The DC Movie Universe Has Some Major Problems That Are Being Overlooked

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5. Who The Heck Is Aquaman?

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Who the heck is Aquaman? Is that a joke? Aquaman? I know what you're going to say. You're going to say something like, "No one knew who Scarlet Witch was," or "No one knew who Falcon was." You're right. But they're a lot more grounded and believable then Aquaman.

Granted, Warner Brothers could pull this off if only they don't make Aquaman a laughing stock. They will have to nail the tone perfectly, or else Aquaman is going to look like an idiotic joke. Fanboys love Aquaman, but there's a lot of people out there who don't know who the heck Aquaman is and to them he sounds like a little kid's imaginary friend. Aquaman could be the next big superhero, or he could be the next DCCU clown.


4. Too Many Characters Way Too Soon

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If The Justice League doesn't learn from Avengers: Age of Ultron's mistake, then it's going to face plant and face plant hard. Here's the huge problem: there are way too many big name superheroes set to appear in the Justice League. Half of them won't even have their own solo movie yet. So my question is how the heck is Warner Brothers going to even remotely have any character development for them and due justice to the characters without either making a) a absolutely god-awful superhero mashup movie or b) a five hour long movie with way too much exposition.

We had two Captain America movies, three Iron Man movies, two Thor movies, and an Avengers movie to set up character development before we saw Avengers: Age of Ultron. Without those, we wouldn't have cared a nickel about any one of the Avengers. There's no possible way we are going to care about any of the Justice League members without them having their own solo movies first. Plus, there's no way Warner Brothers will even remotely be able to do the characters justice to their comic book counterparts in a short three hours. It's not going to happen, and fanboys will let them know it didn't happen after The Justice League falters.


3. Two Different Universes; Two Different Problems

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DC faces a really big problem that's going to come full circle and bite them in the rear. They chose to make a separate TV universe from their movie universe. Initially, that sounded promising until a problem arose. The problem is that not only are fans going to be utterly befuddled with different events and characters, but fans are also going to prefer characters rather than others. For example, what happens when we have two different Flashes running around? Will we vote for Ezra Miller's or stay loyal to Grant Gustin's?

One could argue that Warner Brothers opted for the lazier, faster option of having two different universes in order to catch up with Marvel. Regardless if that's true or not, there are going to be problems with both universes. DC is going to get double-power kicked and it's going to hurt them. Unlike Marvel, they won't be able to fix their movies with a TV show explanation or vice versa. In a nutshell, Warner Brothers just chopped off their own leg and is only begging for worse.


2. They Might Follow Marvel Too Closely

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Marvel has done an out-of-this-world great job setting up an organized, linear plan for their movies. They have built a world that has blown fans minds. They set up their big bad from the very first Avengers movie, and have been working to that final showdown ever since. It's quite nice to be a Marvel fanboy right now.

The DCCU on the other hand appears to be a jumbled mess. They could scramble the order and try to set up in phases like Marvel; setting up a big bad somewhere in the future and then setting their goal on making a world changing showdown in three or four Justice League movies. The only problem is, then that people wouldn't bother watching a lack-luster copy cat version of Marvel. So what's the solution? I don't have a clue, and I don't think Warner Brothers does either. They can't follow Marvel too closely and risk losing fans, and they can't make their movies spaghetti fashion either and risk losing fans that way. It's a real conundrum.


1. The Golden Age Is Ending

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All good things must come to an end. The Golden Age of superhero movies and is now, but it's starting to end very slowly. If you close your eyes you can smell it, the faint smell of exhaustion. Fans are growing weary of going to the theater every few months; they are growing weary of big guys in colorful suits destroying aliens and other threats.

With the increased output of superhero movies we're about to see this next year, there's a pretty great chance fans are going to feel winded. Marvel has a distinct advantage in that they've built their trust with fans. Fans will go see their movies because they know it's worth it, even if they are increasingly exhausted of seeing superheroes. The DCCU has a huge problem in that it's just starting. Who knows if fans are going to want to give the extra energy to see yet more Batman and Superman. Maybe they can survive, but there's do doubt about it that the DCCU is going to have an extremely rough time fighting for survival these next few years.


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Yeah, I love the MCU but I also love Batman and Superman. I'm a superhero fan, so it doesn't matter if it's DC or Marvel. But we've been kidding ourselves when we say that the DCCU is going to be just fine; it's not. It has some major problems, and unless Warner Brothers manages to fix them, these problems could ruin the DCCU even before it starts.

 
100 CS on n.10 and maybe no.4 but the rest is based on what? The golden age of comic movies is endin'? What's he on about? Marvel already proved a buncha times you don't need to be a popular hero to have a good movie.

Niggas don't wanna include the pre-MCU movies when talkin' Marvel but wanna talk about that wack AF Green Lantern come on man. 'too dark to make money' smh he's one of those idiots
 
CeLLaR-DooR;9015603 said:
100 CS on n.10 and maybe no.4 but the rest is based on what? The golden age of comic movies is endin'? What's he on about? Marvel already proved a buncha times you don't need to be a popular hero to have a good movie.

Niggas don't wanna include the pre-MCU movies when talkin' Marvel but wanna talk about that wack AF Green Lantern come on man. 'too dark to make money' smh he's one of those idiots

Aint nobody see Guardians of the Galaxy doing what it did, I aint never heard of any of dem niggas in that movie
 
5onblackhandside;9015651 said:
Ain't nobody see Guardians of the Galaxy doing what it did. I ain't never heard of any of dem niggas in that movie

Not only that, the GOTG roster in the movie wasn't even the characters in the book. These are the characters that were in the book.

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Maximus Rex;9015678 said:
5onblackhandside;9015651 said:
Ain't nobody see Guardians of the Galaxy doing what it did. I ain't never heard of any of dem niggas in that movie

Not only that, the GOTG roster in the movie wasn't even the characters in the book. These are the characters that were in the book.

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And they managed to keep everyone happy. Even the fanboys, despite the changes (@X-Men supporters)
 
CeLLaR-DooR;9015603 said:
100 CS on n.10 and maybe no.4 but the rest is based on what? The golden age of comic movies is endin'? What's he on about? Marvel already proved a buncha times you don't need to be a popular hero to have a good movie.

Niggas don't wanna include the pre-MCU movies when talkin' Marvel but wanna talk about that wack AF Green Lantern come on man. 'too dark to make money' smh he's one of those idiots

This article was written 5 almost 6 months before BVS came out. Its One of the countless articles of its type being highly critical and dismissive before any movie came out.

These type of articles were being written for months leading up to BVS.

So when dc fans say there seemed to be some kind of bias towards the DCU there is grounds and evidence to support that theory.
 
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BoyPussy;9015791 said:
Maybe I'm being optimistic but I think Jared Leto's joker could stand up to Heath's. We'll see tho.

I agree. It isn't about recreating what ledger, nicholson, or romero did. It's about making the character your own.
 
BoyPussy;9015791 said:
Maybe I'm being optimistic but I think Jared Leto's joker could stand up to Heath's. We'll see tho.

Leto is going to be the best joker I think. Definitely going off of the darker storyline for the joker too where he was the most fucked up.
 
BoyPussy;9015791 said:
Maybe I'm being optimistic but I think Jared Leto's joker could stand up to Heath's. We'll see tho.

The tattoos still bug the hell outta me for some reason. Seeing him slap the shit out of harley then pissing on her though made me want to give that movie a chance.
 
So DC is somehow both trying too much to be like Marvel, yet also not trying hard enough to be like Marvel?

You know what the difference between Marvel and DC's approach is? Marvel had the tasks of both educating us on who their characters were while simultaneously convincing us that we should care enough to watch movie after movie.

DC doesn't have that problem. When you hear the names Wonder Woman, Batman, and Superman, and also Green Lantern and Aquaman, there is instant name recognition. The word "Justice" alone invokes a certain image. Justice League, Superfriends, etc... DC doesn't have to educate us on their characters because we've known them all of our lives. And I'm not just talking bout the comic book nerds of the world, but those of us who get all of our knowledge from the cartoons, movies, and video games of the 80's, 90's, and 2000's. All DC has to do is execute an acceptable incarnation of something we already know and love.

As faithful as Marvel has been, though they deviate from the source material alot, if they gave us a completely different Iron man or Thor, most of us wouldn't flinch because outside of Spiderman, Hulk, and X-Men, Marvel characters aren't THAT popular in pop culture compared to DC. That's what these MCU fanboy won't admit. They're like the kid who got bullied in school who grew up to be his bully's boss and now it's time for revenge. Deep down, they're just compensating for the past (pre-MCU) that they never had.
 
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CeLLaR-DooR;9015603 said:
100 CS on n.10 and maybe no.4 but the rest is based on what? The golden age of comic movies is endin'? What's he on about? Marvel already proved a buncha times you don't need to be a popular hero to have a good movie.

Niggas don't wanna include the pre-MCU movies when talkin' Marvel but wanna talk about that wack AF Green Lantern come on man. 'too dark to make money' smh he's one of those idiots

Exactly. We're already on a 3rd Spiderman and a 2nd reboot and the first SM movie came out in 2002. You got all 3 awful Fantastic 4 movies, the 2 Hulk movies, Daredevil, and some mediocre Wolverine movies.

 
I strongly disagree with number 10 and cutting corners is a God thing with each. Do we really need to wait another 4or5 years through 5 or 6 justice league set up movies when most of us knows who these characters are ,their origins and their motivations?

And what's up with that dumb justice league photo manip? The rock as John Stewart is a horrible idea. I don't like him as roadblock in the g I Joe movie I definitely I don't want to see him as green lantern
 
Maximus Rex;9015678 said:
5onblackhandside;9015651 said:
Ain't nobody see Guardians of the Galaxy doing what it did. I ain't never heard of any of dem niggas in that movie
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Not only that, the GOTG roster in the movie wasn't even the characters in the book. These are the characters that were in the book.

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I had that issue when I was in school
 
DA_Executionah! ;9042074 said:
I strongly disagree with number 10 and cutting corners is a God thing with each. Do we really need to wait another 4or5 years through 5 or 6 justice league set up movies when most of us knows who these characters are ,their origins and their motivations?

And what's up with that dumb justice league photo manip? The rock as John Stewart is a horrible idea. I don't like him as roadblock in the g I Joe movie I definitely I don't want to see him as green lantern

The Rock will be playing Black Adam this should be common knowledge.

 
soul rattler;9041982 said:
So DC is somehow both trying too much to be like Marvel, yet also not trying hard enough to be like Marvel?

You know what the difference between Marvel and DC's approach is? Marvel had the tasks of both educating us on who their characters were while simultaneously convincing us that we should care enough to watch movie after movie.

DC doesn't have that problem. When you hear the names Wonder Woman, Batman, and Superman, and also Green Lantern and Aquaman, there is instant name recognition. The word "Justice" alone invokes a certain image. Justice League, Superfriends, etc... DC doesn't have to educate us on their characters because we've known them all of our lives. And I'm not just talking bout the comic book nerds of the world, but those of us who get all of our knowledge from the cartoons, movies, and video games of the 80's, 90's, and 2000's. All DC has to do is execute an acceptable incarnation of something we already know and love.

That's one hella of point. Did Marvel Studios hella change the game, yes, but DC is working off of the brand name recognition of the not only the three most important and well known superheroes in fandom, but also in popular culture. DC is like iPhones, J's, and Beats, people are going to fuck with them just because.

Which why BvsS shouldn't have been the project they did, (at least not right now anyway,) and the damn sure as hella should have did The Death of Superman, somebody should have dreaded that shit. As you previously stated we already know Supes, The Batman's, and due to the TV show (and yes a lackluster movie) know Barry's and Hal's origin story. So that would have only left Diana's, J'onn's and Aquaman to be introduced to the public. Maybe DC should have took that route. I sincerely that Suicide Squad isn't dark comedy version of The Avengers. The people at the WB should have enough faith in the name recognition of their properties and screenwriters to do quality projects.


soul rattler;9041982 said:
As faithful as Marvel has been, though they deviate from the source material alot, if they gave us a completely different Iron man or Thor, most of us wouldn't flinch because outside of Spiderman, Hulk, and X-Men, Marvel characters aren't THAT popular in pop culture compared to DC. That's what these MCU fanboy won't admit. They're like the kid who got bullied in school who grew up to be his bully's boss and now it's time for revenge. Deep down, they're just compensating for the past (pre-MCU) that they never had.

I'll do you one better than that potna. People seem to forget that the Avengers were Marvel's B and C list characters and Marvel Studios went with Cap, Iron Man, Thor, Widow, the Hulk, and Hawkeye, out of NECESSITY. If Marvel had the rights to Spidey, the Mutants, (and possibly F.F.,) we would have gotten Spidey and X-Men movies first, then we'd probably just now be in the middle of the Avengers related trilogies. I also think that if Marvel had F.F. that it would have been Galactus being teased all of this time instead of Thanks and we have been seeing Galactus devouring planets and shit.
 

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