The End Of Black Harlem (Long, But Good Read)

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Interestingly, not all gentrifiers are comfortable with the change they’re bringing. “I couldn’t afford it, and I’m relieved,” Rene Gatling, who moved to Harlem in 2009 but left in 2014 for Connecticut, told me. But it wasn’t just price that persuaded her to leave. “Suddenly I thought, Why is there no anger, no push back? Our being here is pushing people out.”

Blacks who relocated here when Harlem was still affordable have been disillusioned, too. When I told Sharifa Rhodes-Pitts, who wrote the elegiac book “Harlem Is Nowhere,” about the group Save Harlem Now! just the name made her respond, “It’s too late.” She said that she and her young son were moving out. “It costs too much.”

Still Harlem endures as a community with high hopes, and in 2013, we felt sure we had found a champion. Bill de Blasio ran as the mayor for everyone, which we figured had to include Harlem. Black voters were crucial to his victory, and we thought we were covered and cared for. He even has a likable son, as liable to get stopped by the police as ours might.

We were wrong. The man we saw as “our mayor” may talk about housing affordability, but his vision is far from the rent control and public housing that President Franklin D. Roosevelt and Mayor Fiorello H. LaGuardia once supported, and that made New York affordable for generations. Instead, he has pushed for private development and identified unprotected, landmark-quality buildings as targets. He and the City Council have effectively swept aside contextual zoning limits, which curb development that might change the very essence of a neighborhood, in Harlem and Inwood, farther north. At best, his plan seems to be to develop at all speed and costs, optimistic that the tax revenues and good graces of the real estate barons allow for a few affordable apartments to be stuffed in later.

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And so even under “our mayor,” the dislocation of minorities continues apace. Gentrification in Harlem might well be likened to the progress of the British Raj, where the most that “civilizing” interlopers could muster was a patronizing interest in token elements of local culture. Thus: Yes to the hip Afro-fusion restaurant, but complaints to 311 over Sundae Sermon dances, barbecues and ball games in parks or church choir rehearsals.

These are people who, in saying “I don’t see color,” treat the neighborhood like a blank slate. They have no idea how insulting they are being, denying us our heritage and our stake in Harlem’s future. And, far from government intervention to keep us in our homes, houses of worship and schools, to protect buildings emblematic of black history, we see policies like destructive zoning, with false “trickle down” affordability, changes that incentivize yet more gentrification, sure to transfigure our Harlem forever.

But when we friends gather at a restaurant like Cheri for a convivial romp hosted by the owner, Alain, or on a Friday, at the Rooster, presided over by the D.J. Stormin Norman, we are every color, every race, every age, identity and class. In the moment, laughing, drinking and dancing together, it seems marvelous. This Harlem, this is what New York is supposed to look like, to be like. Only, most of us know that our fun times together are doomed.
 
Sad ish...

With Gentrification, correct me if I'm wrong... These people don't own anything correct? They are just renting and being priced out of their homes?

So if I'm renting out a condo for $1500 a month, but the next tenant is willing to pay $4000 or willing to buy of from me for $500K. I sell, for $500K. The original tenant is priced out of the home I OWN.

Is this an example of gentrification on a small scale?
 
I knew it was over when it was a line outside Sylvia's an most of the people were white and wondering if chicken gizzards taste good with gritz.
 
Really good read. Harlem is the epitome of an opportunity wasted. It should have been the shining star that all black communities strived to emulate. Simply put it was taken for granted. The abandoned boarded up buildings, trashed filled streets and crime waves was going to end one way or another. No way people were going to just sit back and ignore prime real estate like that. There should have been a push decades ago to get the locals to buy up the abandoned buildings and clean up the streets. The local leaders focused on the wrong things. One man's trash is another man's treasure.
 
Integration worked like a charm. When, Black communities were flourishing they consisted of Blacks from all economic classes. Middle and upper Class Blacks abandoned Black communities for White communities filled with the notion that white was superior. Or to show other Blacks that they had made it.
 
babelipsss;9057154 said:
Really good read. Harlem is the epitome of an opportunity wasted. It should have been the shining star that all black communities strived to emulate. Simply put it was taken for granted. The abandoned boarded up buildings, trashed filled streets and crime waves was going to end one way or another. No way people were going to just sit back and ignore prime real estate like that. There should have been a push decades ago to get the locals to buy up the abandoned buildings and clean up the streets. The local leaders focused on the wrong things. One man's trash is another man's treasure.

I agree with that in theory. However, it's not as easy as you make it out to be. NY is some of the most expensive and prime real estate in the world. Many of those land lords have owned that property for several generations and they aren't ever going to sell.
 
Harlem has the name recognition, but this than happened like 30 40 times throughout the nation in several different ways from san fran Chicago to Detroit

lessons to be learned, hindsight to 20/20

but never forget, niggas made harlem, not the other way around

we are the prize...not the locations or mediums..once we get that...really GET that..well be straight
 
Kwan Dai;9057281 said:
Integration worked like a charm. When, Black communities were flourishing they consisted of Blacks from all economic classes. Middle and upper Class Blacks abandoned Black communities for White communities filled with the notion that white was superior. Or to show other Blacks that they had made it.

That part of it but remember the heroine and crack epidemics ravaged Harlem and other black neighborhoods
 
AggyAF;9057341 said:
Kwan Dai;9057281 said:
Integration worked like a charm. When, Black communities were flourishing they consisted of Blacks from all economic classes. Middle and upper Class Blacks abandoned Black communities for White communities filled with the notion that white was superior. Or to show other Blacks that they had made it.

That part of it but remember the heroine and crack epidemics ravaged Harlem and other black neighborhoods

kinda like a nail in the coffin..we got hit wit at least a triple whammy. industrializtion helped make us, n deindustrialization helped break us

moving forward, we have to take note that ur on borrowed time if ur position was built by others...history shows thats unsustainable. ..our relative prosperity was painfully short lived
 
AggyAF;9057341 said:
Kwan Dai;9057281 said:
Integration worked like a charm. When, Black communities were flourishing they consisted of Blacks from all economic classes. Middle and upper Class Blacks abandoned Black communities for White communities filled with the notion that white was superior. Or to show other Blacks that they had made it.

That part of it but remember the heroine and crack epidemics ravaged Harlem and other black neighborhoods

I am not discounting those truths. However, integration made it easier for Blacks with resources to wash their hands by moving to white communities where the perception was it was "safer". When we should have taken the steps to deal with addiction they way whites do. Which is build rehab centers, and support organizations for addicts and recovering addicts. Which, would have created jobs, and opportunities for Blacks who were systematically put out of work by the Nixon and Reagan administrations.
 
LPast;9057051 said:
Sad ish...

With Gentrification, correct me if I'm wrong... These people don't own anything correct? They are just renting and being priced out of their homes?

So if I'm renting out a condo for $1500 a month, but the next tenant is willing to pay $4000 or willing to buy of from me for $500K. I sell, for $500K. The original tenant is priced out of the home I OWN.

Is this an example of gentrification on a small scale?

Not 100% correct. All gentrification is not bad. The bad comes when you have older homeOWNERS who are retired and on a fixed income. Now properties that were being rented, abandoned or the owner just wants to sell are now be sold for 500K and up. That raises the property taxes for everyone. So now if the older homeowners on a fixed income can't pay the high increase in property taxes because of the price the other homes are now selling for they have to move and if they don't the city takes their house for not paying the property taxes.

Its a fucked up game. A person can own their house for generations but if you can't pay the property tax increase you either have to move or lose the house.
 
That's happening here in Chicago, Cabrini Green, man you should see the area now, if you didn't know you would never have known it was there
 
D. Morgan;9057409 said:
LPast;9057051 said:
Sad ish...

With Gentrification, correct me if I'm wrong... These people don't own anything correct? They are just renting and being priced out of their homes?

So if I'm renting out a condo for $1500 a month, but the next tenant is willing to pay $4000 or willing to buy of from me for $500K. I sell, for $500K. The original tenant is priced out of the home I OWN.

Is this an example of gentrification on a small scale?

Its a fucked up game. A person can own their house for generations but if you can't pay the property tax increase you either have to move or lose the house.

soooooooooo many niggas who inhereted houses (most of which is in now consideres "the hood" ) lost inherited property passed down from the 40s onward. im speaking on personal observation here. my goddamn childhood block n beyond.

largely a byproduct of deindustrialization. ..what brought niggas to these cities up n left
 
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king hassan;9057420 said:
That's happening here in Chicago, Cabrini Green, man you should see the area now, if you didn't know you would never have known it was there

target n bikers everywhere at all times of night. cloggin up the goddamn street .....fools still be getting clapped over there though lmao...on the north side?! ya dont say!
 
I Self Lord & Master;9057428 said:
D. Morgan;9057409 said:
LPast;9057051 said:
Sad ish...

With Gentrification, correct me if I'm wrong... These people don't own anything correct? They are just renting and being priced out of their homes?

So if I'm renting out a condo for $1500 a month, but the next tenant is willing to pay $4000 or willing to buy of from me for $500K. I sell, for $500K. The original tenant is priced out of the home I OWN.

Is this an example of gentrification on a small scale?

Its a fucked up game. A person can own their house for generations but if you can't pay the property tax increase you either have to move or lose the house.

soooooooooo many niggas who inhereted houses (most of which is in now consideres "the hood" ) lost inherited property passed down from the 40s onward. im speaking on personal observation here. my goddamn childhood block n beyond.

largely a byproduct of deindustrialization. ..what brought niggas to these cities up n left

I have seen it and been personally hurt by the shit as well.

The shit is so fucked up because you got grandparents and parents who fought and lived through jim crow and shit like that who worked so hard to own a home. Pass the house down to their kids or grandkids just to have them lose the fucking house cause they junkies, in and out of jail, ain't shit or didn't know they had to pay property taxes. Then get hit with back owed property tax bill that is a couple of thousand and can't pay it so now they take short money and sale the house or just flat out lose it cause they never even respond to tax notice.

 
D. Morgan;9057494 said:
I Self Lord & Master;9057428 said:
D. Morgan;9057409 said:
LPast;9057051 said:
Sad ish...

With Gentrification, correct me if I'm wrong... These people don't own anything correct? They are just renting and being priced out of their homes?

So if I'm renting out a condo for $1500 a month, but the next tenant is willing to pay $4000 or willing to buy of from me for $500K. I sell, for $500K. The original tenant is priced out of the home I OWN.

Is this an example of gentrification on a small scale?

Its a fucked up game. A person can own their house for generations but if you can't pay the property tax increase you either have to move or lose the house.

soooooooooo many niggas who inhereted houses (most of which is in now consideres "the hood" ) lost inherited property passed down from the 40s onward. im speaking on personal observation here. my goddamn childhood block n beyond.

largely a byproduct of deindustrialization. ..what brought niggas to these cities up n left

I have seen it and been personally hurt by the shit as well.

The shit is so fucked up because you got grandparents and parents who fought and lived through jim crow and shit like that who worked so hard to own a home. Pass the house down to their kids or grandkids just to have them lose the fucking house cause they junkies, in and out of jail, ain't shit or didn't know they had to pay property taxes. Then get hit with back owed property tax bill that is a couple of thousand and can't pay it so now they take short money and sale the house or just flat out lose it cause they never even respond to tax notice.

Man you just said a mouthful in this post. A lot of people to busy kicking it and hanging out to maintain a house and they get the quick money from the sale and they spend that up quick so they still losing. I have a friend whose mother has a nice brick bungalow but she says if she passes she will sale the house because she don't want the responsibility because she likes to smoke weed and hang out to much. SMH and she lives in a Chicago bungalow district where they take care of them for you outside of your own maintenance, Shit is sad man
 
I Self Lord & Master;9057433 said:
king hassan;9057420 said:
That's happening here in Chicago, Cabrini Green, man you should see the area now, if you didn't know you would never have known it was there

target n bikers everywhere at all times of night. cloggin up the goddamn street .....fools still be getting clapped over there though lmao...on the north side?! ya dont say!

Its mixed income housing ....plus the low rises which were the original Greens before the towers are still there
 

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