The 70 years are almost up! Teachings on the deep things of God! The day of the LORD is near!

[Arya Tsaddiq]

I goated you for following scripture and correlating world events with prophecy...

But I have one issue. I just want to say this and I dont want it to throw the thread of topic. You can address it with one response, or choose not to respond at all. It doesn't matter to me. I just want you to think about this.

In other threads, you mentioned that the identity of the tribes of Israel were not important, and Christ is all that we should be concerned about. And I agree to an extent. But you just used Judah returning to Israel as proof of the sign of times. But to be able to point to that, you have to know who Israel is according to prophecy and scripture to know when it was/will be fulfilled....

May the Most High bless you for your zealous spirit and the work you are putting in to sow good seeds.

 

[Aristo_V300]

I goated you for following scripture and correlating world events with prophecy...

But I have one issue. I just want to say this and I dont want it to throw the thread of topic. You can address it with one response, or choose not to respond at all. It doesn't matter to me. I just want you to think about this.

In other threads, you mentioned that the identity of the tribes of Israel were not important, and Christ is all that we should be concerned about. And I agree to an extent. But you just used Judah returning to Israel as proof of the sign of times. But to be able to point to that, you have to know who Israel is according to prophecy and scripture to know when it was/will be fulfilled....

May the Most High bless you for your zealous spirit and the work you are putting in to sow good seeds.

I goated you for readin' all that...

 

[zombie]

I goated you for following scripture and correlating world events with prophecy...

But I have one issue. I just want to say this and I dont want it to throw the thread of topic. You can address it with one response, or choose not to respond at all. It doesn't matter to me. I just want you to think about this.

In other threads, you mentioned that the identity of the tribes of Israel were not important, and Christ is all that we should be concerned about. And I agree to an extent. But you just used Judah returning to Israel as proof of the sign of times. But to be able to point to that, you have to know who Israel is according to prophecy and scripture to know when it was/will be fulfilled....

May the Most High bless you for your zealous spirit and the work you are putting in to sow good seeds.

The people of Israel are the spiritual descendants of the scattered people of Judea. what make you an Israelite is first the belief in the god of Abraham and the following of the law given to moses and secondly living in a nation state that is run by that law.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

I goated you for following scripture and correlating world events with prophecy...

But I have one issue. I just want to say this and I dont want it to throw the thread of topic. You can address it with one response, or choose not to respond at all. It doesn't matter to me. I just want you to think about this.

In other threads, you mentioned that the identity of the tribes of Israel were not important, and Christ is all that we should be concerned about. And I agree to an extent. But you just used Judah returning to Israel as proof of the sign of times. But to be able to point to that, you have to know who Israel is according to prophecy and scripture to know when it was/will be fulfilled....

May the Most High bless you for your zealous spirit and the work you are putting in to sow good seeds.

The most important aspect in regards to the salvation of our souls is to be IN Christ. The Israel of God are all those who have trusted Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. It's not by physical descent that we are of the seed of Abraham, but it's by being born again of a spiritual birth through faith that we are made of the seed of Abraham, who is the Father of faith.

"26For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." Galatians 3:26-29

So like the scriptures teach I do belong to the seed of Abraham, not because I believe that I am a physical descendant, but because I am a spiritual descendant.

Now if you believe that you are a physical descendant of Abraham, praise God. But that will profit you nothing if you are not in Christ. The same promises that God gave to Abraham are only applicable to all those who accept the Messiah as Lord and Savior by faith. Many of the physical descendants of Abraham have been cut off and cast away as a withered branch because they refused the vine, who is Jesus Christ.

But the last days will see the whole house of Israel united as they all accept the Lord Jesus as Messiah. God has placed it on my heart to go to Zion. I must go to Israel because that is my home! It is where my King will return and I must meet Him in the air there. Thus I believe that all who have a desire to go to Israel in the last days will be all those who are of the Israel of God. Amen.

 

[janklow]

America became the sole super power when WW2 ended-

you should PROBABLY just stop right there, because there were two superpowers when WW2 ended

 

[zombie]

@DoUwant2go2Heaven?

Where do I even start with this post??? because I know your heart is in the right place I am going to try to help you understand why several things in your post is faulty.

To begin with the united states of America did not become the worlds sole superpower after the defeat of japan. A superpower is a state that has the power to effect political events on a global scale. during and after ww2 there were really 2 superpowers Russia and America. the use of the atomic bomb was a great show of power but it did not make the usa the sole superpower.

this fact alone should blow the whole 70 years thing out the water but lets continue,

You took jeremiah 25 out of context. look at the very start of jeremiah 25:1-2 and see who he is taking too

" the word came to jeremiah concerning all the people of Judah in the fourth year of jehoiakim son of Josiah king of Judah, which was the first year of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon. So jeremiah the prophet said to all the people of Judah and to all those living in Jerusalem"

All of jeremiah 25 is about that generation and only that generation not some far off generation this is clear because the bible tells you who jeremiah is addressing the same goes for jeremiah 29. There is no sound reason for you to apply double prophecy and actually under you method you can apply this same prophecy 3 times. 70 b.c by Nebuchadnezzar, 587 b.c by rome and your believed future date.

As for the blood moons you want to link them to the end times ok but that still does not link America to mystery Babylon. the verses you quoted from isa describe the destruction of Babylon but they don't identify where Babylon is so you cannot use them as proof that the usa is Babylon.

Later on Isaiah gives a description of where Babylon is and with the details he gives it cannot be misconstrued to be America.

 

[Arya Tsaddiq]

I goated you for following scripture and correlating world events with prophecy...

But I have one issue. I just want to say this and I dont want it to throw the thread of topic. You can address it with one response, or choose not to respond at all. It doesn't matter to me. I just want you to think about this.

In other threads, you mentioned that the identity of the tribes of Israel were not important, and Christ is all that we should be concerned about. And I agree to an extent. But you just used Judah returning to Israel as proof of the sign of times. But to be able to point to that, you have to know who Israel is according to prophecy and scripture to know when it was/will be fulfilled....

May the Most High bless you for your zealous spirit and the work you are putting in to sow good seeds.

The most important aspect in regards to the salvation of our souls is to be IN Christ. The Israel of God are all those who have trusted Jesus Christ as their Lord and Savior. It's not by physical descent that we are of the seed of Abraham, but it's by being born again of a spiritual birth through faith that we are made of the seed of Abraham, who is the Father of faith.

"26For ye are all the children of God by faith in Christ Jesus. 27For as many of you as have been baptized into Christ have put on Christ. 28There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus. 29And if ye be Christ's, then are ye Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise." Galatians 3:26-29

So like the scriptures teach I do belong to the seed of Abraham, not because I believe that I am a physical descendant, but because I am a spiritual descendant.

Now if you believe that you are a physical descendant of Abraham, praise God. But that will profit you nothing if you are not in Christ. The same promises that God gave to Abraham are only applicable to all those who accept the Messiah as Lord and Savior by faith. Many of the physical descendants of Abraham have been cut off and cast away as a withered branch because they refused the vine, who is Jesus Christ.

But the last days will see the whole house of Israel united as they all accept the Lord Jesus as Messiah. God has placed it on my heart to go to Zion. I must go to Israel because that is my home! It is where my King will return and I must meet Him in the air there. Thus I believe that all who have a desire to go to Israel in the last days will be all those who are of the Israel of God. Amen.

I cant even come against what you said. I do believe that we are the physical descendants of Abraham and a tribe of Judah, but without Christ, doesn't matter.

We DEFINATLEY need to leave though. I agree there.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

America became the sole super power when WW2 ended-

you should PROBABLY just stop right there, because there were two superpowers when WW2 ended

Wrong. Money makes the world go round.

"In the period following the Bretton Woods Conference of 1944, exchange rates around the world were pegged against the United States dollar, which could be exchanged for a fixed amount of gold. This reinforced the dominance of the US dollar as a global currency."

SINCE 1944 the dollar has been the world currency! And the quote actually states that it "reinforced the dominace" of the greenback. So it's been that way even before WW2. But we have to put our stake down somewhere and it's being put down here.

No one was checking for the USSR Ruble......Get real buddy.

America lead the world after WW2 ended. The soviets were mad at that fact, well they've been mad since America stole Alaska from them, but still the Yankees have dominated the global scene since WW2 ended.

If the USSR was a superpower like America why are they no longer around?

Let's deal with facts and not opinions.

The dollar has been the ruler of the world, which happens to be the currency of the United States of America.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

@DoUwant2go2Heaven?

Where do I even start with this post??? because I know your heart is in the right place I am going to try to help you understand why several things in your post is faulty.

To begin with the united states of America did not become the worlds sole superpower after the defeat of japan. A superpower is a state that has the power to effect political events on a global scale. during and after ww2 there were really 2 superpowers Russia and America. the use of the atomic bomb was a great show of power but it did not make the usa the sole superpower.

this fact alone should blow the whole 70 years thing out the water but lets continue,

You took jeremiah 25 out of context. look at the very start of jeremiah 25:1-2 and see who he is taking too

" the word came to jeremiah concerning all the people of Judah in the fourth year of jehoiakim son of Josiah king of Judah, which was the first year of Nebuchadnezzar king of Babylon. So jeremiah the prophet said to all the people of Judah and to all those living in Jerusalem"

All of jeremiah 25 is about that generation and only that generation not some far off generation this is clear because the bible tells you who jeremiah is addressing the same goes for jeremiah 29. There is no sound reason for you to apply double prophecy and actually under you method you can apply this same prophecy 3 times. 70 b.c by Nebuchadnezzar, 587 b.c by rome and your believed future date.

As for the blood moons you want to link them to the end times ok but that still does not link America to mystery Babylon. the verses you quoted from isa describe the destruction of Babylon but they don't identify where Babylon is so you cannot use them as proof that the usa is Babylon.

Later on Isaiah gives a description of where Babylon is and with the details he gives it cannot be misconstrued to be America.

1. Here is my reply to Janklow just in case you missed it. In regards to why and how America was the lone superpower when WW2 ended.

"Wrong. Money makes the world go round.

"In the period following the Bretton Woods Conference of 1944, exchange rates around the world were pegged against the United States dollar, which could be exchanged for a fixed amount of gold. This reinforced the dominance of the US dollar as a global currency."

SINCE 1944 the dollar has been the world currency! And the quote actually states that it "reinforced the dominace" of the greenback. So it's been that way even before WW2. But we have to put our stake down somewhere and it's being put down here.

No one was checking for the USSR Ruble......Get real buddy.

America lead the world after WW2 ended. The soviets were mad at that fact, well they've been mad since America stole Alaska from them, but still the Yankees have dominated the global scene since WW2 ended.

If the USSR was a superpower like America why are they no longer around?

Let's deal with facts and not opinions.

The dollar has been the ruler of the world, which happens to be the currency of the United States of America."

2. Double fulfillment of prophecy. You need to study this truth. Porphecy has a near and a far fulfillment. God knows the end from the beginning and all points in between. That is why you need the Holy Spirit to teach you. Also, Did I not REPEATEDLY emphasize Ecclesiastes 1:9-10?



"History merely repeats itself. It has all been done before. Nothing under the sun is truly new. 10Sometimes people say, “Here is something new!” But actually it is old; nothing is ever truly new."

These are basic principles my friend. The near fulfillment was fulfilled during the time of Nebuchadnezzar and his sons. The far fulfillment will be accomplished when Babylon the Great is destroyed! You see this is meat my friend. We are dealing with the deep things of God. This isn't fluff! You have to dig for the hidden treasures in the eternal word of God.

That is why Paul can tell us that the day of the LORD will not take the children of light by surprise! We are not in darkness because the children of light study to show themselves approved! They watch, they pray. And the word of God is confirmed when He states this:

"Surely the Sovereign LORD does nothing without revealing his plan to his servants the prophets." Amos 3:7

God is revealing His plan in these last days because the book has been unsealed. It is the time of the end and all things will shortly be fulfilled. You can choose to believe or not. It makes no mind to me. I'm just a messenger doing the will of God. Those who have ears to hear, will hear. Those who don't, won't. Amen.

 

[zombie]

America became the sole super power when WW2 ended-

you should PROBABLY just stop right there, because there were two superpowers when WW2 ended

Wrong. Money makes the world go round.

"In the period following the Bretton Woods Conference of 1944, exchange rates around the world were pegged against the United States dollar, which could be exchanged for a fixed amount of gold. This reinforced the dominance of the US dollar as a global currency."

SINCE 1944 the dollar has been the world currency! And the quote actually states that it "reinforced the dominace" of the greenback. So it's been that way even before WW2. But we have to put our stake down somewhere and it's being put down here.

No one was checking for the USSR Ruble......Get real buddy.

America lead the world after WW2 ended. The soviets were mad at that fact, well they've been mad since America stole Alaska from them, but still the Yankees have dominated the global scene since WW2 ended.

If the USSR was a superpower like America why are they no longer around?

Let's deal with facts and not opinions.

The dollar has been the ruler of the world, which happens to be the currency of the United States of America.

Do you understand that the ussr was a communist state? do you know what that means? the questions you are asking would indicate that you don't. The dollar was dominate in the west because the western powers were capitalistic. After the war russia never became part of the imf, after the war the world was split in two and america only lead the west and america did not steal alaska russia sold it http://history.state.gov/milestones/1866-1898/alaska-purchase America only dominated THE WEST but the rest of the world did not revolve around america the term iron curtain, described the lock the ussr had over large sections of the world.

Like i keep telling you you need to educated yourself on more than just the bible you are making yourself look very uneducated.

ECCLESIASTES 7:12 " For the protection of wisdom is like the protection of money, and the advantage of knowledge is that wisdom preserves the life of him who has it."

 

[zombie]

The dollar has not been the ruler of the world since 1945 america did not become the sole superpower till the 1990's even 12 years olds know that, you are factually wrong and if you can be so clearly wrong on well know historical facts then what confidence should anyone have in your ability to understand prophecy.

You talk like you are giving some deep understanding but in reality you don't know what you are talking about the verses you use to make mystery babylon america would only fool some one who does not read for example you used

isaiah 13: 1-14 to prove your point but you did not put the whole of isa 13 to use, only the sections that you think will prove your point. Now here is isaiah 13: 15-22



15 Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword.

16 Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.

17 Behold, I will stir up the Medes against them, which shall not regard silver; and as for gold, they shall not delight in it.

18 Their bows also shall dash the young men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eyes shall not spare children.

19 And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.

20 It shall never be inhabited, neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation: neither shall the Arabian pitch tent there; neither shall the shepherds make their fold there.

21 But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there.

22 And the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their desolate houses, and dragons in their pleasant palaces: and her time is near to come, and her days shall not be prolonged.

In verse 19 isaiah calls babylon "the beauty of the chaldees' excellency" which indicates that the babylon being talked about must have been or is part of the empire of the chaldees. The USA was never part of that empire but large parts of arabia were and the bible refers to edom as being the daugher of babylon and edom is identified as being on the arabian penninsula

Psalms 137: 7-8

7 Remember, O LORD, the children of Edom in the day of Jerusalem; who said, Rase it, rase it, even to the foundation thereof.

8 O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us.

In verse 20 isaiah says " neither shall the arabian pitch tent there" america does not have a tradition of Arabs pitching tents. but the arabian peninsula does.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

America became the sole super power when WW2 ended-

you should PROBABLY just stop right there, because there were two superpowers when WW2 ended

Wrong. Money makes the world go round.

"In the period following the Bretton Woods Conference of 1944, exchange rates around the world were pegged against the United States dollar, which could be exchanged for a fixed amount of gold. This reinforced the dominance of the US dollar as a global currency."

SINCE 1944 the dollar has been the world currency! And the quote actually states that it "reinforced the dominace" of the greenback. So it's been that way even before WW2. But we have to put our stake down somewhere and it's being put down here.

No one was checking for the USSR Ruble......Get real buddy.

America lead the world after WW2 ended. The soviets were mad at that fact, well they've been mad since America stole Alaska from them, but still the Yankees have dominated the global scene since WW2 ended.

If the USSR was a superpower like America why are they no longer around?

Let's deal with facts and not opinions.

The dollar has been the ruler of the world, which happens to be the currency of the United States of America.

Do you understand that the ussr was a communist state? do you know what that means? the questions you are asking would indicate that you don't. The dollar was dominate in the west because the western powers were capitalistic. After the war russia never became part of the imf, after the war the world was split in two and america only lead the west and america did not steal alaska russia sold it http://history.state.gov/milestones/1866-1898/alaska-purchase America only dominated THE WEST but the rest of the world did not revolve around america the term iron curtain, described the lock the ussr had over large sections of the world.

Like i keep telling you you need to educated yourself on more than just the bible you are making yourself look very uneducated.

ECCLESIASTES 7:12 " For the protection of wisdom is like the protection of money, and the advantage of knowledge is that wisdom preserves the life of him who has it."

Hyperbole! Do you understand it? Of course I know how America got Alaska. I was just using hyperbole because America pretty much got it for pennies considering the value that Alaska truly is. Sorry for not having my serious hat on at all times. Good grief.

And no matter which way you try to slice it, America is and has been the only super power on planet earth since the end of WW2. Their dealings with Israel solidify that fact first and foremost. With the economic component bolstering that fact because it lines up exactly with what the prophecy teaches! Stop being deceived. Stop trying to rationalize the facts. And stop being so stubborn.

And yes I don't speak the wisdom of this world which comes to nothing, but the wisdom that only comes from God which will preserve my life when Babylon the Great falls. Amen.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

The dollar has not been the ruler of the world since 1945 america did not become the sole superpower till the 1990's even 12 years olds know that, you are factually wrong and if you can be so clearly wrong on well know historical facts then what confidence should anyone have in your ability to understand prophecy.

You talk like you are giving some deep understanding but in reality you don't know what you are talking about the verses you use to make mystery babylon america would only fool some one who does not read for example you used

isaiah 13: 1-14 to prove your point but you did not put the whole of isa 13 to use, only the sections that you think will prove your point. Now here is isaiah 13: 15-22



15 Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword.

16 Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.

17 Behold, I will stir up the Medes against them, which shall not regard silver; and as for gold, they shall not delight in it.

18 Their bows also shall dash the young men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eyes shall not spare children.

19 And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.

20 It shall never be inhabited, neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation: neither shall the Arabian pitch tent there; neither shall the shepherds make their fold there.

21 But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there.

22 And the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their desolate houses, and dragons in their pleasant palaces: and her time is near to come, and her days shall not be prolonged.

In verse 19 isaiah calls babylon "the beauty of the chaldees' excellency" which indicates that the babylon being talked about must have been or is part of the empire of the chaldees. The USA was never part of that empire but large parts of arabia were and the bible refers to edom as being the daugher of babylon and edom is identified as being on the arabian penninsula

Psalms 137: 7-8

7 Remember, O LORD, the children of Edom in the day of Jerusalem; who said, Rase it, rase it, even to the foundation thereof.

8 O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us.

In verse 20 isaiah says " neither shall the arabian pitch tent there" america does not have a tradition of Arabs pitching tents. but the arabian peninsula does.

It's like I am talking to a brick wall. No matter how many TIMES I REPEAT myself you just don't get it!

DOUBLE FULFILLMENT OF PROPHECY! I mean I really don't know how else to put it. So until you show me some research in regards to your knowledge of double fulfillment of prophecy, meaning near and far fulfillment, I refuse to continue to talk to a brick wall.

Your arguments are pointless because you don't see the bigger picture. You're so narrow minded that you can't see the revelation. The depth, knowledge, and understanding of the word of God is infinite. You need to ask the Holy Spirit to broaden your perception, because your still in the kiddie pool my friend.

I'm deep sea scuba diving over here, searching for the hidden treasures that are sunken in the word of God. You need to get out of the boat my friend. Ask the LORD to help you because your vision is obscured by factors that are hindering your spiritual perception into the deep things of God.

Amen.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

It may fall on deaf ears, but if you want understanding in regards to Isaiah 13. Here is just one of MANY resources that you can reference if you humble yourself. You are in my prayers.
http://wakeupbabylon.blogspot.com/2012/05/isaiah-13.html?q=babylon+won%27t+know

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

Everything you are talking about is from an earthly perspective Zombie. We are dealing with GOD! My views are heavenly based because that is where my citizenship belongs. You can not understand the things of God or the movements of God if you keep on using worldly wisdom.

The basic principle for why America was and still is the only super power on planet earth since the end of WW2 is Genesis 12:3

"I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you."

This is christian discipleship 101. I always get ahead of myself expecting others to understand foundational truths, but sadly I am mistaken quite often.

God set America up to be the leader of the free world because they were the 1st nation to back them and strongest ally of Israel since it's recreation in 1948. Thus, God has blessed America more than any other nation since the time of ancient Israel!

The reason why America is the de facto hammer of the world is because God has raised this nation to be that hammer because of the promises given to Abraham thousands of years ago. God will always fulfill His promises and He has done that by blessing America to rise above all other nations, including the USSR.

I mean to dispute this fact is to call God a liar! And God forbid that i should ever slander my King with such false accusations! Are you really ready to say that God is lying?

 

[zombie]

America became the sole super power when WW2 ended-

you should PROBABLY just stop right there, because there were two superpowers when WW2 ended

Wrong. Money makes the world go round.

"In the period following the Bretton Woods Conference of 1944, exchange rates around the world were pegged against the United States dollar, which could be exchanged for a fixed amount of gold. This reinforced the dominance of the US dollar as a global currency."

SINCE 1944 the dollar has been the world currency! And the quote actually states that it "reinforced the dominace" of the greenback. So it's been that way even before WW2. But we have to put our stake down somewhere and it's being put down here.

No one was checking for the USSR Ruble......Get real buddy.

America lead the world after WW2 ended. The soviets were mad at that fact, well they've been mad since America stole Alaska from them, but still the Yankees have dominated the global scene since WW2 ended.

If the USSR was a superpower like America why are they no longer around?

Let's deal with facts and not opinions.

The dollar has been the ruler of the world, which happens to be the currency of the United States of America.

Do you understand that the ussr was a communist state? do you know what that means? the questions you are asking would indicate that you don't. The dollar was dominate in the west because the western powers were capitalistic. After the war russia never became part of the imf, after the war the world was split in two and america only lead the west and america did not steal alaska russia sold it http://history.state.gov/milestones/1866-1898/alaska-purchase America only dominated THE WEST but the rest of the world did not revolve around america the term iron curtain, described the lock the ussr had over large sections of the world.

Like i keep telling you you need to educated yourself on more than just the bible you are making yourself look very uneducated.

ECCLESIASTES 7:12 " For the protection of wisdom is like the protection of money, and the advantage of knowledge is that wisdom preserves the life of him who has it."

Hyperbole! Do you understand it? Of course I know how America got Alaska. I was just using hyperbole because America pretty much got it for pennies considering the value that Alaska truly is. Sorry for not having my serious hat on at all times. Good grief.

And no matter which way you try to slice it, America is and has been the only super power on planet earth since the end of WW2. Their dealings with Israel solidify that fact first and foremost. With the economic component bolstering that fact because it lines up exactly with what the prophecy teaches! Stop being deceived. Stop trying to rationalize the facts. And stop being so stubborn.

And yes I don't speak the wisdom of this world which comes to nothing, but the wisdom that only comes from God which will preserve my life when Babylon the Great falls. Amen.

America got alaska for the low because russia did not know the value of what they had, when it was sold russia did not use it for much. and look at the size of russia, at the time alaska was not worth the trouble. what you asking to do with the bolded is to stop thinking, stop using wisdom sorry cannot do that because

1 Corinthians 2:6-16

Yet among the mature we do impart wisdom, although it is not a wisdom of this age or of the rulers of this age, who are doomed to pass away. But we impart a secret and hidden wisdom of God, which God decreed before the ages for our glory. None of the rulers of this age understood this, for if they had, they would not have crucified the Lord of glory. But, as it is written, “What no eye has seen, nor ear heard, nor the heart of man imagined, what God has prepared for those who love him”— these things God has revealed to us through the Spirit. For the Spirit searches everything, even the depths of God.

 

[zombie]

The dollar has not been the ruler of the world since 1945 america did not become the sole superpower till the 1990's even 12 years olds know that, you are factually wrong and if you can be so clearly wrong on well know historical facts then what confidence should anyone have in your ability to understand prophecy.

You talk like you are giving some deep understanding but in reality you don't know what you are talking about the verses you use to make mystery babylon america would only fool some one who does not read for example you used

isaiah 13: 1-14 to prove your point but you did not put the whole of isa 13 to use, only the sections that you think will prove your point. Now here is isaiah 13: 15-22



15 Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword.

16 Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.

17 Behold, I will stir up the Medes against them, which shall not regard silver; and as for gold, they shall not delight in it.

18 Their bows also shall dash the young men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eyes shall not spare children.

19 And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.

20 It shall never be inhabited, neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation: neither shall the Arabian pitch tent there; neither shall the shepherds make their fold there.

21 But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there.

22 And the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their desolate houses, and dragons in their pleasant palaces: and her time is near to come, and her days shall not be prolonged.

In verse 19 isaiah calls babylon "the beauty of the chaldees' excellency" which indicates that the babylon being talked about must have been or is part of the empire of the chaldees. The USA was never part of that empire but large parts of arabia were and the bible refers to edom as being the daugher of babylon and edom is identified as being on the arabian penninsula

Psalms 137: 7-8

7 Remember, O LORD, the children of Edom in the day of Jerusalem; who said, Rase it, rase it, even to the foundation thereof.

8 O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us.

In verse 20 isaiah says " neither shall the arabian pitch tent there" america does not have a tradition of Arabs pitching tents. but the arabian peninsula does.

It's like I am talking to a brick wall. No matter how many TIMES I REPEAT myself you just don't get it!

DOUBLE FULFILLMENT OF PROPHECY! I mean I really don't know how else to put it. So until you show me some research in regards to your knowledge of double fulfillment of prophecy, meaning near and far fulfillment, I refuse to continue to talk to a brick wall.

Your arguments are pointless because you don't see the bigger picture. You're so narrow minded that you can't see the revelation. The depth, knowledge, and understanding of the word of God is infinite. You need to ask the Holy Spirit to broaden your perception, because your still in the kiddie pool my friend.

I'm deep sea scuba diving over here, searching for the hidden treasures that are sunken in the word of God. You need to get out of the boat my friend. Ask the LORD to help you because your vision is obscured by factors that are hindering your spiritual perception into the deep things of God.

Amen.

You think you are in an ocean but you are not even in a puddle not even a pool. you cannot just apply double prophecy when ever you want, if a distinct time and a place is described you cannot just push beyond that to fit your argument. You cut the verse you want out of isaiah 13 to fit your ideology but leave out the rest you have done the same thing with the book jeremiah.

You have to deal with the textual problems with your interpretation and stop falling back on your arrogance stance that some how you have "meat" when you cannot answer the problems with your interpretations.

 

[DoUwant2go2Heaven]

The dollar has not been the ruler of the world since 1945 america did not become the sole superpower till the 1990's even 12 years olds know that, you are factually wrong and if you can be so clearly wrong on well know historical facts then what confidence should anyone have in your ability to understand prophecy.

You talk like you are giving some deep understanding but in reality you don't know what you are talking about the verses you use to make mystery babylon america would only fool some one who does not read for example you used

isaiah 13: 1-14 to prove your point but you did not put the whole of isa 13 to use, only the sections that you think will prove your point. Now here is isaiah 13: 15-22



15 Every one that is found shall be thrust through; and every one that is joined unto them shall fall by the sword.

16 Their children also shall be dashed to pieces before their eyes; their houses shall be spoiled, and their wives ravished.

17 Behold, I will stir up the Medes against them, which shall not regard silver; and as for gold, they shall not delight in it.

18 Their bows also shall dash the young men to pieces; and they shall have no pity on the fruit of the womb; their eyes shall not spare children.

19 And Babylon, the glory of kingdoms, the beauty of the Chaldees' excellency, shall be as when God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah.

20 It shall never be inhabited, neither shall it be dwelt in from generation to generation: neither shall the Arabian pitch tent there; neither shall the shepherds make their fold there.

21 But wild beasts of the desert shall lie there; and their houses shall be full of doleful creatures; and owls shall dwell there, and satyrs shall dance there.

22 And the wild beasts of the islands shall cry in their desolate houses, and dragons in their pleasant palaces: and her time is near to come, and her days shall not be prolonged.

In verse 19 isaiah calls babylon "the beauty of the chaldees' excellency" which indicates that the babylon being talked about must have been or is part of the empire of the chaldees. The USA was never part of that empire but large parts of arabia were and the bible refers to edom as being the daugher of babylon and edom is identified as being on the arabian penninsula

Psalms 137: 7-8

7 Remember, O LORD, the children of Edom in the day of Jerusalem; who said, Rase it, rase it, even to the foundation thereof.

8 O daughter of Babylon, who art to be destroyed; happy shall he be, that rewardeth thee as thou hast served us.

In verse 20 isaiah says " neither shall the arabian pitch tent there" america does not have a tradition of Arabs pitching tents. but the arabian peninsula does.

It's like I am talking to a brick wall. No matter how many TIMES I REPEAT myself you just don't get it!

DOUBLE FULFILLMENT OF PROPHECY! I mean I really don't know how else to put it. So until you show me some research in regards to your knowledge of double fulfillment of prophecy, meaning near and far fulfillment, I refuse to continue to talk to a brick wall.

Your arguments are pointless because you don't see the bigger picture. You're so narrow minded that you can't see the revelation. The depth, knowledge, and understanding of the word of God is infinite. You need to ask the Holy Spirit to broaden your perception, because your still in the kiddie pool my friend.

I'm deep sea scuba diving over here, searching for the hidden treasures that are sunken in the word of God. You need to get out of the boat my friend. Ask the LORD to help you because your vision is obscured by factors that are hindering your spiritual perception into the deep things of God.

Amen.

You think you are in an ocean but you are not even in a puddle not even a pool. you cannot just apply double prophecy when ever you want, if a distinct time and a place is described you cannot just push beyond that to fit your argument. You cut the verse you want out of isaiah 13 to fit your ideology but leave out the rest you have done the same thing with the book jeremiah.

You have to deal with the textual problems with your interpretation and stop falling back on your arrogance stance that some how you have "meat" when you cannot answer the problems with your interpretations.

The only reason why i stopped at verse 14 in my original post was because the post exceeded the allotted characters if I would have put the entire chapter. So please miss me with that excuse.

I've provided resource after resource for you to actually take the time to study, but you have refused knowledge and instruction.

I have given you scripture after sctipture which solidifies the truth but yet you have rejected that.

All you do is argue with EVERYBODY! There is nothing that you agree with. NOTHING!!!!!!!!!

All you do is go around threads and argue every point, with nothing to back up your claim.

You never give research, studies, or scriptures which identify Mecca as being Babylon the Great.

All you do is argue things you have no clue about. You don't even understand Double Fulfillment of prophecy. Basic christian foundations you have proven to be utterly clueless.

All you do is argue. Like I told you before you are a sanballat and tobiah all rolled into 1. But to God be the glory that your futile attempts at thwarting the message of God has been utterly abolished. May the LORD have mercy upon your soul. Amen.

 

[zombie]

The united states of america is not mystery babylon the theory that it is, is based on americanized understanding of the bible. The bible tells us directly where certain places are and it's not hard to find them yet american christains what to push things all the way to america.

Mystery babylon is in arabia, the end times will be focused on that world

the united states will be punished and our power will fall indeed it's falling right now but we won't be destroyed. Dod will revive america and together with other nations we shall destroy the anti-christ. The anti-christ will be a muslim, the false prophet will be believed to be the returned christ he will tell all christians that they were wrong and should convert to islam.

The real christ will come back at the head of an army and destroy them both and rule.

 

[zombie]

It may fall on deaf ears, but if you want understanding in regards to Isaiah 13. Here is just one of MANY resources that you can reference if you humble yourself. You are in my prayers.
http://wakeupbabylon.blogspot.com/2012/05/isaiah-13.html?q=babylon+won%27t+know

reading the words of others without thinking only leads you in the wrong way and you might want to take some of your own advice about being humble, you keep going on and on about meat like you are a butcher. But don't even know simple recent world history