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brown321;c-9898080 said:Sister is on some conspiracy shit.
https://m.facebook.com/story.php?story_fbid=1275639079229734&id=100003509633509
Can't copy and paste.
Simone Scott is her name
LUClEN;c-9898067 said:Go figure;c-9898052 said:LUClEN;c-9898028 said:babelipsss;c-9897999 said:Calling 911 would not have been useless. Calling emergency services could have very well ended in a rescue. It's possible that they may have been in the area. Somebody close by could have been monitoring a CB radio. They may have made it in time. Who knows? Those teens didn't even try. Calling 911 at the very least would have insured that that black man ( who lived under the same system as those teens btw) would have been recovered decently instead of purifying in the hot Florida Sun. Calling 911 would have been far from useless.
People wanna half step all the fucking way. Why obligate people to have a duty to do useless shit when we could obligate them to actually help?
It's like the article says, people are just mad and want someone to blame. They had to dig up bullshit laws to satisfy the outcry, but these kids had no fucking duty, and it's partially because we've legitimized rightist individualism that they don't.
Wanna be mad, be mad at the people who say it's fine to not give a fuck.
Last thing here
Sounds like u are assuming the only ppl decrying the situation follow right wing ideologies.
One can be left leaning and still decry it
Or they can be left leaning and still believe they have no duty to do anything...just like u
The point is.....it makes no difference how u lean, its only deflection
Florida voted hugely in favour of right wing politics last election, despite its huge Cuban population (or maybe because of it). Now they want to erect laws that obligate people to help? Miss me with this faux outrage, pretend to be a good Samaritan nonsense
Look at the bullshit the people pushing for these kids to be tried are saying:
“If they can sit there and watch somebody die in front of their eyes, imagine what they’re going to do when they get older”
So what about these right wingers who can watch people die without healthcare and do nothing? I guess they're punishable, too right? But no, that would demand some consistency in what it is people value.
Go figure;c-9898113 said:LUClEN;c-9898067 said:Go figure;c-9898052 said:LUClEN;c-9898028 said:babelipsss;c-9897999 said:Calling 911 would not have been useless. Calling emergency services could have very well ended in a rescue. It's possible that they may have been in the area. Somebody close by could have been monitoring a CB radio. They may have made it in time. Who knows? Those teens didn't even try. Calling 911 at the very least would have insured that that black man ( who lived under the same system as those teens btw) would have been recovered decently instead of purifying in the hot Florida Sun. Calling 911 would have been far from useless.
People wanna half step all the fucking way. Why obligate people to have a duty to do useless shit when we could obligate them to actually help?
It's like the article says, people are just mad and want someone to blame. They had to dig up bullshit laws to satisfy the outcry, but these kids had no fucking duty, and it's partially because we've legitimized rightist individualism that they don't.
Wanna be mad, be mad at the people who say it's fine to not give a fuck.
Last thing here
Sounds like u are assuming the only ppl decrying the situation follow right wing ideologies.
One can be left leaning and still decry it
Or they can be left leaning and still believe they have no duty to do anything...just like u
The point is.....it makes no difference how u lean, its only deflection
Florida voted hugely in favour of right wing politics last election, despite its huge Cuban population (or maybe because of it). Now they want to erect laws that obligate people to help? Miss me with this faux outrage, pretend to be a good Samaritan nonsense
Look at the bullshit the people pushing for these kids to be tried are saying:
“If they can sit there and watch somebody die in front of their eyes, imagine what they’re going to do when they get older”
So what about these right wingers who can watch people die without healthcare and do nothing? I guess they're punishable, too right? But no, that would demand some consistency in what it is people value.
No faux outrage, good samaritan shit here. For maybe the 3rd or 4th time now...i believe the kids shouldnt face any charges or disciplinary action. Again, thats never been my argument here.
Go figure;c-9898113 said:And for those right wingers u are referring to...there are people that "decry" that too. Basically any networks not named FoxNews does so. Not even mentioning SNL and other forms of entertainment that mock trump.
So "the right wing exists" is not a good enough excuse, bc the left wing exists as well.
Their (in)actions were their choice.
LUClEN;c-9898133 said:Go figure;c-9898113 said:LUClEN;c-9898067 said:Go figure;c-9898052 said:LUClEN;c-9898028 said:babelipsss;c-9897999 said:Calling 911 would not have been useless. Calling emergency services could have very well ended in a rescue. It's possible that they may have been in the area. Somebody close by could have been monitoring a CB radio. They may have made it in time. Who knows? Those teens didn't even try. Calling 911 at the very least would have insured that that black man ( who lived under the same system as those teens btw) would have been recovered decently instead of purifying in the hot Florida Sun. Calling 911 would have been far from useless.
People wanna half step all the fucking way. Why obligate people to have a duty to do useless shit when we could obligate them to actually help?
It's like the article says, people are just mad and want someone to blame. They had to dig up bullshit laws to satisfy the outcry, but these kids had no fucking duty, and it's partially because we've legitimized rightist individualism that they don't.
Wanna be mad, be mad at the people who say it's fine to not give a fuck.
Last thing here
Sounds like u are assuming the only ppl decrying the situation follow right wing ideologies.
One can be left leaning and still decry it
Or they can be left leaning and still believe they have no duty to do anything...just like u
The point is.....it makes no difference how u lean, its only deflection
Florida voted hugely in favour of right wing politics last election, despite its huge Cuban population (or maybe because of it). Now they want to erect laws that obligate people to help? Miss me with this faux outrage, pretend to be a good Samaritan nonsense
Look at the bullshit the people pushing for these kids to be tried are saying:
“If they can sit there and watch somebody die in front of their eyes, imagine what they’re going to do when they get older”
So what about these right wingers who can watch people die without healthcare and do nothing? I guess they're punishable, too right? But no, that would demand some consistency in what it is people value.
No faux outrage, good samaritan shit here. For maybe the 3rd or 4th time now...i believe the kids shouldnt face any charges or disciplinary action. Again, thats never been my argument here.
I never levied my criticism towards you. I don't know why you've injected yourself into it.
Go figure;c-9898113 said:And for those right wingers u are referring to...there are people that "decry" that too. Basically any networks not named FoxNews does so. Not even mentioning SNL and other forms of entertainment that mock trump.
So "the right wing exists" is not a good enough excuse, bc the left wing exists as well.
Their (in)actions were their choice.
You just don't get it.
This is my last post.
p1: Leftist politics say you should help people
p2: rightist politics say you have no duty to help people
p3: both are acceptable in the current climate
p4: these kids did not help someone
C1: These kids refusing to help someone is not unacceptable according to the acceptance of rightist politics
P5: these kids not helping is actually unacceptable
p2[again]: rightist politics say you have no duty to help people
C2: Rightist politics are unacceptable
It's a very simple line of logic.
LUClEN;c-9898217 said:It doesn't matter whether or not they were conscious of it.
LUClEN;c-9898240 said:These kids never inflicted harm. There is a huge difference between causing harm, and not fulfilling a duty to help.
Your analogy fails.
Go figure;c-9898269 said:LUClEN;c-9898240 said:These kids never inflicted harm. There is a huge difference between causing harm, and not fulfilling a duty to help.
Your analogy fails.
Inflicting harm on someone for personal gain (car jack, strong arm robbery) is about as apathetic as it gets. U couldnt care less for this life, u want their money/property n will kill if need be.
Like how the right wing steal from the poor to enrich themselves and in turn make those neighborhoods violent due to poverty they cause. If those ppl werent poor thered be less violence, as the right wingers remain indifferent to do anything.
From your logic these are the same things no?
LUClEN;c-9898279 said:Go figure;c-9898269 said:LUClEN;c-9898240 said:These kids never inflicted harm. There is a huge difference between causing harm, and not fulfilling a duty to help.
Your analogy fails.
Inflicting harm on someone for personal gain (car jack, strong arm robbery) is about as apathetic as it gets. U couldnt care less for this life, u want their money/property n will kill if need be.
Like how the right wing steal from the poor to enrich themselves and in turn make those neighborhoods violent due to poverty they cause. If those ppl werent poor thered be less violence, as the right wingers remain indifferent to do anything.
From your logic these are the same things no?
No. Those imply different kinds of moral and legal culpability. They're both kinds of apathy, I agree with that, but the person who inflicts harm is infringing on someone's positive rights rather than someone's negative rights.
LUClEN;c-9898298 said:The right wing isn't taking it. They already have it. They are denying help to those around them. That is what makes it comparable to this scenario and incomparable to yours.
LUClEN;c-9898313 said:The poor people never owned those neighbourhoods to begin with. That's how they get kicked out, cause other rich people sell the property. The wealthy by and large own most everything already.
I don't understand how you go from defending these beliefs to now criticizing them.
https://www.google.com/amp/www.nbcn...detroit-leaves-black-residents-behind-n412476LUClEN;c-9898313 said:The poor people never owned those neighbourhoods to begin with. That's how they get kicked out, cause other rich people sell the property. The wealthy by and large own most everything already.
LUClEN;c-9898329 said:They never owned that property. They were leasing.