The Biggest Myth in HipHop is that JaRule's career ended because of 50Cent.

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good points h rap but overall i think it was fickle fans. all ja's fans are now 50's IMO.

50 has way of getting under people's skin he pretty much manipulated everyone with that beef .

plus my thing with ja is that he was too much on that trying to be pac.
 
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I am going to slightly disagree as 50 was feeding information to the Feds and helping in the building of a case against Murder Inc with songs like Ghetto Quaran and Filing of orders of restraint on Top of The Media Machine that Interscope pushes those factors defintely pushed towards Ja's Fall add to that how Ja reacted to 50 a little bit to late and not seriously enough, BUt as I siad those are small factors in comparison to the larger points you laid out...
 
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KingJamal;2734977 said:
Fickle fans ruined his career

what he said. I dont see how the joint wit him and Wayne didnt catch on. [video=youtube;18chhia2R1Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18chhia2R1Y[/video]
 
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KingJamal;2735152 said:
His acting is better than 50s

that movie he did wit ving rhames was decent

Yea 50 acting is suspect..... rule just made enemies wit the wrong nigga. That G-unit machine from 03 - 05 was unstoppable. They had shit on smash.
 
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50s fans are gonna be on his dick regardless. Even when it came out he filed a restraining order against Ja and Murder Inc LOL
 
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Turfaholic;2735177 said:
what he said. I dont see how the joint wit him and Wayne didnt catch on. [video=youtube;18chhia2R1Y]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18chhia2R1Y[/video]

Man that shit was trash....State of New york sent both dem niggas to jail for this track
 
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kacee139;2735195 said:
Man that shit was trash....State of New york sent both dem niggas to jail for this track

that was a funny a joke. But that was Wayne in his prime. A hot beat. Catchy. Shit shoulda blew.
 
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5-0 was a fukin snitch . he snitch on black child wen he got stabb in studio . yall forgot how murder inc ran up on gunit niggaz and got into a fight wit em . ja can styl make hits, all he needs that one hit to get the attention bac on him . i styl fuk wit ja no homo his music got me some pussy . i be bumpin put it on me and shyt haha FREE JARULE ITS MURDDAAAAAAAA fuk gayunit
 
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sionb55;2735161 said:
You've got to be kidding me bro..... Dude released album after album & not one of them shits was selling... Blood In My Eye flopped, The Last Temptation flopped (by Ja standards atleast, he was selling 3 & 4x plat domestically, internationally Ja was a star & sold just as well overseas). When 50 was dissing him its noticeable that the sales of his future records began to dip significantly. Ja couldnt even get proper radio play in NY - his HOME TURF SMMFH. If 50 could sell 20 million during their feud theres no reason why Ja's sales shouldnt have increased as well. The feds raiding murder inc was one thing but if anything it should have pushed their sales further. 50 Cent destroyed Ja Rule's career, Ja will NEVER be able to sell the way he once did.

Hrap u my nigga & all but *in pac voice* "u living fantasies my nigga i reject yo deposit when rick ross punk ass gonna come out of the closet" LOLOL.

nah my nigga blood in my eye was not suppose to b an album . it was suppose to b a mixtape but i tink def jam was forcin him to put an album out so he took blood in my eye as a album
 
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beerisgood4ya;2735111 said:
ill give you the new york, new york track which was a big hit, but other than that ja really lost his nitch to really keep making them big hits he was making in prior years consistently....all beef aside, if ja would have kept on producing chart topping singles and albums, he would have never fell off no matter how much 50, em, dmx or who ever else he had beef with at the time. At the end of the day, if your music is still selling, then you in fact are winning in the game, you are as good as what chart topping music you can produce. 50 has even admitted that he would not have became so big if ja would have just ignored him because he knew he was a nobody, plus ja is not a battle rapper which also worked against him, clap back was smh. If ja was smart, he wouldnt have gave 50 the time of day and pulled a jay move and ignored him, even though it would be a pussy move to keep ignoring 50 at the time because 50 was killing the mixtape game, 50 was still a nobody in the grand scheme of things. Ja just gave him a platform, which turned out to be a dumb move on his part.

Its hard to make hits when you are at war with the biggest rapper in the world and your label is under investigation, Gotti looking at 30 years from the Feds... I mean who can pen a hit under those circumstances?

In all honesty I believe Emenim did him more harm than 50Cent did because because Emenim was the most popular rapper in the world and at the peak of his career after dropping "The Emenim Show" "8 Mile" between 2002 & 2004 so when he dissed Ja-Rule and had all of Shady records dissing Ja-Rule it was GAME OVER.
He should have never involved Em'
 
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50's dry snitching. Irv's pending case. The machine that pushed the most popular rapper PERIOD and his cohorts rapping against him as well. Fickle ass fans.

These factors is what got JaRule's career on the deathbed.
 
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hlf;2735209 said:
And this nigga call me a Eminem stan. FOH son
Why call me a 'nigga"??

Ja Rule turned himself in today, please attempt to be mature enough to see the discussion is about his career first and foremost, Emenim is just a side dish.

Fazeem Blackall;2735167 said:
I am going to slightly disagree as 50 was feeding information to the Feds and helping in the building of a case against Murder Inc with songs like Ghetto Quaran and Filing of orders of restraint on Top of The Media Machine that Interscope pushes those factors defintely pushed towards Ja's Fall add to that how Ja reacted to 50 a little bit to late and not seriously enough, BUt as I siad those are small factors in comparison to the larger points you laid out...

Man, I should have built with you before I made this thread, I do remember hearing 50Cent say on 106th & Park that Murder Inc. was funded by drug-dealers and being shocked that he dry-snitched on National T.V. so easily.

The incident were he told the Feds "listen to my lyrics" slipped my mind, thats some grimey business to add to stealing a mans style/swag after bambozling the public into believing you were the remedy to the sing-songy-pop disease that Hiphop had caught.
 
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Wats funny is 50 cent was the main one who said that T.I. was a snitch

Wat a fuckin hypocrite
 
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Disciplined InSight;2735345 said:
50's dry snitching. Irv's pending case. The machine that pushed the most popular rapper PERIOD and his cohorts rapping against him as well. Fickle ass fans.

These factors is what got JaRule's career on the deathbed.

How was 50 dry snitching?
 
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H-Rap 180;2735349 said:
Why call me a 'nigga"??

Ja Rule turned himself in today, please attempt to be mature enough to see the discussion is about his career first and foremost, Emenim is just a side dish.

Man, I should have built with you before I made this thread, I do remember hearing 50Cent say on 106th & Park that Murder Inc. was funded by drug-dealers and being shocked that he dry-snitched on National T.V. so easily.

The incident were he told the Feds "listen to my lyrics" slipped my mind, thats some grimey business to add to stealing a mans style/swag after bambozling the public into believing you were the remedy to the sing-songy-pop disease that Hiphop had caught.

It's crazy to even think he said that on national TV,....................it's that old crab in a barrel jealously mentality. But karma is a mother, all those beef ish 50 did WILL come back on him eventually.
 
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R.Greezy;2735216 said:
5-0 was a fukin snitch . he snitch on black child wen he got stabb in studio .

Yeah, as much as 5-0 claims that he'll stab, shoot, and kill folks, dude did nothing when Black Child stabbed him and neither did he when he was shot.

It's not a good look when someone goes to jail for stabbing you and a restraining order is filed, even if 5-0 didn't request it.

I don't think 50 is solely responsible for Ja's demise. Ja made one too many pop songs and when the streets stop listening, the suburbs will get hip and soon follow suit.
 
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H-Rap 180;2735280 said:
Its hard to make hits when you are at war with the biggest rapper in the world and your label is under investigation, Gotti looking at 30 years from the Feds... I mean who can pen a hit under those circumstances?

In all honesty I believe Emenim did him more harm than 50Cent did because because Emenim was the most popular rapper in the world and at the peak of his career after dropping "The Emenim Show" "8 Mile" between 2002 & 2004 so when he dissed Ja-Rule and had all of Shady records dissing Ja-Rule it was GAME OVER.

He should have never involved Em'

to answer the bolded.....ja tried to emulate pac so much, that it may have caused more harm to his career and music making more than any other element. Thats like lebron trying to say, " you want to see jordan come back, well its here nigga, im right here", but then on the flip side lebron cant back all that shit up he was yapping when it comes to being under pressure and the spot lights on him to in fact emulate jordan in the forth quarter and he cant produce. Ja strength was his hit making, not his battling, he should have stayed in his lane and just left the beef alone. Ja wanting to be the second coming of pac made him look like a clown to most folk, also going at busta at the time didnt help his cause because busta is known for being a cool dude. Ja was actually beefing with 50, em, busta, dmx all at one time, ja was simply feeling himself a little too much, he actually thought he was pac, but the thing is pac was still productive even when the odds was against him to succeed, he still was making hit after hit tracks and going platinum with his albums, he used all that negative energy and turned it positive for his career. I just dont think ja was smart enuff to handle the pressure that he was putting himself into, and like you said, ja bringing eminem daughter into the battle was also a dumb move on his part, because that just gave the opposing team a more legitimate reason to out ja all together.
 
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c.b.b.;2735408 said:
Yeah, as much as 5-0 claims that he'll stab, shoot, and kill folks, dude did nothing when Black Child stabbed him and neither did he when he was shot.

It's not a good look when someone goes to jail for stabbing you and a restraining order is filed, even if 5-0 didn't request it.

I don't think 50 is solely responsible for Ja's demise. Ja made one too many pop songs and when the streets stop listening, the suburbs will get hip and soon follow suit.

But he did request it

Nigga talks all that superman shit. The Label tried to make him superman saying he got shot 9 times lol when the police report said he got shot like 4 times.
 
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