allahdivinecipher
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rip.dilla;993246 said:
Yeah BP# had sum sucky beats. I liked the beats to "DOA" and "On To The Next One". The rest sucked doe.
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Yeah BP# had sum sucky beats. I liked the beats to "DOA" and "On To The Next One". The rest sucked doe.
allahdivinecipher
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yeah it was ok i guess, those ones stuck out to me though because i remember them since they were the singles though. I thought BP3 was really disappointing, although it had sum tunes i can bump ya know
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TheSouthrnGent
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I think it's ALL music....You have good and wack rappers on both sides....you have good and wack producers on both sides....you have love and hate on both sides. Andre 3000, Scarface, Cee-Lo....get love on both sides, and they rep the South. Then you have Jay-Z, B.I.G., Jadakiss.....who get love on both sides, and they rep the East. Usually the bullshit only comes in when dealing with either stans, or artists who's relevance has gone down, and they need an excuse.
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JokerzWyld
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Hey Dilla, I would say yes, The East is more focused on lyrical skill & the South more focused on production. I feel from listening to hip hop for years that the East has taken on the legacy of "The Message" whereas the South has taken on the legacy of "Rapper's Delight". Both songs good in their own right, but one is designed for parties & dancing, the other is designed for listening to. I don't consider either form (of hip hop) to be better than the other, however, you can say rappers who do whatever form of hip hop is better or worse than the other. The one more focused on partying or "banging in the whip" does require excellent production to carry it, and likewise, the other uses lyricism to carry it.
For example take the albums of Rick Ross & Nas. Without saying that one artist's catalog is better than the other's, you can see a difference immediately. One has a reputation for having some of the best production to carry his album, the other is considered one of the best lyricists and thus uses lyrics to carry his albums. Personally i like the latter because albums and songs that are lyrical are more timeless than shit that bangs in the whip, or at least from what i've seen.
For example take the albums of Rick Ross & Nas. Without saying that one artist's catalog is better than the other's, you can see a difference immediately. One has a reputation for having some of the best production to carry his album, the other is considered one of the best lyricists and thus uses lyrics to carry his albums. Personally i like the latter because albums and songs that are lyrical are more timeless than shit that bangs in the whip, or at least from what i've seen.
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rip.dilla;984087 said:
Well the way I see it, I partially agree because the east is really known for lyricism and wordplay, but while the south is big on beats and productions i think if we go back in history the south started off with cats who were lyrical but also paid attention to the production.A good example would be 8ball & MJG - On Top of the World album. Secondly the south was & still is mostly into reality rap, we like to hear something we could relate to, rappers talking about the struggle take for example the Geto Boys song Crooked Officer or Ugk's Protect & Serve. Now also the south was really into west coast g-funk/gangsta music back in da day and this might of influenced some music like Mr. Mike and South Circle from Suave House. Plus we was into Midwest cats like Top Authority & Dayton Family that real gangsta shit, you heard that alot down here in the early 90's. You also have to realize how big the south is from Texas to N.C. is a lot of land & different trends, vibes music etc, so while you got Texas(H-Town) with the laid back Screwed up vibe, you got N.O. Bounce, Miami Bass and so on. Now as for today it may be diff. but it def. didnt start out that way. Bottom line me personally I like that music I could feel no matter where its from...
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5th Letter
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But why cant we have complete songs anymore? Why a rapper cant be good on the mic (I dont mean lyrical) and make party club music? Why we gotta have one or the other?
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Sm00thness101
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IMO it's currently deadlock. There are some lyricist in the south (3000, big boi, chamillionaire..) but the lame ass niggas with no skill and great production currently gettin all the play (soulja boy). But on the sly, everybody know the south ran hip hop from late 2005-2008. That's why ppl say it hasn't been classic since college dropout. That's the last thing they wanna do is say a southern artist besides scarface dropped a classic.
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south4life
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Well I was born in The South and I love East Coast Hip Hop as well.
I did alot of moving around when I was younger because my stepdad was in the army, so I got the chance to experience different sounds other than The South.
The reason why most East Coast cats don't like The South is because, they never really had the opportunity to be apart of The South environment, they are always in their state. U see dudes like Diddy and Fat Joe always in The South, if The South was always dirty and country like Up North folks say, then why they always vacationing here?
The same goes for Southern cats that don't like East Coast. The East Coast cats and The Southern cats went thru different things in life, so the music is gonna sound different, that's what makes Hip Hop so unique. Everybody has their own style like The West Coast, East Coast cats didn't like them because they were a different sound.
Any sound that is not a New York sound is always considered wack or lame to them because they feel like they should be the only ones in the game.
With all do respect with The South, West and Midwest, Hip Hop wouldn't have become a Global Icon like it is today, if New Yorkers had it their way it would be a New York thing only and it would have stayed an underground genre.
Jay-Z wouldn't be a big corporate dude, he would have still been on the street slanging, it took the other areas to get in and that is what made Hip Hop.
I love being from The South, I don't care how much people hate us and I will always be proud of being a Southern Boy.
U should be proud of where u come from, not giving a damn what people say, just because I wasn't born in New York doesn't mean I don't matter.
That's the problem with New Yorkers, they think that they are The United States! It takes 50 states to make The U.S., not one.
They think that if u wasn't born in New York, u really nothing and that is far from the truth.
West Coast Hip Hop is about G Funk, Roger Troutman, Parliament Funkadelic music with Gang stories, The South Hip Hop is about Soul, William DeVaughn, Micahel Jackson, Party music with Dope Boy stories, East Coast and Midwest Hip Hop is about James Brown, Rick James, grimy music with Street stories. Every region has their own niche in Hip Hop and that is what Hip Hop needed, one dimensional shit would have made Hip Hop stale and it would have not lasted this long.
Yes we Southerners like Bass and Drums in our music, we like to ride around with that Bang in the trunk but, that don't make it any different then West Coast dudes riding around in their low riders with the Bass up or East Coast and Midwest dudes riding around with the windows down going 2 miles an hour so everybody sees them, u gonna want something in your ride that gets the females attention. Here in the South it's Bass and Drums with a party type sound, I'm not saying I like everything that comes out The South but, I am saying that every region has good and bad. The reason Gucci Mane is getting alot of play and fans is because, there are niggas in The East Coast, Midwest and The West Coast that are listening to him! U can't get that much attention just from one region, the same niggas that are saying The South is killing Hip Hop are the same ones that are listening to Gucci. I don't like Gucci Mane but, Gucci has the Bass an Drums in his music that attracts listeners, just like Rick Ross.
U may not like them but, the beats they have gets your attention, I listen for the beat alone alot of times.
Well I was born in The South and I love East Coast Hip Hop as well.
I did alot of moving around when I was younger because my stepdad was in the army, so I got the chance to experience different sounds other than The South.
The reason why most East Coast cats don't like The South is because, they never really had the opportunity to be apart of The South environment, they are always in their state. U see dudes like Diddy and Fat Joe always in The South, if The South was always dirty and country like Up North folks say, then why they always vacationing here?
The same goes for Southern cats that don't like East Coast. The East Coast cats and The Southern cats went thru different things in life, so the music is gonna sound different, that's what makes Hip Hop so unique. Everybody has their own style like The West Coast, East Coast cats didn't like them because they were a different sound.
Any sound that is not a New York sound is always considered wack or lame to them because they feel like they should be the only ones in the game.
With all do respect with The South, West and Midwest, Hip Hop wouldn't have become a Global Icon like it is today, if New Yorkers had it their way it would be a New York thing only and it would have stayed an underground genre.
Jay-Z wouldn't be a big corporate dude, he would have still been on the street slanging, it took the other areas to get in and that is what made Hip Hop.
I love being from The South, I don't care how much people hate us and I will always be proud of being a Southern Boy.
U should be proud of where u come from, not giving a damn what people say, just because I wasn't born in New York doesn't mean I don't matter.
That's the problem with New Yorkers, they think that they are The United States! It takes 50 states to make The U.S., not one.
They think that if u wasn't born in New York, u really nothing and that is far from the truth.
West Coast Hip Hop is about G Funk, Roger Troutman, Parliament Funkadelic music with Gang stories, The South Hip Hop is about Soul, William DeVaughn, Micahel Jackson, Party music with Dope Boy stories, East Coast and Midwest Hip Hop is about James Brown, Rick James, grimy music with Street stories. Every region has their own niche in Hip Hop and that is what Hip Hop needed, one dimensional shit would have made Hip Hop stale and it would have not lasted this long.
Yes we Southerners like Bass and Drums in our music, we like to ride around with that Bang in the trunk but, that don't make it any different then West Coast dudes riding around in their low riders with the Bass up or East Coast and Midwest dudes riding around with the windows down going 2 miles an hour so everybody sees them, u gonna want something in your ride that gets the females attention. Here in the South it's Bass and Drums with a party type sound, I'm not saying I like everything that comes out The South but, I am saying that every region has good and bad. The reason Gucci Mane is getting alot of play and fans is because, there are niggas in The East Coast, Midwest and The West Coast that are listening to him! U can't get that much attention just from one region, the same niggas that are saying The South is killing Hip Hop are the same ones that are listening to Gucci. I don't like Gucci Mane but, Gucci has the Bass an Drums in his music that attracts listeners, just like Rick Ross.
U may not like them but, the beats they have gets your attention, I listen for the beat alone alot of times.
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5th Letter
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Sm00thness101;1002037 said:
i didn't say no southern rapper dropped a classic since CD, I said there has been no classics period. Y'all always think someone hating on the south.
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Alot of people I know that dislike the South are usually referring to the Dj unk,soulja boy shit. They are guys in their late 20s to early 30s who like hip hop but not enough to get online and go browsing for great southern artists that get no radioplay. Why would they when the perception is the South is mainly a bunch of ignorant sounding clowns dancing around? If Mcdonalds keeps feeding you shit sandwiches you're not going to break in an see if they got gourmet dishes..you're going to say mcdonalds is wack and keep moving.
They might love Outkast, TI, scarface, etc..but when they say "the south sucks" its a blanket statement referring to 80% of the music.
Yes it takes more than one region for that kinda shit to stay relevant and on the radios..but the people bitching about the south aren't the drunk bitch from the club who likes the song she grinded some dudes cock too or the young cat who wants the new soulja boy on his ringtone because all the bitches at school love it.
They might love Outkast, TI, scarface, etc..but when they say "the south sucks" its a blanket statement referring to 80% of the music.
Yes it takes more than one region for that kinda shit to stay relevant and on the radios..but the people bitching about the south aren't the drunk bitch from the club who likes the song she grinded some dudes cock too or the young cat who wants the new soulja boy on his ringtone because all the bitches at school love it.
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I'm THAT guy...
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hrap-120;1002013 said:
Ricky Rozay changed all that.
Listen to Teflon Don and you will see that the East & South are one nation under GOD.
Their is no region anymore its just US VS. Them.
That's why I can respect what artist like Ross are doing. He's not the most lyrical, but he drops good verses on great beats whereas other southern artist drop sub-par verses on great beats. When both South and East artist learn that you need to put those two elements together, than both regions can come together and make some of the best music Hip Hop has seen in a while.
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