The Cruel god of the Old Testament and evil in the Bible

[beenwize]

lol at you unwize I would b

reak down to you why 1_5 are wrong but you are a troll and no one here takes you serious so you might as well lose your password

Hiphop died over a decade ago and anybody on here discussing hiphop is a unconcious fool not worth taking serious.

Is YHWH/Ahayah REALLY the Supreme God???

Why did THE LORD kick the Woman and man out of the Garden?

Lmao let me show you why he is not THE SUPREME GOD.

He kicked them out BECAUSE OF WHAT THEY >MIGHT< do. An OMNISCIENT being does not go off of suppositions. (I edited this... continuing where I left off) Second of all, he said "...LEST HE PUT FORTH HIS HAND, AND TAKE ALSO OF THE TREE OF LIFE, AND EAT, AND LIVE FOREVER..."

Explain why an Omnipotent? Omniscient, SUPREME God would say that?

What YOUR GOD JUST Admitted is that if the MORTAL Man and Wombman Ate of the fruit of the tree of Life and became Immortal is that HE would NOT be able to Kill them.

Now what type of Omnipotent SUPREME God says that?

Your YHWH ELOHIM/LORD God is SOO Supreme yet if His creation eats of a fruit that can make them immortal then they gone be too much for him. SMDH.

If im wrong them explain to me EXACTLY WHY your God did not want them to eat of the tree of life. Because if he is the SUPREME God then He should be able to do ANYTHING and EVERYTHING RIGHT??? So why would Adam amd Eve being immortal and have THE EXACT Characteristics of YHWH be a Problem?

 

[Arya Tsaddiq]

Who do you propose the god of Abraham Isaac and Jacob is then? @beenwize

A false god?

If he is false then is the true for even spoke of in the bible?

do you believe anything in the bible is true?

 

[beenwize]

You just reiterated my point. You think that Christians think that the Bible is a primary source of how to live...so you argue against it...when that is not what the Bible is about.

Again...it's not about quotes. It is your perspective.

are you looking for a reasons to comment?

this is why non believers usually know the Bible better than believers.

Joshua 1:8

This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.

Deuteronomy 6:6-9

6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:

7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.

8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.

9 And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates.

Deuteronomy 11:18-21

18 Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.

19 And ye shall teach them your children, speaking of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.

20 And thou shalt write them upon the door posts of thine house, and upon thy gates:

You are looking at a tree and calling it a forest. Of course there are passages that stress how to live, but it is not the big picture. Jesus is the big picture.

Do you eat pork?

 

[beenwize]

Who do you propose the god of Abraham Isaac and Jacob is then? @beenwize

A false god?

If he is false then is the true for even spoke of in the bible?

do you believe anything in the bible is true?

because the god of Abraham as depicted in the KJV Old Testament is a false god and maybe even a demon.

There is to many points to list.

1. He sends bears to kill "children" for making fun of a prophet

2. He condones slavery.

3. He makes it lawful to have your foreskin circumcised. that alone shows us that he is a false god because if he is truly god he would create man already circumcised from birth...

4. he is jealous and a mass murderer.

5. he commands ppl to kill friends and family for worshipping imaginary gods and he commands the Israelites to kill entire towns.. Then he mentions to kill all the women children, but keep the "virgin women children" for yourselves. What type of god would allow "virgin women children" that just had their families slaughtered to be kept as property by the same men that killed their mom and dad? And not all women were kept. Only virgin women children so what do you suppose "virgin" women were left alive to do? smh!

This is nothing there is way too much to list and yes I do believe that the true god is spoken of in the BIble, but most of that is in the New Testament. I believe the Father Jesus came to reveal was not Yahweh or the god of the Old Testament irregardless of what the King James "version" Bible says.

My question to you is have you read the Bible cover to cover?

 

[zombie]

This nigga has an unhealthy obsession with king james it's like he does not believe that there are other version of the bible.

The god of the bible does not condone slavery as we know it

the so called "children" were really young men not 7 years olds

People had to under go circumcision as a sign of their commitment it also set them apart from others.

From gods perspective no one ever dies so he can't really murder and real death does not happen on earth.

And in times of war since he is also a war god he let the isralites slaughter their enemies all for the greater good

and in his mercy he let some of the women live.

 

[beenwize]

This nigga has an unhealthy obsession with king james it's like he does not believe that there are other version of the bible.

The god of the bible does not condone slavery as we know it

the so called "children" were really young men not 7 years olds

People had to under go circumcision as a sign of their commitment it also set them apart from others.

From gods perspective no one ever dies so he can't really murder and real death does not happen on earth.

And in times of war since he is also a war god he let the isralites slaughter their enemies all for the greater good

and in his mercy he let some of the women live.

The text is black and white so why lie? If you weren't lying you would quote some scripture.

Do you eat pork?

 

[beenwize]

And in times of war since he is also a war god he let the isralites slaughter their enemies all for the greater good

and in his mercy he let some of the women live.

fool.. he let some women live?

no he let "virgin" women children live to be kept as property by those who did the killing. if it was just about keeping some ppl alive why would it come down to "virgin" women children to be kept by MEN that just murdered their family?

 

[zombie]

And in times of war since he is also a war god he let the isralites slaughter their enemies all for the greater good

and in his mercy he let some of the women live.

fool.. he let some women live?

no he let "virgin" women children live to be kept as property by those who did the killing. if it was just about keeping some ppl alive why would it come down to "virgin" women children to be kept by MEN that just murdered their family?

well young virgin women are the easiest women to be kept anyone else would have been a problem later on down the line.

In ancient warfare that's how it was men and boys had to die for obvious reasons and old women are not of much use and they could not be trusted. SO it's wise to keep the young women and kill everyone else.

 

[zombie]

This nigga has an unhealthy obsession with king james it's like he does not believe that there are other version of the bible.

The god of the bible does not condone slavery as we know it

the so called "children" were really young men not 7 years olds

People had to under go circumcision as a sign of their commitment it also set them apart from others.

From gods perspective no one ever dies so he can't really murder and real death does not happen on earth.

And in times of war since he is also a war god he let the isralites slaughter their enemies all for the greater good

and in his mercy he let some of the women live.

The text is black and white so why lie? If you weren't lying you would quote some scripture.

Do you eat pork?

I don't eat pork and never have.

I am not quoting scripture because i don't feel i need to for you,you would just twist it anyway

 

[beenwize]

And in times of war since he is also a war god he let the isralites slaughter their enemies all for the greater good

and in his mercy he let some of the women live.

fool.. he let some women live?

no he let "virgin" women children live to be kept as property by those who did the killing. if it was just about keeping some ppl alive why would it come down to "virgin" women children to be kept by MEN that just murdered their family?

well young virgin women are the easiest women to be kept anyone else would have been a problem later on down the line.

In ancient warfare that's how it was men and boys had to die for obvious reasons and old women are not of much use and they could not be trusted. SO it's wise to keep the young women and kill everyone else.

So there you have it.. Your god is condoning slavery..

IF you tell a group of men that they can keep "virgin women" children as property what do you think they going to do with them? Your god said kill ALL MEN.. kill ALL WOMEN... keep ALIVE "virgin women children" for yourselves.

Either your god is condoning slavery or sex slaves. It's either or.

The true divine is not of this demonic type of shyt.

Do you have a daughter? How would you feel if you lived in that time and someone said god said for your virgin daughter to be kept alive to be given to his chosen ppl as war plunder after they kill you first?

Is that holy and righteous?

 

[zombie]

And in times of war since he is also a war god he let the isralites slaughter their enemies all for the greater good

and in his mercy he let some of the women live.

fool.. he let some women live?

no he let "virgin" women children live to be kept as property by those who did the killing. if it was just about keeping some ppl alive why would it come down to "virgin" women children to be kept by MEN that just murdered their family?

well young virgin women are the easiest women to be kept anyone else would have been a problem later on down the line.

In ancient warfare that's how it was men and boys had to die for obvious reasons and old women are not of much use and they could not be trusted. SO it's wise to keep the young women and kill everyone else.

So there you have it.. Your god is condoning slavery..

IF you tell a group of men that they can keep "virgin women" children as property what do you think they going to do with them? Your god said kill ALL MEN.. kill ALL WOMEN... keep ALIVE "virgin women children" for yourselves.

Either your god is condoning slavery or sex slaves. It's either or.

The true divine is not of this demonic type of shyt.

Do you have a daughter? How would you feel if you lived in that time and someone said god said for your virgin daughter to be kept alive to be given to his chosen ppl as war plunder after they kill you first?

Is that holy and righteous?

Slavery of other people came from war and it was done for the greater good so yes it was righteous. The cannites were an evil people anyway so when they endangered israel god made an example out of them.

 

[zombie]

WAR is not nice and in war especially in the ancient days slaves had to be taken it was either that or kill everybody. God let the isralites do this for a time and for a reason but that time is over. It's not more complex than that.

 

[beenwize]

And in times of war since he is also a war god he let the isralites slaughter their enemies all for the greater good

and in his mercy he let some of the women live.

fool.. he let some women live?

no he let "virgin" women children live to be kept as property by those who did the killing. if it was just about keeping some ppl alive why would it come down to "virgin" women children to be kept by MEN that just murdered their family?

well young virgin women are the easiest women to be kept anyone else would have been a problem later on down the line.

In ancient warfare that's how it was men and boys had to die for obvious reasons and old women are not of much use and they could not be trusted. SO it's wise to keep the young women and kill everyone else.

So there you have it.. Your god is condoning slavery..

IF you tell a group of men that they can keep "virgin women" children as property what do you think they going to do with them? Your god said kill ALL MEN.. kill ALL WOMEN... keep ALIVE "virgin women children" for yourselves.

Either your god is condoning slavery or sex slaves. It's either or.

The true divine is not of this demonic type of shyt.

Do you have a daughter? How would you feel if you lived in that time and someone said god said for your virgin daughter to be kept alive to be given to his chosen ppl as war plunder after they kill you first?

Is that holy and righteous?

Slavery of other people came from war and it was done for the greater good so yes it was righteous. The cannites were an evil people anyway so when they endangered israel god made an example out of them.

lol this is sad that you believe a wicked act like this is good.. you are calling evil good to suit your indoctrinated belief system.

if it was just about slavery alone then men would of been kept or any women and not so only "virgin" women "children"

you don't think that "your" ppl are deemed wicked and evil today? so therefore would it be right to take your daughter or niece that's lets say a 13 year old virgin and keep them as war plunder?

dude the whole purpose of keeping the "virgin" children was for sex or slavery point blank period.

what type of child should be kept as property by the same men that just slaughtered their whole family?

 

[zombie]

And in times of war since he is also a war god he let the isralites slaughter their enemies all for the greater good

and in his mercy he let some of the women live.

fool.. he let some women live?

no he let "virgin" women children live to be kept as property by those who did the killing. if it was just about keeping some ppl alive why would it come down to "virgin" women children to be kept by MEN that just murdered their family?

well young virgin women are the easiest women to be kept anyone else would have been a problem later on down the line.

In ancient warfare that's how it was men and boys had to die for obvious reasons and old women are not of much use and they could not be trusted. SO it's wise to keep the young women and kill everyone else.

So there you have it.. Your god is condoning slavery..

IF you tell a group of men that they can keep "virgin women" children as property what do you think they going to do with them? Your god said kill ALL MEN.. kill ALL WOMEN... keep ALIVE "virgin women children" for yourselves.

Either your god is condoning slavery or sex slaves. It's either or.

The true divine is not of this demonic type of shyt.

Do you have a daughter? How would you feel if you lived in that time and someone said god said for your virgin daughter to be kept alive to be given to his chosen ppl as war plunder after they kill you first?

Is that holy and righteous?

Slavery of other people came from war and it was done for the greater good so yes it was righteous. The cannites were an evil people anyway so when they endangered israel god made an example out of them.

lol this is sad that you believe a wicked act like this is good.. you are calling evil good to suit your indoctrinated belief system.

if it was just about slavery alone then men would of been kept or any women and not so only "virgin" women "children"

you don't think that "your" ppl are deemed wicked and evil today? so therefore would it be right to take your daughter or niece that's lets say a 13 year old virgin and keep them as war plunder?

dude the whole purpose of keeping the "virgin" children was for sex or slavery point blank period.

what type of child should be kept as property by the same men that just slaughtered their whole family?

It was actually an act of mercy. WAR and slavery back then was much more brutal and there were a whole list of laws that regulated slavery that kept it from being to brutal. Today we don't live under the same rules. The people of cannan practiced religious prostitution, incest and had sex with animals.

What should the isralites have done with the children let them die from starvation or be enslaved by some other nation that would have been even more brutal.

 

[beenwize]

And in times of war since he is also a war god he let the isralites slaughter their enemies all for the greater good

and in his mercy he let some of the women live.

fool.. he let some women live?

no he let "virgin" women children live to be kept as property by those who did the killing. if it was just about keeping some ppl alive why would it come down to "virgin" women children to be kept by MEN that just murdered their family?

well young virgin women are the easiest women to be kept anyone else would have been a problem later on down the line.

In ancient warfare that's how it was men and boys had to die for obvious reasons and old women are not of much use and they could not be trusted. SO it's wise to keep the young women and kill everyone else.

So there you have it.. Your god is condoning slavery..

IF you tell a group of men that they can keep "virgin women" children as property what do you think they going to do with them? Your god said kill ALL MEN.. kill ALL WOMEN... keep ALIVE "virgin women children" for yourselves.

Either your god is condoning slavery or sex slaves. It's either or.

The true divine is not of this demonic type of shyt.

Do you have a daughter? How would you feel if you lived in that time and someone said god said for your virgin daughter to be kept alive to be given to his chosen ppl as war plunder after they kill you first?

Is that holy and righteous?

Slavery of other people came from war and it was done for the greater good so yes it was righteous. The cannites were an evil people anyway so when they endangered israel god made an example out of them.

lol this is sad that you believe a wicked act like this is good.. you are calling evil good to suit your indoctrinated belief system.

if it was just about slavery alone then men would of been kept or any women and not so only "virgin" women "children"

you don't think that "your" ppl are deemed wicked and evil today? so therefore would it be right to take your daughter or niece that's lets say a 13 year old virgin and keep them as war plunder?

dude the whole purpose of keeping the "virgin" children was for sex or slavery point blank period.

what type of child should be kept as property by the same men that just slaughtered their whole family?

It was actually an act of mercy. WAR and slavery back then was much more brutal and there were a whole list of laws that regulated slavery that kept it from being to brutal. Today we don't live under the same rules. The people of cannan practiced religious prostitution, incest and had sex with animals.

What should the isralites have done with the children let them die from starvation or be enslaved by some other nation that would have been even more brutal.

so lets put you in the shoes of those killed with this scenario...

you have 3 kids and 1 of them is a virgin.. god commanding his chosen ppl to kill you and your 2 children, but keeping the "virgin" daughter alive for the killers to keep for themselves as property is an act of mercy?? smh!

you think the women children were happy and excited to be kept as property by the same men that just murdered their whole family? 11 and 13 year old girls at that. smh!

17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

 

[zombie]

And in times of war since he is also a war god he let the isralites slaughter their enemies all for the greater good

and in his mercy he let some of the women live.

fool.. he let some women live?

no he let "virgin" women children live to be kept as property by those who did the killing. if it was just about keeping some ppl alive why would it come down to "virgin" women children to be kept by MEN that just murdered their family?

well young virgin women are the easiest women to be kept anyone else would have been a problem later on down the line.

In ancient warfare that's how it was men and boys had to die for obvious reasons and old women are not of much use and they could not be trusted. SO it's wise to keep the young women and kill everyone else.

So there you have it.. Your god is condoning slavery..

IF you tell a group of men that they can keep "virgin women" children as property what do you think they going to do with them? Your god said kill ALL MEN.. kill ALL WOMEN... keep ALIVE "virgin women children" for yourselves.

Either your god is condoning slavery or sex slaves. It's either or.

The true divine is not of this demonic type of shyt.

Do you have a daughter? How would you feel if you lived in that time and someone said god said for your virgin daughter to be kept alive to be given to his chosen ppl as war plunder after they kill you first?

Is that holy and righteous?

Slavery of other people came from war and it was done for the greater good so yes it was righteous. The cannites were an evil people anyway so when they endangered israel god made an example out of them.

lol this is sad that you believe a wicked act like this is good.. you are calling evil good to suit your indoctrinated belief system.

if it was just about slavery alone then men would of been kept or any women and not so only "virgin" women "children"

you don't think that "your" ppl are deemed wicked and evil today? so therefore would it be right to take your daughter or niece that's lets say a 13 year old virgin and keep them as war plunder?

dude the whole purpose of keeping the "virgin" children was for sex or slavery point blank period.

what type of child should be kept as property by the same men that just slaughtered their whole family?

It was actually an act of mercy. WAR and slavery back then was much more brutal and there were a whole list of laws that regulated slavery that kept it from being to brutal. Today we don't live under the same rules. The people of cannan practiced religious prostitution, incest and had sex with animals.

What should the isralites have done with the children let them die from starvation or be enslaved by some other nation that would have been even more brutal.

so lets put you in the shoes of those killed with this scenario...

you have 3 kids and 1 of them is a virgin.. god commanding his chosen ppl to kill you and your 2 children, but keeping the "virgin" daughter alive for the killers to keep for themselves as property is an act of mercy?? smh!

you think the women children were happy and excited to be kept as property by the same men that just murdered their whole family? 11 and 13 year old girls at that. smh!

17 Now therefore kill every male among the little ones, and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him.

18 But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves.

At 13 and 11 they would get over it in time and besides if i was a cannite i probably would have ended up fucking my 13 year old anyway.

 

[zombie]

It was war shit happens. I would rather my daughter become a slave to a people that would at least give her some rights than to have her stave to death or be eaten by wild animals or be enslaved by worse people.

 

[beenwize]

this religion shyt has got ppl's minds fucked up.. so damn blinded that this nigga is calling evil good.

 

[zombie]

this religion shyt has got ppl's minds fucked up.. so damn blinded that this nigga is calling evil good.

Who are you to decide what is evil and what is good ?

 

[alissowack]

You just reiterated my point. You think that Christians think that the Bible is a primary source of how to live...so you argue against it...when that is not what the Bible is about.

Again...it's not about quotes. It is your perspective.

are you looking for a reasons to comment?

this is why non believers usually know the Bible better than believers.

Joshua 1:8

This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.

Deuteronomy 6:6-9

6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be in thine heart:

7 And thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.

8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes.

9 And thou shalt write them upon the posts of thy house, and on thy gates.

Deuteronomy 11:18-21

18 Therefore shall ye lay up these my words in your heart and in your soul, and bind them for a sign upon your hand, that they may be as frontlets between your eyes.

19 And ye shall teach them your children, speaking of them when thou sittest in thine house, and when thou walkest by the way, when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.

20 And thou shalt write them upon the door posts of thine house, and upon thy gates:

You are looking at a tree and calling it a forest. Of course there are passages that stress how to live, but it is not the big picture. Jesus is the big picture.

Do you eat pork?

I don't particularly see the relevance in asking this question. There are things in my lifetime that I have been a part of that maybe have done more harm than good to my health. There are things I wish I've done to give myself a fighting chance in living long in this world. However, my health and well being pales in comparison to the big picture.