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Tell the truth: Do you think Southern rappers and fans are dumber than you?
MAKAVELI25;1933774 said:Na, I don't look down on Southern rappers/fans. But I will say it's laughable when the South tries to say their rappers are just as good as NY rappers. I'm not even from NY and I will say that lyrically a lot of mediocre rappers shit on some of your so-called legends (Bun B, anyone?)
truth. People need to realize that southern rap "legends" and southern "classics" recieve their status on a much lenient scale. This is because of the HUGE talant gap between NY and the South. Notice how NY rap classics ( ready to die, illmatic, reasonable doubt, 36 chambers, etc.) are also considered classics in the South. However, the same can't be said for the vice versa... also niggas like bun b who are southern legends are like juelz santana status up north..
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jonathand;1934157 said:truth. People need to realize that southern rap "legends" and southern "classics" recieve their status on a much lenient scale. This is because of the HUGE talant gap between NY and the South. Notice how NY rap classics ( ready to die, illmatic, reasonable doubt, 36 chambers, etc.) are also considered classics in the South. However, the same can't be said for the vice versa... also niggas like bun b who are southern legends are like juelz santana status up north..
@ the bolded, that's not true, and I'm from up North. Don't say "up North" like it's synonymous with "New York" because that ain't the case. UGK is a legendary group no matter where you go. And the truth of the matter is that outside of a couple NY rappers, nobody over there is making classic music anymore, whereas rappers down South are remaining true to the culture and making classic material.
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soul rattler;1934192 said:@ the bolded, that's not true, and I'm from up North. Don't say "up North" like it's synonymous with "New York" because that ain't the case. UGK is a legendary group no matter where you go. And the truth of the matter is that outside of a couple NY rappers, nobody over there is making classic music anymore, whereas rappers down South are remaining true to the culture and making classic material.
Stop your bullshit. UGK is not considered no damn legendary group up here. They don't even play their damn music up here. As far as the South remaining "true to the culture and making classic material" that bullshit isn't even worth a response. I mean seriously are you aware of the state of rap right now?
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jonathand;1934203 said:Stop your bullshit. UGK is not considered no damn legendary group up here. They don't even play their damn music up here. As far as the South remaining "true to the culture and making classic material" that bullshit isn't even worth a response. I mean seriously are you aware of the state of rap right now?
What are you listening to? Hot97? Power 105 or whatever that shit is on commercial FM radio? Because real Hip Hop heads respect and appreciate Hip Hop no matter where it's coming from. I can already see where this conversation is going based on that dumbass question you just asked. There is nothing wrong with the state of rap besides closeminded xenophobic idiots that think their music is the only music that should exist.
Jay Electronica doesn't make classic music? J. Cole ain't makin good music? The Clipse can't spit? Bun B isn't one of the most revered figures in Hip Hop? Big Boi didn't just drop a classic album? Fuck outta here.
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It's gotten to a point where music transcends regions I listen to rappers from the UK and Canada, but I know that people on the east coast are listening to "stupid" music.
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ibedamned;1933922 said:how many niggas from NY shit on Bun B?
Lyrically? Are you serious? I don't know if y'all are just mezmorized by his 'trillness' or whatever, but I don't think Bun B is much better than Maino LYRICALLY to be honest
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soul rattler;1934192 said:@ the bolded, that's not true, and I'm from up North. Don't say "up North" like it's synonymous with "New York" because that ain't the case. UGK is a legendary group no matter where you go. And the truth of the matter is that outside of a couple NY rappers, nobody over there is making classic music anymore, whereas rappers down South are remaining true to the culture and making classic material.
dont argue wit him, he is not to be respected for he is a waka flocka fan thats frontin like he's a hip hop purist...
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MAKAVELI25;1934242 said:Lyrically? Are you serious? I don't know if y'all are just mezmorized by his 'trillness' or whatever, but I don't think Bun B is much better than Maino LYRICALLY to be honest
smgdh .
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soul rattler;1934237 said:What are you listening to? Hot97? Power 105 or whatever that shit is on commercial FM radio? Because real Hip Hop heads respect and appreciate Hip Hop no matter where it's coming from. I can already see where this conversation is going based on that dumbass question you just asked. There is nothing wrong with the state of rap besides closeminded xenophobic idiots that think their music is the only music that should exist.
Jay Electronica doesn't make classic music? J. Cole ain't makin good music? The Clipse can't spit? Bun B isn't one of the most revered figures in Hip Hop? Big Boi didn't just drop a classic album? Fuck outta here.
So in your obviously diluted world, hip hop is fine??? Ok. I surely can't argue with someone who doesn't fully comprehend the meaning of "classic" hip hop. I mean you say the South is dropping "classic" material then go on to say;
J. Cole ain't makin good music?
The Clipse can't spit?
How does that equate to classic music genius? How the hell is an album that just came out a damn classic? What the hell has Jay Electronica dropped that equates to classic music?? Do yourself a favor, study what makes a piece of hip hop work classic. Then come back and argue.
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G.R.I.P. Money $$$;1934255 said:smgdh .
Please post the lyricism. PLEASE post a verse or a song that has a Bun B verse that is LYRICALLY dope. I'll wait.
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MAKAVELI25;1934272 said:Please post the lyricism. PLEASE post a verse or a song that has a Bun B verse that is LYRICALLY dope. I'll wait.
lol if the nigga listens to Bun B for lyracism...then... I dont know what to say. i always wondered why southern niggas get mad when we attack lyracism then in the same breath say "it aint all about the lyrics.
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MAKAVELI25;1934272 said:Please post the lyricism. PLEASE post a verse or a song that has a Bun B verse that is LYRICALLY dope. I'll wait.
nigga i could make a hundred post worth of videos where he is lyrically above maino come on sun...
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Hatter;1934278 said:lol if the nigga listens to Bun B for lyracism...then... I dont know what to say. i always wondered why southern niggas get mad when we attack lyracism then in the same breath say "it aint all about the lyrics.
lol, i see u tryna start shit...
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jonathand;1934270 said:So in your obviously diluted world, hip hop is fine??? Ok. I surely can't argue with someone who doesn't fully comprehend the meaning of "classic" hip hop. I mean you say the South is dropping "classic" material then go on to say;
J. Cole ain't makin good music?
The Clipse can't spit?
How does that equate to classic music genius? How the hell is an album that just came out a damn classic? What the hell has Jay Electronica dropped that equates to classic music?? Do yourself a favor, study what makes a piece of hip hop work classic. Then come back and argue.
I won't even debate on the bolded because it's obvious I'm talkin to a fuckin brick wall. In 2011/2011, as a region, the South has done more for mainstream rap music than the Eastcoast. You just don't want to admit it.
And yes, Hip Hop is fine. There is balance, something for everyone to listen to at anytime. Hip Hop is in a better state than it's ever been. But like I said, you're probably one of those niggas that wants everybody to listen to what you like and nothing else.
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Hatter;1934278 said:lol if the nigga listens to Bun B for lyracism...then... I dont know what to say. i always wondered why southern niggas get mad when we attack lyracism then in the same breath say "it aint all about the lyrics.
bingo. I swear its like a episode from the twilight zone dealing with these niggas........
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G.R.I.P. Money $$$;1934300 said:lol, i see u tryna start shit...
lol im just saying Bun B aint that lyrical, its not a attack its the truth. he makes good music and i give him props, but when i wanna actually hear some tallent i dont throw on a UGK CD.
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Hatter;1934278 said:lol if the nigga listens to Bun B for lyracism...then... I dont know what to say. i always wondered why southern niggas get mad when we attack lyracism then in the same breath say "it aint all about the lyrics.
Why would you attack lyricism? You're trying to start shit.
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no i cant judge a whole region based on the shit i dont like. you do that you dismissin a lot of good people and interesting music. its smart people and decent rappers everywhere. i like lyrical shit, gangsta shit, well done conscious shit, and some of the trap shit too, dont care whose doing it or where long as i feel it. example i love texas rap (always have) but im from the north. it just depends on my mood....
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soul rattler;1934237 said:What are you listening to? Hot97? Power 105 or whatever that shit is on commercial FM radio? Because real Hip Hop heads respect and appreciate Hip Hop no matter where it's coming from. I can already see where this conversation is going based on that dumbass question you just asked. There is nothing wrong with the state of rap besides closeminded xenophobic idiots that think their music is the only music that should exist.
Jay Electronica doesn't make classic music? J. Cole ain't makin good music? The Clipse can't spit? Bun B isn't one of the most revered figures in Hip Hop? Big Boi didn't just drop a classic album? Fuck outta here.
3 of the 4 niggas you just named are east coast sounding rappers! smh
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