The Black Panthers And The Right To Bear Arms

[Jonas.dini]

Yo can u post the link to this article b?

I support gun control btw, in fact sometimes I wish I lived in one of those countries like Norway where there are like 2 guns per 1000 people

 

[Madbeats]

Interesting, I didn't know this.

 

[dan_the_man.com]

full article
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/09/the-secret-history-of-guns/8608/3/

 

[Jonas.dini]

full article
http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2011/09/the-secret-history-of-guns/8608/3/

Thanks b
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[janklow]

The founding fathers of the modern “gun rights” movement in America was…the Black Panthers ?? Yes, or so the Atlantic argues in an interesting piece on the twisted, tangled history of firearm ownership in America:

and yet, ironically, the average black voter is not electing politicians who will defend their gun rights.

I support gun control btw, in fact sometimes I wish I lived in one of those countries like Norway where there are like 2 guns per 1000 people

...get the fuck out

also, Norway has something like the 10th or 11th most heavily-armed civilians, with about 31 guns per 100 people, so there's that as well. if you believe those kinds of surveys, anyway.

 

[Jonas.dini]

and yet, ironically, the average black voter is not electing politicians who will defend their gun rights.

...get the fuck out

also, Norway has something like the 10th or 11th most heavily-armed civilians, with about 31 guns per 100 people, so there's that as well. if you believe those kinds of surveys, anyway.

Ha I just made that 2 per 1000 stat up

 

[Huruma]

I don't believe in gun 'rights'. I could theoretically be persuaded that lessening gun control is necessary because it prevents many people from being able to defend themselves (or even having the option of a usually convenient/painless, if not foolproof, method of suicide) but anyone's possessing something as dangerous as a gun is a community concern, since your owning a gun can negatively affect other people, it is their business.

 

[Plutarch]

I don't believe in gun 'rights'. I could theoretically be persuaded that lessening gun control is necessary because it prevents many people from being able to defend themselves (or even having the option of a usually convenient/painless, if not foolproof, method of suicide) but anyone's possessing something as dangerous as a gun is a community concern, since your owning a gun can negatively affect other people, it is their business.

And at the same time, I could go ahead and guess that most people who use guns irresponsibly and in harmful ways are those who don't have gun permits. So I doubt that taking away gun rights and enforcing gun control would have a significant effect on gun crime. Taking away gun rights and enforcing gun control would have a bigger impact on preventing responsible people from owning guns to defend themselves and their families from "criminals". It's these "criminals" who illegally own and use guns that will continue to illegally own and use guns regardless. They probably wouldnt even be able to get a gun permit if they tried due to the qualifications for getting. I think that it would be much more progressive, for one example, to take New York's initiative and have a very harsh sentences for the illegal possession of guns. Though some might argue that that would be unconstitutional. But desperate times call for "martial law".

 

[janklow]

Ha I just made that 2 per 1000 stat up

that's what you get for loving Norway so much

...but anyone's possessing something as dangerous as a gun is a community concern, since your owning a gun can negatively affect other people, it is their business.

you can own many things that can "negatively affect other people," so at what point do we draw the line

 

[CashMeOutKing]

Great Post... Wild Wild West... Support my Peoples to the MAX... HARD KNOCK LIFE

 

[rapbizla]

And at the same time, I could go ahead and guess that most people who use guns irresponsibly and in harmful ways are those who don't have gun permits. So I doubt that taking away gun rights and enforcing gun control would have a significant effect on gun crime. Taking away gun rights and enforcing gun control would have a bigger impact on preventing responsible people from owning guns to defend themselves and their families from "criminals". It's these "criminals" who illegally own and use guns that will continue to illegally own and use guns regardless. They probably wouldnt even be able to get a gun permit if they tried due to the qualifications for getting. I think that it would be much more progressive, for one example, to take New York's initiative and have a very harsh sentences for the illegal possession of guns. Though some might argue that that would be unconstitutional. But desperate times call for "martial law".

I agree! Taking away the right to bear arms from the responsible people only leaves them unable to defend themselves. It doesn't take away the crime!

 

[bornnraisedoffCMR]

Being able to truly defend your self is true freedom. The fact that blacks are armed is the main reason we arent slaved or in internment camps now. Protect yourself.