THE FACE OF JESUS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! CHRISTIANS, LETS TALK ABOUT IT

[The_Jackal]

Before the Romans, the Greeks came to Kemet in an attempt to learn and later conquer. As did many other places and groups.

The greeks fully conquered Egypt? How when greek mercenaries fought for Egypt area. Yes I admit that there were visitations and Greek did establish cities in Egypt but there was no widespread conquest or subjugation until Alexander time and Macedonia aren't white and Alexander himself isn't depicted as white. And after his death Egypt was considered independent

 

[zzombie]

Before the Romans, the Greeks came to Kemet in an attempt to learn and later conquer. As did many other places and groups.

The greeks fully conquered Egypt? How when greek mercenaries fought for Egypt area. Yes I admit that there were visitations and Greek did establish cities in Egypt but there was no widespread conquest or subjugation until Alexander time and Macedonia aren't white and Alexander himself isn't depicted as white. And after his death Egypt was considered independent [/quote]

Explain

 

[The_Jackal]

Before the Romans, the Greeks came to Kemet in an attempt to learn and later conquer. As did many other places and groups.

The greeks fully conquered Egypt? How when greek mercenaries fought for Egypt area. Yes I admit that there were visitations and Greek did establish cities in Egypt but there was no widespread conquest or subjugation until Alexander time and Macedonia aren't white and Alexander himself isn't depicted as white. And after his death Egypt was considered independent [/quote]

Explain

upload an image

Does that honestly look like a White man to you?

And the fact that all of what was considered Macedonia was completly dominated by Darius the Great a Persian with alot of interracial relationships being encourged. Almost as bad as saying sicilians are white when Moors completly conquered Italy

 

[zzombie]

@The_Jackal

Yes he looks white, just because Macedonia AND Greece were influenced by the Persians for a while does not mean Alexander was not white or that he was mixed to any significant degree. To begin with the ancient Persians themselves were most likely white seeing as how they descend from indo-europeans who lived in central asia and eastern europe

Europeans completely conquered Africa that does not mean all the Africans were white

 

[The_Jackal]

@The_Jackal

Yes he looks white, just because Macedonia AND Greece were influenced by the Persians for a while does not mean Alexander was not white or that he was mixed to any significant degree. To begin with the ancient Persians themselves were most likely white seeing as how they descend from indo-europeans who lived in central asia and eastern europe

Europeans completely conquered Africa that does not mean all the Africans were white

I guess it's just a difference in opinion he looks ambiguous to me honestly.

As far as Persians being descended from Indo-European it's theorized that they were descended from the Arran Tribe but at the same time that Aryan was used as a specific location Āryāvarta and it's only until later that it was used to represent an Ethnic group.

And I'm not debating Europeans gaining control of Africa just exactly when but if everyone wants to classify Alexander as white I'll concede that point

 

[Ajackson17]

White, Black, Yellow, Red and etc has no place in ancient ethnic groups. We need to quit using very outdated and very unscientific terms when we are qualifying ancient people. These are political/social terms only.

 

[zzombie]

White, Black, Yellow, Red and etc has no place in ancient ethnic groups. We need to quit using very outdated and very unscientific terms when we are qualifying ancient people. These are political/social terms only.

No we don't we just have to tell the truth there is no need to ignore racial classification if anything science tries to classify and categorize more and more of the world and it's history not less

 

[Ajackson17]

White, Black, Yellow, Red and etc has no place in ancient ethnic groups. We need to quit using very outdated and very unscientific terms when we are qualifying ancient people. These are political/social terms only.

No we don't we just have to tell the truth there is no need to ignore racial classification if anything science tries to classify and categorize more and more of the world and it's history not less

Well, I'm ignoring it because it's ridiculous on classifying people as such when humans are more complex than this. White doesn't describe Greeks and in their white supremacist doctrine the Greeks would be seen as other.

 

[PILL_COSBY]

What does those pictures being around mean other than a lot of people hang them up???? What does the tv depictions of Jesus have to do with what is actually taught current by Christian theology???? And what is in the bible.

@BARON_$AMEDI please for once can you make a coherent argument that's not based on assumptions or flat out wrong information.

LOL did you not read my first post? The bold in your own post explains it all. My nigga you are not a child and I don't think I need to explain this shit to you like you are one. Why can you see "coherent arguments" whenever I'm speaking on fuck shit in Islam, but not christianity? What is not "coherent" about me pointing out this blatant blasphemy of jesus being very popular all over the world. Why isn't the actual description of jesus in the bible super popular like the false one?

I really don't get the point of this thread . what about all the hundreds of depictions of dark skin biblical figures that can be found in churches all over the world including Ethiopia.

Yeah..........what about them? That's a good fucking question, kinda like another way of asking the same question that I just asked. What about all the obvious statues and paintings of niggas in egypt? But yet and still, shit like this keeps happening.

Quit playing dumb my nigga!

Christianity in Ethiopia was not started by white people. The Greeks and Romans never ruled Ethiopia.

Ethiopia is poor but it's not because of any religion.

So where did christianity come from? It sure as hell didn't come from black folks or africa. THAT AINT OUR SHIT! Talk to some ethiopians who's family never drank the kool-aid of outsiders.They will tell you the true story about christianity and Islam. So will none brainwashed black egyptions(yes, they're still there), somali's, and niggas in etruria. Y'all gone seriously sit there with a straight face and believe that we stopped doing what we was doing since forever because some cracka showed up telling stories? Christianity is notorious for covering up, erasing, sugar coating, and rewriting their atrocities all throughout history. So is islam, but not as bad as christianity(and all forms of it). As an "AWAKE" black man who's ancestors were dumped on them islands by christian white devils, you should know this.

You might as well believe crackas never had nothing to do with hundreds of years of evil done to our people. We did it to ourselves, we sold all of our loved ones into hundreds of years of hell. Your ancestors just hopped on a boat and went to those islands freely, to work for free, fuck AFRICA! Black people were also godless savages jumping around in trees until the white man gave us jesus and civilized us.................

 

[PILL_COSBY]

White, Black, Yellow, Red and etc has no place in ancient ethnic groups. We need to quit using very outdated and very unscientific terms when we are qualifying ancient people. These are political/social terms only.

No we don't we just have to tell the truth there is no need to ignore racial classification if anything science tries to classify and categorize more and more of the world and it's history not less

Well, I'm ignoring it because it's ridiculous on classifying people as such when humans are more complex than this. White doesn't describe Greeks and in their white supremacist doctrine the Greeks would be seen as other.

You forgot to mention that crackas came up with the fucked up concept of "race".

And oh yeah @Ajackson17

Assimilation is a mothafucka. Use the united states and somalia as a perfect reference. Think about that for a minute.

Happy black history month

 

[The_Jackal]

Shit Romans thought Blonde hair and Blue eyes was some straight plebeian barbaric shit.

 

[zzombie]

What does those pictures being around mean other than a lot of people hang them up???? What does the tv depictions of Jesus have to do with what is actually taught current by Christian theology???? And what is in the bible.

@BARON_$AMEDI please for once can you make a coherent argument that's not based on assumptions or flat out wrong information.

LOL did you not read my first post? The bold in your own post explains it all. My nigga you are not a child and I don't think I need to explain this shit to you like you are one. Why can you see "coherent arguments" whenever I'm speaking on fuck shit in Islam, but not christianity? What is not "coherent" about me pointing out this blatant blasphemy of jesus being very popular all over the world. Why isn't the actual description of jesus in the bible super popular like the false one?

I really don't get the point of this thread . what about all the hundreds of depictions of dark skin biblical figures that can be found in churches all over the world including Ethiopia.

Yeah..........what about them? That's a good fucking question, kinda like another way of asking the same question that I just asked. What about all the obvious statues and paintings of niggas in egypt? But yet and still, shit like this keeps happening.

Quit playing dumb my nigga!

Christianity in Ethiopia was not started by white people. The Greeks and Romans never ruled Ethiopia.

Ethiopia is poor but it's not because of any religion.

So where did christianity come from? It sure as hell didn't come from black folks or africa. THAT AINT OUR SHIT! Talk to some ethiopians who's family never drank the kool-aid of outsiders.They will tell you the true story about christianity and Islam. So will none brainwashed black egyptions(yes, they're still there), somali's, and niggas in etruria. Y'all gone seriously sit there with a straight face and believe that we stopped doing what we was doing since forever because some cracka showed up telling stories? Christianity is notorious for covering up, erasing, sugar coating, and rewriting their atrocities all throughout history. So is islam, but not as bad as christianity(and all forms of it). As an "AWAKE" black man who's ancestors were dumped on them islands by christian white devils, you should know this.

You might as well believe crackas never had nothing to do with hundreds of years of evil done to our people. We did it to ourselves, we sold all of our loved ones into hundreds of years of hell. Your ancestors just hopped on a boat and went to those islands freely, to work for free, fuck AFRICA! Black people were also godless savages jumping around in trees until the white man gave us jesus and civilized us.................

According to the christian church of Ethiopia Christianity was introduce to the nation by Philip the evangelist when he converted an Ethiopian court official this account is actually in the bible and Judaism was in Ethiopia centuries before that and it was a king of Axum that made it the official religion.

My ancestors were the akan people from what is today ghana they admitted to selling slaves to Europeans so did the current traditional rulers of Dahomey and i can prove that because is has been well documented

The arguments you are making are not coherent to me because they don't prove what you are trying to make them prove. If i start making pictures of A WHITE MLK that becomes very popular is that suddenly going to make him white???? There is no blaspheme in making pictures of Jesus because Jesus walked on earth and the prohibition is against worshiping images of men not simply creating them. Black people did not draw those white Jesus pictures so why should we have a problem with whites doing so??? they can do what they please. You act as if black people believe everything white people portray is the truth so if Europeans make Jesus or ancient Egyptians white then automatically black people believe it. Niggga black people are not as stupid as you think they are

The problem with you is that you make too many leaps in logic and assumptions you are also very obnoxious

 

[PILL_COSBY]

Aight, you trolling now. This is just sad lol.

Ive seen that word "convert" soooo many times. If you look at history when it comes to the spreading of religions. The word "convert"is usually used as a substitute for "force".

and Philip don't sound african at all does it?

 

[zzombie]

Aight, you trolling now. This is just sad lol.

Ive seen that word "convert" soooo many times.

and Philip don't sound african at all does it?

Neither is john yet their are many black Africans named john around the time of christ a lot of jews took greek names and when we talk about Christianity in Ethiopia there was no forced conversion by whites that is historical fact that was documented by the Ethiopians themselves so what the fuck are you arguing??? you are the one that's trolling.

 

[PILL_COSBY]

If you look at history when it comes to the spreading of religions. The word "convert"is usually used as a substitute for "force". All the invaders of egypt "converted" people as well. Islam "converted" Somalia as well. Islam also "converted" christians to islam and christians "converted" muslims to islam as well. This happened in ethiopia if my memory serves me correct.

Somali's will tell you themselves and it's documented that they wasn't forced into islam.

Blacks will tell you that we accepted Christianity during slavery, it's also documented.

 

[zzombie]

You cannot just state something and have it be fact you have to actually prove it, the theology of Christianity does not indicated that Christ was white.

How individual cultures choose to depict him has nothing to do with the christian theology i.e the teachings of the Christ or what is laid down in the bible. In Ethiopia there are pictures of Christ and he's dark skinned in northern Europe he was depicted as white skinned the truth most likely is that he was brown and mixed looking like most of the people in that area called the middle east.

 

[zzombie]

If you look at history when it comes to the spreading of religions. The word "convert"is usually used as a substitute for "force". All the invaders of egypt "converted" people as well. Islam "converted" Somalia as well. Islam also "converted" christians to islam and christians "converted" muslims to islam as well. This happened in ethiopia if my memory serves me correct.

Somali's will tell you themselves and it's documented that they wasn't forced into islam.

Blacks will tell you that we accepted Christianity during slavery, it's also documented.

When i spoke of the conversion of Ethiopia there was no force involved European Christians forced conversions later on IN OTHER PLACES but that did not happen in Ethiopia and you need to be man enough to concede that fact. Your memory serves you wrong Christianity had slowly been growing in axum for a long time and when the king converted that was it the nation became christian and before that the similar religion of Judaism was there much longer. LOOK YOU ARE WRONG

 

[Ajackson17]

Shit Romans thought Blonde hair and Blue eyes was some straight plebeian barbaric shit.

They did and that's the funniest thing when White supremacists hold up Greek and Romans. They didn't like their asses.

 

[janklow]

I guess it's just a difference in opinion he looks ambiguous to me honestly.

well... there ARE variations of white folk

 

[kingblaze84]

Shit Romans thought Blonde hair and Blue eyes was some straight plebeian barbaric shit.

They did and that's the funniest thing when White supremacists hold up Greek and Romans. They didn't like their asses.

White supremacists still love the fact the Greeks and Romans were White though, mostly White at least. But it is true the Romans didn't really like the Germanic types.