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Tommy bilfiger;8508218 said:
Colby Rasmus accepted the astros qo.1st player ever to accept a qualifying offer

He really likes it down here. Plus he's been saying he didn't want to play more than a few more years anyway so he's trying to get his cash while he can. Good to have him back though he was on fire in the playoffs.

 
atl gonna open their new stadium in two years with like 14 people there lmao theres only two reasons i see a team who is building around pitching and defense trading away a player that has a glove that could land him in cooperstown at one of the most important positions on the field

1. defense is one of the skills (along with speed) that declines the earliest so they are probably concerned that once he begins to decline (peak age is said to be 29) he becomes a bad contract since his offense hasnt developed like they hoped it would (a .256 hitter in the 7 or 8 hole who is good for 3-4 WAR per year based on his fielding alone is good enough for me though)

and

2. theyre all in on their best prospect who plays the same position to be ready by the time simmons contract jumps so it frees up money to go towards other pieces

thing is, dude is 18 so he is at least 2 years away -- at the least -- so this idea they saying that they will be ready to compete by 2017 isnt realistic and at some point they need to start parlaying some of those chips into a hitter or two
 
ckfree;8510263 said:
thing is, dude is 18 so he is at least 2 years away -- at the least -- so this idea they saying that they will be ready to compete by 2017 isnt realistic and at some point they need to start parlaying some of those chips into a hitter or two

The braves reportedly like soler and they have plenty of pitching prospects.So I can see a possible soler trade to the braves for teheran,miller or a couple of their pitching prospects.
 
Tommy bilfiger;8510295 said:
ckfree;8510263 said:
thing is, dude is 18 so he is at least 2 years away -- at the least -- so this idea they saying that they will be ready to compete by 2017 isnt realistic and at some point they need to start parlaying some of those chips into a hitter or two

The braves reportedly like soler and they have plenty of pitching prospects.So I can see a possible soler trade to the braves for teheran,miller or a couple of their pitching prospects.

cleveland needs to improve their offense too

they were at the bottom despite having a top pitching staff

i could see the cubs trading with one of those two teams

im interested to see how theo operates this winter he gave out some bad contracts in boston but that couldve been pressure from LL + ownership i dont know
 
ckfree;8510314 said:
Tommy bilfiger;8510295 said:
ckfree;8510263 said:
thing is, dude is 18 so he is at least 2 years away -- at the least -- so this idea they saying that they will be ready to compete by 2017 isnt realistic and at some point they need to start parlaying some of those chips into a hitter or two

The braves reportedly like soler and they have plenty of pitching prospects.So I can see a possible soler trade to the braves for teheran,miller or a couple of their pitching prospects.

cleveland needs to improve their offense too

they were at the bottom despite having a top pitching staff

i could see the cubs trading with one of those two teams

im interested to see how theo operates this winter he gave out some bad contracts in boston but that couldve been pressure from LL + ownership i dont know

Yea the indians the other team that reportedly likes soler too.I'm hearing salazar or carrasco will be most likely moved for a bat

I don't think theo has dough to spend like that this winter,don't get me wrong they got dough to spend but they can't splurge on multiple big contracts until ricketts pays off the debt from when he bought the cubs which will be 2019.I think if theo signs a pitcher it will be zimmerman or shark unless price takes significantly less and they'll acquire one via trade(soler,castro or baez getting moved).Cubs said they want to get their own network after this current tv deal expires when that happens they'll be on the dodgers and yankees level of spending.
 
Tommy bilfiger;8510335 said:
ckfree;8510314 said:
Tommy bilfiger;8510295 said:
ckfree;8510263 said:
thing is, dude is 18 so he is at least 2 years away -- at the least -- so this idea they saying that they will be ready to compete by 2017 isnt realistic and at some point they need to start parlaying some of those chips into a hitter or two

The braves reportedly like soler and they have plenty of pitching prospects.So I can see a possible soler trade to the braves for teheran,miller or a couple of their pitching prospects.

cleveland needs to improve their offense too

they were at the bottom despite having a top pitching staff

i could see the cubs trading with one of those two teams

im interested to see how theo operates this winter he gave out some bad contracts in boston but that couldve been pressure from LL + ownership i dont know

Yea the indians the other team that reportedly likes soler too.I'm hearing salazar or carrasco will be most likely moved for a bat

I don't think theo has dough to spend like that this winter,don't get me wrong they got dough to spend but they can't splurge on multiple big contracts until ricketts pays off the debt from when he bought the cubs which will be 2019.I think if theo signs a pitcher it will be zimmerman or shark unless price takes significantly less and they'll acquire one via trade(soler,castro or baez getting moved).Cubs said they want to get their own network after this current tv deal expires when that happens they'll be on the dodgers and yankees level of spending.

yeah i was reading about that

price will be super expensive no way i see him taking less so they have to be careful signing him because if they do they could possibly lose arrieta in a couple years -- then in 2018/2019 they will be paying two pitchers past the age of 30 like 60 million at a time when all their hitters will want to get paid

if i was a cub fan i wouldnt trip at all it they go after a slightly lesser pitcher like shark who will give them more flexibility in later years and trading for another starter rather than just going after a big fish

they really just need a couple of solid pitchers to make the rotation deeper and maybe with a stronger back end and theyre good (on the pitching side)
 
ckfree;8510384 said:
Tommy bilfiger;8510335 said:
ckfree;8510314 said:
Tommy bilfiger;8510295 said:
ckfree;8510263 said:
thing is, dude is 18 so he is at least 2 years away -- at the least -- so this idea they saying that they will be ready to compete by 2017 isnt realistic and at some point they need to start parlaying some of those chips into a hitter or two

The braves reportedly like soler and they have plenty of pitching prospects.So I can see a possible soler trade to the braves for teheran,miller or a couple of their pitching prospects.

cleveland needs to improve their offense too

they were at the bottom despite having a top pitching staff

i could see the cubs trading with one of those two teams

im interested to see how theo operates this winter he gave out some bad contracts in boston but that couldve been pressure from LL + ownership i dont know

Yea the indians the other team that reportedly likes soler too.I'm hearing salazar or carrasco will be most likely moved for a bat

I don't think theo has dough to spend like that this winter,don't get me wrong they got dough to spend but they can't splurge on multiple big contracts until ricketts pays off the debt from when he bought the cubs which will be 2019.I think if theo signs a pitcher it will be zimmerman or shark unless price takes significantly less and they'll acquire one via trade(soler,castro or baez getting moved).Cubs said they want to get their own network after this current tv deal expires when that happens they'll be on the dodgers and yankees level of spending.

yeah i was reading about that

price will be super expensive no way i see him taking less so they have to be careful signing him because if they do they could possibly lose arrieta in a couple years -- then in 2018/2019 they will be paying two pitchers past the age of 30 like 60 million at a time when all their hitters will want to get paid

if i was a cub fan i wouldnt trip at all it they go after a slightly lesser pitcher like shark who will give them more flexibility in later years and trading for another starter rather than just going after a big fish

they really just need a couple of solid pitchers to make the rotation deeper and maybe with a stronger back end and theyre good (on the pitching side)

Basically.I ain't gonna front tho I'd love to get price or grienke cuz that would be a nasty trio for any team to face in a series and they could backload a contract to either of them so it aint out he realm of possibility.As far as arrieta goes I gotta see him pitch good 2 more years,obviously not at the level he was on this year but I need to see consistency before they talk extensions
 
Red Sox acquired Craig Kimbrel

Top outfield prospect Manuel Margot and lefty Logan Allen are two pieces of the return going to San Diego, Josh Norris of Baseball America reports (Twitter links). Likewise, infielder Carlos Asuaje is heading to the Pads, per Jeff Passan of Yahoo Sports (on Twitter). And shortstop Javier Guerra is another piece being shipped out of Boston, Alex Speier of the Boston Globe tweets.

 
Yea that's some bullshit, fuck Kimbrell too!

From what I read it looks like they gave up some pretty good prospects...that's GOAT, hopefully Kimbrell is terrible for them and all the prospects they traded end up being great lol.
 
1 top 50 prospect and another soon to be top 50 prospect for a closer

could have just resigned andrew miller last year

obviously a nice piece for a team that struggled in the pen but they gave up a lot but if kc proved anything -- its that a dominant bullpen can largely compensate for the ills of a lesser starting rotation + margot was gonna be log jammed anyway with all the outfielders boston already has
 
i dont know why teams with trash farm systems like the chicago white sox dont implore that 2012 marlin strategy

yeah the circumstances were very different but every trade deadline teams oversell for a front line pitcher or a big bat around the deadline hoping to make a playoff push

hahn need to throw 30 million to price or greinke

let them ball out for 3 months and then trade their asses for a slew of top tier prospects at the deadline

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Kris bryant named NL rookie of the year,big ups to the kid.He had alot of hype before his debut and lived up to it

Edit : Carlos Correa The AL rookie of the year
 
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ckfree;8518598 said:
https://twitter.com/RobertMurrayBBE/status/666384964313866240

well

thats a development

ff true, of course

This might change the game cuz I read the dodgers were trying to lower payroll,But I also read they wanted to bring grienke back and he said he loved that team.I'll believe it when I see it,don't see how they can lose grienke and not add another starter and if I was the dodgers I'd be petrified he'd end up on especially frisco or the cubs
 
Tommy bilfiger;8518648 said:
ckfree;8518598 said:
https://twitter.com/RobertMurrayBBE/status/666384964313866240

well

thats a development

ff true, of course

This might change the game cuz I read the dodgers were trying to lower payroll,But I also read they wanted to bring grienke back and he said he loved that team.I'll believe it when I see it,don't see how they can lose grienke and not add another starter and if I was the dodgers I'd be petrified he'd end up on especially frisco or the cubs

thats a good call

the giants have to get a pitcher

have to

they swung and missed on lester last year and supposedly the giants werent tripping because they knew this free agent class would be better

maybe thats why they let aoki walk to free up more money

man if the wc race was any idication the market should be interesting in the al especially because a lot of teams have to think theyre not far away from being contenders whereas theres a lot of bad teams in the nl
 
ckfree;8518785 said:
Tommy bilfiger;8518648 said:
ckfree;8518598 said:
https://twitter.com/RobertMurrayBBE/status/666384964313866240

well

thats a development

ff true, of course

This might change the game cuz I read the dodgers were trying to lower payroll,But I also read they wanted to bring grienke back and he said he loved that team.I'll believe it when I see it,don't see how they can lose grienke and not add another starter and if I was the dodgers I'd be petrified he'd end up on especially frisco or the cubs

thats a good call

the giants have to get a pitcher

have to

they swung and missed on lester last year and supposedly the giants werent tripping because they knew this free agent class would be better



maybe thats why they let aoki walk to free up more money

man if the wc race was any idication the market should be interesting in the al especially because a lot of teams have to think theyre not far away from being contenders whereas theres a lot of bad teams in the nl

Yup they got dough to spend.I wouldn't be surprised at all if they signed an ace like price or grienke AND added a zimmerman,leake or shark.It's gonna be an even year next year smdh only reason the giants missed the playoffs was injuries.That's the team to watch in free agency
 

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