made up religion from older religions. Just like greek and roman mythology was. It's fucking sad and makes me lose hope of my people ever truly getting free.

This is all he can do now because there's absolutely no way he can flip these facts. Same ol christian fake ass behavior whenever you call out all the fake shit and hypocrisy. Just hold this L and continue putting all your "faith" in a bad remix of older folk lore. Look crazy all by yourself B, don't try to pull us sane and awake niggas into the white/arab madness. I was once told by some triple OG's that you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink.

I've shown you the a whole ocean my brotha, the rest is up to you..............

lol hahahahah your list was wrong and lol at it being a made up religion i keep hearing that bullshit from people and it makes no fucking sense at all but idiots often think they are geniuses. I could break down to you why 1-4 is bullshit but i won't bother you wouldn't listen anyway.

You have not said anything i have not come across before you are not teaching me anything I study RELIGION itself NOT JUST MY OWN. I know all about African religions, the religions of ancient Egypt and Nubia, Rome , Greece AND mesopotamia I KNOW ALL THAT SHIT ALREADY. I am not do you want to go to heaven I don't evangelize. IF ou WANT TO can continue to adsorb as much information as you want and keep coming to faulty conclusions. I really don't care. KEEP pushing the dead gods of Egypt all you want they won't be coming back the GOD OF ABRAHAM SLAUGHTERED THEM a LONG time ago.

And where is the god of Abraham now lol

The vast majority of the human species worships some version of the god of Abraham but i know you consider him lazy because he won't do what you want when and how you want him to

Vast majority? Not really, Muslims and Christians together make up about 55% of the world population, Jews make up less than 1%.

Not really a "vast" majority and either way it's not like we see the Abrahamic god hovering around out there. For all we know, another god killed it off too.

It is the vast majority. The actual numbers are unreported BUT basically

all of south america,north america, Africa, Australia is more than half christian, the middle east. Eastern Europe especially russia has a growing christian population in an unfortunately over all slowing population, china has a large and hidden christian population

and believe it or not there still are professing Christians in western Europe it's just that they have very low church attendance. just because you can't see/sense god does not mean other people can't sense him i have told you before maybe GOD JUST DOES NOT LIKE YOU.

55% of the world is not a vast majority though, a huge part of Africa is animistic, polytheistic or Muslim. Many in South America worship death saints and others on top of Jesus, it's not as simple a picture as you say. Asia is definitely not a mostly Christian region and Christianity in Europe is dying in huge numbers.

And why would you say god possibly doesn't like me? How come my life is so much better than many of the Christians that I know? How come atheist Bill Gates has it way better than most Christians in poverty stricken El Salvador or Bolivia? If your god doesn't like me, he must hate the lives of many Christians worldwide. Look what's happening in mostly Christian Brazil with the Zika virus, 1.5 million and counting are infected there BWAHAHAHA, fuck outta here

Islam is a branch of the Abraham faith ( a corrupted branch but still a branch) animism is dying in Africa and is already in the extreme minority by 2050 half the Christians on earth will be African. china has a growing christian population south east Asia has million almost a billion Muslims. The death saint cults are really limited in mexico and they have less than 1 million adherents and EASTERN Europe is having a christian revival.

being rich or being poor does not mean god is smiling at you or that he is angry at you. That is a lesson that is only slightly above a Sunday school lesson. Your questions let me know that you don't understand religion at all. It is possible that god does not like you even if you have 1 billion dollars it means nothing to him and you will see how he really feels about you when you close your eyes for the final time

So basically, you have no way of knowing whether a god "likes me" or not. You can stop saying "maybe god doesn't like me" anymore now I guess. I don't see divine favor in Brazil or crime ridden South Africa, that's for damn sure.
 
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kingblaze84;8813678 said:
zzombie;8811627 said:
kingblaze84;8811537 said:
zzombie;8811491 said:
kingblaze84;8811364 said:
zzombie;8811073 said:
kingblaze84;8810697 said:
zzombie;8810001 said:
PILL_COSBY;8809875 said:
zzombie;8809807 said:
lol this nigga known nothing about Christianity this shit is almost fucking sad

LOL this brainwashed nigga doesn't realize Christianity is a made up religion from older religions. Just like greek and roman mythology was. It's fucking sad and makes me lose hope of my people ever truly getting free.

This is all he can do now because there's absolutely no way he can flip these facts. Same ol christian fake ass behavior whenever you call out all the fake shit and hypocrisy. Just hold this L and continue putting all your "faith" in a bad remix of older folk lore. Look crazy all by yourself B, don't try to pull us sane and awake niggas into the white/arab madness. I was once told by some triple OG's that you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink.

I've shown you the a whole ocean my brotha, the rest is up to you..............

lol hahahahah your list was wrong and lol at it being a made up religion i keep hearing that bullshit from people and it makes no fucking sense at all but idiots often think they are geniuses. I could break down to you why 1-4 is bullshit but i won't bother you wouldn't listen anyway.

You have not said anything i have not come across before you are not teaching me anything I study RELIGION itself NOT JUST MY OWN. I know all about African religions, the religions of ancient Egypt and Nubia, Rome , Greece AND mesopotamia I KNOW ALL THAT SHIT ALREADY. I am not do you want to go to heaven I don't evangelize. IF ou WANT TO can continue to adsorb as much information as you want and keep coming to faulty conclusions. I really don't care. KEEP pushing the dead gods of Egypt all you want they won't be coming back the GOD OF ABRAHAM SLAUGHTERED THEM a LONG time ago.

And where is the god of Abraham now lol

The vast majority of the human species worships some version of the god of Abraham but i know you consider him lazy because he won't do what you want when and how you want him to

Vast majority? Not really, Muslims and Christians together make up about 55% of the world population, Jews make up less than 1%.

Not really a "vast" majority and either way it's not like we see the Abrahamic god hovering around out there. For all we know, another god killed it off too.

It is the vast majority. The actual numbers are unreported BUT basically

all of south america,north america, Africa, Australia is more than half christian, the middle east. Eastern Europe especially russia has a growing christian population in an unfortunately over all slowing population, china has a large and hidden christian population

and believe it or not there still are professing Christians in western Europe it's just that they have very low church attendance. just because you can't see/sense god does not mean other people can't sense him i have told you before maybe GOD JUST DOES NOT LIKE YOU.

55% of the world is not a vast majority though, a huge part of Africa is animistic, polytheistic or Muslim. Many in South America worship death saints and others on top of Jesus, it's not as simple a picture as you say. Asia is definitely not a mostly Christian region and Christianity in Europe is dying in huge numbers.

And why would you say god possibly doesn't like me? How come my life is so much better than many of the Christians that I know? How come atheist Bill Gates has it way better than most Christians in poverty stricken El Salvador or Bolivia? If your god doesn't like me, he must hate the lives of many Christians worldwide. Look what's happening in mostly Christian Brazil with the Zika virus, 1.5 million and counting are infected there BWAHAHAHA, fuck outta here

Islam is a branch of the Abraham faith ( a corrupted branch but still a branch) animism is dying in Africa and is already in the extreme minority by 2050 half the Christians on earth will be African. china has a growing christian population south east Asia has million almost a billion Muslims. The death saint cults are really limited in mexico and they have less than 1 million adherents and EASTERN Europe is having a christian revival.

being rich or being poor does not mean god is smiling at you or that he is angry at you. That is a lesson that is only slightly above a Sunday school lesson. Your questions let me know that you don't understand religion at all. It is possible that god does not like you even if you have 1 billion dollars it means nothing to him and you will see how he really feels about you when you close your eyes for the final time

So basically, you have no way of knowing whether a god "likes me" or not. You can stop saying "maybe god doesn't like me" anymore I guess.

THAT makes no sense because "maybe" is the whole point. Maybe you cannot sense god because he does not like your ass because of the way you have purposely decided to think or act. MAYBE your mind and spirit is so out of vibration with his that there's nothing that can be done and he's given you up to your own devices.

It's just a possibility
 
zzombie;8813717 said:
kingblaze84;8813678 said:
zzombie;8811627 said:
kingblaze84;8811537 said:
zzombie;8811491 said:
kingblaze84;8811364 said:
zzombie;8811073 said:
kingblaze84;8810697 said:
zzombie;8810001 said:
PILL_COSBY;8809875 said:
zzombie;8809807 said:
lol this nigga known nothing about Christianity this shit is almost fucking sad

LOL this brainwashed nigga doesn't realize Christianity is a made up religion from older religions. Just like greek and roman mythology was. It's fucking sad and makes me lose hope of my people ever truly getting free.

This is all he can do now because there's absolutely no way he can flip these facts. Same ol christian fake ass behavior whenever you call out all the fake shit and hypocrisy. Just hold this L and continue putting all your "faith" in a bad remix of older folk lore. Look crazy all by yourself B, don't try to pull us sane and awake niggas into the white/arab madness. I was once told by some triple OG's that you can lead a horse to water but you can't make them drink.

I've shown you the a whole ocean my brotha, the rest is up to you..............

lol hahahahah your list was wrong and lol at it being a made up religion i keep hearing that bullshit from people and it makes no fucking sense at all but idiots often think they are geniuses. I could break down to you why 1-4 is bullshit but i won't bother you wouldn't listen anyway.

You have not said anything i have not come across before you are not teaching me anything I study RELIGION itself NOT JUST MY OWN. I know all about African religions, the religions of ancient Egypt and Nubia, Rome , Greece AND mesopotamia I KNOW ALL THAT SHIT ALREADY. I am not do you want to go to heaven I don't evangelize. IF ou WANT TO can continue to adsorb as much information as you want and keep coming to faulty conclusions. I really don't care. KEEP pushing the dead gods of Egypt all you want they won't be coming back the GOD OF ABRAHAM SLAUGHTERED THEM a LONG time ago.

And where is the god of Abraham now lol

The vast majority of the human species worships some version of the god of Abraham but i know you consider him lazy because he won't do what you want when and how you want him to

Vast majority? Not really, Muslims and Christians together make up about 55% of the world population, Jews make up less than 1%.

Not really a "vast" majority and either way it's not like we see the Abrahamic god hovering around out there. For all we know, another god killed it off too.

It is the vast majority. The actual numbers are unreported BUT basically

all of south america,north america, Africa, Australia is more than half christian, the middle east. Eastern Europe especially russia has a growing christian population in an unfortunately over all slowing population, china has a large and hidden christian population

and believe it or not there still are professing Christians in western Europe it's just that they have very low church attendance. just because you can't see/sense god does not mean other people can't sense him i have told you before maybe GOD JUST DOES NOT LIKE YOU.

55% of the world is not a vast majority though, a huge part of Africa is animistic, polytheistic or Muslim. Many in South America worship death saints and others on top of Jesus, it's not as simple a picture as you say. Asia is definitely not a mostly Christian region and Christianity in Europe is dying in huge numbers.

And why would you say god possibly doesn't like me? How come my life is so much better than many of the Christians that I know? How come atheist Bill Gates has it way better than most Christians in poverty stricken El Salvador or Bolivia? If your god doesn't like me, he must hate the lives of many Christians worldwide. Look what's happening in mostly Christian Brazil with the Zika virus, 1.5 million and counting are infected there BWAHAHAHA, fuck outta here

Islam is a branch of the Abraham faith ( a corrupted branch but still a branch) animism is dying in Africa and is already in the extreme minority by 2050 half the Christians on earth will be African. china has a growing christian population south east Asia has million almost a billion Muslims. The death saint cults are really limited in mexico and they have less than 1 million adherents and EASTERN Europe is having a christian revival.

being rich or being poor does not mean god is smiling at you or that he is angry at you. That is a lesson that is only slightly above a Sunday school lesson. Your questions let me know that you don't understand religion at all. It is possible that god does not like you even if you have 1 billion dollars it means nothing to him and you will see how he really feels about you when you close your eyes for the final time

So basically, you have no way of knowing whether a god "likes me" or not. You can stop saying "maybe god doesn't like me" anymore I guess.

THAT makes no sense because "maybe" is the whole point. Maybe you cannot sense god because he does not like your ass because of the way you have purposely decided to think or act. MAYBE your mind and spirit is so out of vibration with his that there's nothing that can be done and he's given you up to your own devices.

It's just a possibility

I don't sense the Bible god that's nowhere to be found, but I'm open to other gods or higher powers being out there. I'm actually a spiritual person believe it or not, not religious but I do meditate several times a week. When I mediate, I sense some kind of higher power but never something as strange or weird as the kind of god you believe in.
 
zzombie;8811532 said:
You don't have to like it but the reality is that the abrahamic religions dominate humanity as our major religions and the atheist population is shrinking in proportions to everyone else.

So you can give my posts any negative reactions you want doing so won't change anything.

Atheists are actually growing

Slowly but growing not shrinking .
 
Religion is a cultural phenomenon to explain something. It's all fiction that the human developed on its own. There isn't anything that will lead it to be true. Nothing objective rhetoric but the sale thing could be said that one does exist of a higher existence level.
 
Ajackson17;8815830 said:
zzombie;8811532 said:
You don't have to like it but the reality is that the abrahamic religions dominate humanity as our major religions and the atheist population is shrinking in proportions to everyone else.

So you can give my posts any negative reactions you want doing so won't change anything.

Atheists are actually growing

Slowly but growing not shrinking .

No they are not atheists are shrinking in proportion to the whole population in other words atheists increase in raw numbers it's not fast enough to keep up with the religious population. Therefore there slice of the pie is smaller
 
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If all behaviors are rooted in human genetics then I suspect there to be genetic differences between the ardently religious and ardent atheists.... Judging by their lack of numbers and shrinking population I suspect atheism may be a genetic and cultural dead end.
 
Just because the majority of a population believes in a thing

Does not make that thing true.

Google Argumentum ad populum
 
zzombie;8816234 said:
If all behaviors are rooted in human genetics then I suspect there to be genetic differences between the ardently religious and ardent atheists.... Judging by their lack of numbers and shrinking population I suspect atheism may be a genetic and cultural dead end.

So maybe there is a genetic basis for religious faith.

If that's the case, it would be easier to argue against the validity of theism

Because our religious experiences are so different.

 
zzombie;8816220 said:
No they are not atheists are shrinking in proportion to the whole population in other words atheists increase in raw numbers it's not fast enough to keep up with the religious population. Therefore there slice of the pie is smaller

If national wealth drives secularization, the global population will cross an atheist threshold where the majority see religion as unimportant by 2041.

Averaging across the two measures of atheism, the entire world population would cross the atheist threshold by about 2038 (average of 2035 for disbelief and 2041 for religiosity). Although 2038 may seem improbably fast, this requires only a shift of approximately 1 percent per year whether in religiosity or belief in God. Using the Human Development Index as a clock suggests an even earlier arrival for the atheist transition (1).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nigel-barber/atheism-to-defeat-religion-by-2038_b_1565108.html
 
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Bodhi;8816493 said:
zzombie;8816234 said:
If all behaviors are rooted in human genetics then I suspect there to be genetic differences between the ardently religious and ardent atheists.... Judging by their lack of numbers and shrinking population I suspect atheism may be a genetic and cultural dead end.

So maybe there is a genetic basis for religious faith.

If that's the case, it would be easier to argue against the validity of theism

Because our religious experiences are so different.

Not really if there is a genetic basis for religion the form it takes would be irrelevant because much the same way other genetic traits are expressed differently by individual/populations then religion/sense of the Devine would be no different.

Really what I am suggesting is that it is possible that human social behavior is an outgrowth of our genetics.
 
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Bodhi;8816477 said:
Just because the majority of a population believes in a thing

Does not make that thing true.

Google Argumentum ad populum

I never argued for "truth" in this thread but the fact is remains that the religions Abraham of have basically taken over and they continue to spread meanwhile other religions are in retreat.
 
zzombie;8816518 said:
Really what I am suggesting is that it is possible that human social behavior is an outgrowth of our genetics.

Of course, but if faith is influenced by our genes,

One could argue that some God hardwired us to know him.

What I'm saying is that the differences in theistic philosophies

Kind of debunks that.

So from a theistic viewpoint,

The form it takes would be very relevant.
 
zzombie;8816531 said:
Bodhi;8816477 said:
Just because the majority of a population believes in a thing

Does not make that thing true.

Google Argumentum ad populum

I never argued for "truth" in this thread but the fact is remains that the religions Abraham of have basically taken over and they continue to spread meanwhile other religions are in retreat.

If you aren't arguing for the existence of the Abrahamic God,

Then what is the point of saying something like the bolded?
 
Bodhi;8816507 said:
zzombie;8816220 said:
No they are not atheists are shrinking in proportion to the whole population in other words atheists increase in raw numbers it's not fast enough to keep up with the religious population. Therefore there slice of the pie is smaller

If national wealth drives secularization, the global population will cross an atheist threshold where the majority see religion as unimportant by 2041.

Averaging across the two measures of atheism, the entire world population would cross the atheist threshold by about 2038 (average of 2035 for disbelief and 2041 for religiosity). Although 2038 may seem improbably fast, this requires only a shift of approximately 1 percent per year whether in religiosity or belief in God. Using the Human Development Index as a clock suggests an even earlier arrival for the atheist transition (1).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nigel-barber/atheism-to-defeat-religion-by-2038_b_1565108.html

Who knows what will happen 50 years from now but religion has been around for thousands of years the hope of atheists that religion will go away in 50 is highly unlikely and is wishful thinking at best. And makes little sense there are millions of Muslims and Christians alive now that will be alive by 2041
 
Also most of the nation's that are going atheists are mostly white once again perhaps there a genetic connection there maybe not who knows.

I'm not buying the money=atheist argument most of those nations are in western Europe and western Europe is being swamped with Muslim and muslims are out breeding the Europeans. So I'm definitely not seeing religion be reduced in importance by 2041 lol foh
 
Bodhi;8816535 said:
zzombie;8816518 said:
Really what I am suggesting is that it is possible that human social behavior is an outgrowth of our genetics.

Of course, but if faith is influenced by our genes,

One could argue that some God hardwired us to know him.

What I'm saying is that the differences in theistic philosophies

Kind of debunks that.

So from a theistic viewpoint,

The form it takes would be very relevant.

I don't believe God hardwires people to know him.That makes no sense from my religious perspective.

There is a difference between being hardwired to have a sense of the immaterial vs being hardwired to recognize a particular God
 
zzombie;8816549 said:
Bodhi;8816507 said:
zzombie;8816220 said:
No they are not atheists are shrinking in proportion to the whole population in other words atheists increase in raw numbers it's not fast enough to keep up with the religious population. Therefore there slice of the pie is smaller

If national wealth drives secularization, the global population will cross an atheist threshold where the majority see religion as unimportant by 2041.

Averaging across the two measures of atheism, the entire world population would cross the atheist threshold by about 2038 (average of 2035 for disbelief and 2041 for religiosity). Although 2038 may seem improbably fast, this requires only a shift of approximately 1 percent per year whether in religiosity or belief in God. Using the Human Development Index as a clock suggests an even earlier arrival for the atheist transition (1).

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nigel-barber/atheism-to-defeat-religion-by-2038_b_1565108.html

Who knows what will happen 50 years from now but religion has been around for thousands of years the hope of atheists that religion will go away in 50 is highly unlikely and is wishful thinking at best. And makes little sense there are millions of Muslims and Christians alive now that will be alive by 2041

That piece predicted atheism would be the majority,

Not that it would completely wipe out belief in god(s).
 
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