The Chronic Vs Only Built 4 Cuban Linx

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Personally I hear shit from the Chronic all the time I guess this depends on where you are located Geographically a lot of kats have never even heard of OBFCL over here so my knowledge of the album is a Oddity unless it is a real head I am conversing with...
 
5 Grand;6794188 said:
goldenja;6793973 said:
achewon87;6793856 said:
Only Built For Cuban Links is a like a movie from beginning to end...

The Chronic goes hard but it's not fucking with that masterpiece...

If you would have put up Doggystyle it would have been much tougher choice for me...

@anchwon87

Nah, see these two albums made more sense to me because both were, how shall I say this... "solo/record label/debut" albums

Trust me, I got something else for that album... keep your eyes peeled for it

Yeah but Cuban Linx was a posse album too. Ghostface is on almost every song and there's several posse cuts like "Wu Gambinos", "Ice Cream" "Knuckleheadz" "Guilotine Swords" and "Verbal Intercourse"

by "record label" I meant "posse".. like everyone from the same group and record label (or special guest appearances) were on a lot of the tracks as well.

just couldn't think of the word at the moment lol
 
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But that's what I'm saying, Only Built For Cuban Linx is really a posse album, just like The chronic. On the Chronic Snoop and Kurrupt are the main MCs, on Cuban Linx Raekwon and Ghostface are the main MCs but they're both posse albums.
 
Stew;6794098 said:
The Lonious Monk;6793780 said:
n.mcfly;6793469 said:
Man I haven't heard the chronic in over 14yrs but I'll grab that purple tape in a heart beat

This. As good as the Chronic is, you don't really even hear anybody talking about it like that anymore.

So people are talkin about OB4CL and not one of the most influential albums ever? Oh

Yeah, I hear people talk more about OB4CL than the Chronic.

And I think people are overrating how influential the Chronic was. It laid the Blueprint for West Coast Rap. That's big, but that's about all it did. I'd say OB4CL was more influential. You can name more big named artists and albums that borrowed from it than you can for the Chronic. I can't say OB4CL invented the whole drug/mafioso rap motif since Kool G Rap is really the one to thank for that, but OB4CL sure as hell breathed life into and made it something everyone from the East was trying to bite for a while.
 
5 Grand;6794248 said:
But that's what I'm saying, Only Built For Cuban Linx is really a posse album, just like The chronic. On the Chronic Snoop and Kurrupt are the main MCs, on Cuban Linx Raekwon and Ghostface are the main MCs but they're both posse albums.

agreeeed.

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The Lonious Monk;6794251 said:
Stew;6794098 said:
The Lonious Monk;6793780 said:
n.mcfly;6793469 said:
Man I haven't heard the chronic in over 14yrs but I'll grab that purple tape in a heart beat

This. As good as the Chronic is, you don't really even hear anybody talking about it like that anymore.

So people are talkin about OB4CL and not one of the most influential albums ever? Oh

Yeah, I hear people talk more about OB4CL than the Chronic.

And I think people are overrating how influential the Chronic was. It laid the Blueprint for West Coast Rap. That's big, but that's about all it did. I'd say OB4CL was more influential. You can name more big named artists and albums that borrowed from it than you can for the Chronic. I can't say OB4CL invented the whole drug/mafioso rap motif since Kool G Rap is really the one to thank for that, but OB4CL sure as hell breathed life into and made it something everyone from the East was trying to bite for a while.

So what u saying is OB4CL changed the game more than The Chronic did?
 
Wu-Tang did change the game. But Only Built For Cuban Linx wasn't Wu-tangs first album so its not really a good comparison.

The Chronic changed the game because it was a West coast posse album.

Enter the Wu, which was the first Wu-tang Album also changed the game because it was and East Coast posse album. Only Built For Cuban Linx was the 4th installment of Wu-tang albums after Enter The Wu, Meth (Tical) and Old Dirty Bastard (Return of the 36 Chambers).
 
Lmao one cat says OB4CL "breathed life into Mafiaso Rap" another cat says Biggie created Mafiaso Rap.

U niggas need to make up your mind
 
skpjr78;6790528 said:
CoonKillaThird;6790513 said:
skpjr78;6790472 said:
5 Grand;6790443 said:
skpjr78;6790422 said:
In a landslide. OB4CL was goat but come on man. U cant be serious w/this shit

You do realize that "goat" means greatest of all time?

GOAT for the EAST COAST which wasnt saying much for that time period. OB4CL was the best non biggie album to come from the east. Lets be honest outside of biggie's first album and wu tangs first album there was nobody on the east coast was worth listening to until DMX dropped. And then to compare it to maybe the best rap album ever made is a joke. U cant be serious w/this shit

The single most ignorant statement I have ever come across on this site.

Truth hurts now take ur L and keep it moving

You have managed to create one of the dumbest statements known to man and somehow I take the L. Brilliant.
 
Stew;6794315 said:
The Lonious Monk;6794251 said:
Stew;6794098 said:
The Lonious Monk;6793780 said:
n.mcfly;6793469 said:
Man I haven't heard the chronic in over 14yrs but I'll grab that purple tape in a heart beat

This. As good as the Chronic is, you don't really even hear anybody talking about it like that anymore.

So people are talkin about OB4CL and not one of the most influential albums ever? Oh

Yeah, I hear people talk more about OB4CL than the Chronic.

And I think people are overrating how influential the Chronic was. It laid the Blueprint for West Coast Rap. That's big, but that's about all it did. I'd say OB4CL was more influential. You can name more big named artists and albums that borrowed from it than you can for the Chronic. I can't say OB4CL invented the whole drug/mafioso rap motif since Kool G Rap is really the one to thank for that, but OB4CL sure as hell breathed life into and made it something everyone from the East was trying to bite for a while.

So what u saying is OB4CL changed the game more than The Chronic did?

I don't see where the Chronic changed the game all that much. I agree it may have seemed like it changed the game since most West Coast rap that came out after it had a similar sound, but I think that was more because Dre or one of his proteges had a hand in the vast majority of West Coast rap at the time. So of course it would all sound similar. That said, the Bay Area's rap sounds nothing like the Chronic and never has, so even on the same coast the Chronic's influence is limited.

Now look at OB4CL. You still got albums where cats are trying to use scarface samples as the blueprint for their album or giving everyone on the album a different nickname. The album is the reason why all these cats run around calling themselves dons/mafiosos/gambinos etc... And the funny thing is, that's not even what the album was about. People just took something superficial from the album and ran with it.

Stew;6794379 said:
Lmao one cat says OB4CL "breathed life into Mafiaso Rap" another cat says Biggie created Mafiaso Rap.

U niggas need to make up your mind

Only a person who just started listening to rap when Biggie dropped would claim he created Mafiaso Rap. OB4CL as seen as the pinnacle of that subgenre but you can't even say Rae created it.

 
In The Death Row vs Wu Tang Thread Death Row was winning 40-38

But in this poll Only Built For Cuban Linx won 28-22
 
skpjr78;c-6790422 said:
In a landslide. OB4CL was goat but come on man. U cant be serious w/this shit

This clearly an East Coast bias poll!

Wikipedia

n 1994, "Nuthin' but a "G" Thang" and "Let Me Ride" were nominated at the 36th Grammy Awards, with the latter winning Best Rap Solo Performance for Dr. Dre.[28] That year, readers of Hip Hop Connection voted it the fourth best album of all time, leading the magazine to speculate, "In a few years' time, it could even be remembered as the best rap album of all time."[44]

The Chronic was included in Vibe magazine's list of the 100 Essential Albums of the 20th Century,[45] and the magazine later included it in their list of the Top 10 Rap Albums of All Time, dubbing it a "decade-defining opus".[46] The record was ranked eighth in Spin magazine's "90 Greatest Albums of the '90s",[47] and in 2005, it was ranked at number thirty-five in their list of the "100 Greatest Albums, 1985–2005".[48] Rolling Stone ranked The Chronic at number 138 on their list of the 500 Greatest Albums of All Time.[43] In 2005, MTV Networks listed The Chronic as the third greatest hip hop album in history.[49] The following year, Time magazine named it as one of "The All-Time 100 Albums".[29] In a retrospective issue, XXL magazine awarded The Chronic a perfect "XXL" rating.[50] The Source, who originally gave the album a rating of 4.5 out of 5 mics in 1993, would later include it in their list of the 100 Best Rap Albums; in 2008, the magazine's former editor Reginald Dennis remarked that he "would have given it a five" in retrospect—the magazine's editors had a strict rule forbidding five-mic ratings at the time—and that "no one could have predicted the seismic shift that this album would produce".[51] The Chronic is listed in the book 1001 Albums You Must Hear Before You Die.[52]

As of 2015, the album has sold 5.7 million copies in the United States,[3] and was certified Triple Platinum by RIAA on November 3, 1993.[53] It is Dr. Dre's second-bestselling album, as his follow-up album, 2001, was certified sextuple Platinum.[54] The album first appeared on music charts in 1993, peaking on the Billboard 200 at number three, and peaking on Top R&B/Hip-Hop Albums at number one.[55] The Chronic spent eight months in the Billboard Top 10.[56] The album's three singles became top ten Billboard singles.[57] "Nuthin' but a "G" Thang" peaked at number two on the Billboard Hot 100 and at number one on both the Hot Rap Singles and Hot R&B Singles charts.[57] "Fuck Wit Dre Day (And Everybody's Celebratin')" became a top ten single on four different charts, including the Hot R&B Singles (number 6) and the Hot 100 (number 8).[57]

The Chronic didn't chart on the UK Albums Chart until 2000, eight years after its original release, and peaked at number 43 in July 2004. It has sold 260,814 copies there.[58] The Chronic re-entered the charts in 2003, peaking on the Ireland Albums Top 75 at number 48, and on the UK Albums Top 75 in 2004 at number 43.[59]

The Chronic changed your life when it came out. I smoked my first blunt to it.

The IC is the only place where Wu Tang had more influence than Death Row and the OB4CL is a better album.

Next we gone have a debate that BigL was a bigger force in Hip Hop than E40.
 
optimistic;c-10152735 said:
Lefty_;c-10152326 said:
I like the well thought out titangraphs... but this is simple.

The Chronic changed hip hop forever. Period.

What was different about hip hop after the chronic?

Well Chronic changed the sound of most HipHop on the Radio, Def Jam snatched up Warren G off of the strength of his production abilities stemming from the Chronic, Ice Cube embraced and switched up his beat selection for Lethal Injection, Biggie used the Formula for his Debut and even more so on his Next Album, You can even hear the Influence in Scarface the Diary. Daz, Warren G, and who knows how many other Ghost producers got a foothold into the game and the sound for the whole 90's changed until from the chronic on along with a new level of Commercial appeal being found in Hip Hop...
 
Soloman_The_Wise;c-10152777 said:
optimistic;c-10152735 said:
Lefty_;c-10152326 said:
I like the well thought out titangraphs... but this is simple.

The Chronic changed hip hop forever. Period.

What was different about hip hop after the chronic?

Well Chronic changed the sound of most HipHop on the Radio, Def Jam snatched up Warren G off of the strength of his production abilities stemming from the Chronic, Ice Cube embraced and switched up his beat selection for Lethal Injection, Biggie used the Formula for his Debut and even more so on his Next Album, You can even hear the Influence in Scarface the Diary. Daz, Warren G, and who knows how many other Ghost producers got a foothold into the game and the sound for the whole 90's changed until from the chronic on along with a new level of Commercial appeal being found in Hip Hop...

I want you to pay close attention to what I'm about to type:

While The Chronic was a game changer, there are at least a dozen other albums that were also game changers.

Saying The Chronic is the greatest album of all time because it was a game changer is like saying The 89/90 Detroit Pistons are the greatest basketball team in the history of the NBA because they won back to back championships. Or saying Troy Aikman is the greatest quarterback of all time because he won 3 Superbowls. Its faulty logic and it just isn't true.

Again, there have been dozens of Hip Hop albums that were game changers
 

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