Teens film and laugh at drowning man instead of calling for help!

[blackrain]

The question remains; Are the teens guilty of Criminal Negligence?

Criminal Negligence

The degree of culpability is determined by applying a reasonable person standard. Criminal negligence becomes "gross" when the failure to foresee involves a "wanton disregard for human life" (see the discussion in corporate manslaughter).

The maximum penalties for criminal negligence causing bodily harm and death are 10 years (14 years if the conviction is for street racing causing bodily harm) and life imprisonment, respectively.

IMO they could be charged with Criminal Negligence for not calling 911. Their family lost all contact of the victim and had gone days without seeing him. They (the family) reported him "missing". If the teens had called 911 at least the family would have known what happened to him.

They won't be charged. CNN confirmed this. Can't arrest someone for being an asshole.

@twentyfivelighters they've been charged

Good fuck those niggers

Watch it with that "nigger" shit. You could disagree with these dudes and their individual characters without jumping off the racist deep-end.

This the type of shit I wonder how mods let rock on here.

It was like a 20 minute time gap between his post and yours. Mods ain't on here every second....post is buried. Poster has been will be dealt with.

 

[Go figure]

10-20. That's just a guess though. It could be more or it could be less.

The existence of worldstar doesn't mean that there is no contradiction in America's beliefs here, just so you know. Either we see ourselves as having a duty to help others, or we do not. By and large, America does not seem to think that duty exists, and from what my web search shows there are not many laws that say that it exists.

Bruh we're talkin about 14-16 yr olds. A highly impressionable age group.

2 hrs/

week watching the news vs 20 hrs playing/watching violence

What do u think has a greater effect on them in terms of desensitization?

That assumes that the news is the only outlet where these ideologies manifest

So then where else do u think your average 14-16 yr old learns about single payer health coverage and white supremacist organizations?

Is maybe social studies class making these kids apathetic as well?

From their parents, teachers, uncles, aunts, grandparents, etc

And same as you have ppl like Trump and Romney who like to portray themselves as self made and the poor as the "takers"

Film, tv, video games, etc reinforce and help perpetuate American individualism or rather this idea that comfort and success result from personal qualities and white supremacy as well

And i would agree it does foster apathy and resentment for certain segments of the society

Consider the way blk ppl are portrayed in film and tv with negative stereotypes for example

Or the way the needy and or poor are portrayed as the takers or lazy or irresponsible

Its really not hard to see

And evident in the way most mainstream americans respond coldly to incidences of police misconduct when the victim is blk and or poor

Or the fact that most americans don't believe healthcare should be a right

So with all that said...do u think this is the fault of a single political party?

Also consider trump's approval rating is the lowest for any president in america's history if we are going to draw those parallels

What happened with the man is an extreme case

And no one party, movie, game is responsible

Its a combination of things

But the Right does a lot to push certain narratives and ideas that foster apathy

I agree. So saying something like "i blame the political right" is ignoring the whole "combination of things" and making the conversation of this incident into something political when it shouldnt be.

 

[(Nope)]

10-20. That's just a guess though. It could be more or it could be less.

The existence of worldstar doesn't mean that there is no contradiction in America's beliefs here, just so you know. Either we see ourselves as having a duty to help others, or we do not. By and large, America does not seem to think that duty exists, and from what my web search shows there are not many laws that say that it exists.

Bruh we're talkin about 14-16 yr olds. A highly impressionable age group.

2 hrs/

week watching the news vs 20 hrs playing/watching violence

What do u think has a greater effect on them in terms of desensitization?

That assumes that the news is the only outlet where these ideologies manifest

So then where else do u think your average 14-16 yr old learns about single payer health coverage and white supremacist organizations?

Is maybe social studies class making these kids apathetic as well?

I don't get how you don't understand the basic concept of duty. America, by and large, doesn't see helping others as something people are obligated to do; these kids did not have a duty to do shit. If the law says they do have a duty to risk their well being for other people, then we have that duty in other scenarios. In other scenarios we do not, so we do not have a duty here.

Im not arguing whether they have a duty or not. I dont think they do either. We never disagreed there. What they did was distasteful but not criminal.

My argument is the teens actions have nothing to do with the politics that u brought into the thread. Them being scumbags and laughing at a dying person in imminent danger has nothing to with whos holding office.

Yes it does. It speaks to the rabid individualism and apathy within this country. You don't see a correlation between the proliferation of videos like these to generate capital (financial or social) and the polity of a state like Florida? (Take for instance Governor Scott.)

Our elected politicians don't speak to broader philosophical leanings?

These kids live in a country that has told them it doesn't give a fuck about them and will only pay attention to them when something morbid happens, so they capitalized on that. That's what they've been trained to do.

So when we talk about accountability in a place where accountability means profit before people, these kids demonstrated accountability. They pulled up their bootstraps, pulled out their phones and filmed that poor man's death.

If they've failed morally, then so have we.

 

[(Nope)]

10-20. That's just a guess though. It could be more or it could be less.

The existence of worldstar doesn't mean that there is no contradiction in America's beliefs here, just so you know. Either we see ourselves as having a duty to help others, or we do not. By and large, America does not seem to think that duty exists, and from what my web search shows there are not many laws that say that it exists.

Bruh we're talkin about 14-16 yr olds. A highly impressionable age group.

2 hrs/

week watching the news vs 20 hrs playing/watching violence

What do u think has a greater effect on them in terms of desensitization?

That assumes that the news is the only outlet where these ideologies manifest

So then where else do u think your average 14-16 yr old learns about single payer health coverage and white supremacist organizations?

Is maybe social studies class making these kids apathetic as well?

From their parents, teachers, uncles, aunts, grandparents, etc

And same as you have ppl like Trump and Romney who like to portray themselves as self made and the poor as the "takers"

Film, tv, video games, etc reinforce and help perpetuate American individualism or rather this idea that comfort and success result from personal qualities and white supremacy as well

And i would agree it does foster apathy and resentment for certain segments of the society

Consider the way blk ppl are portrayed in film and tv with negative stereotypes for example

Or the way the needy and or poor are portrayed as the takers or lazy or irresponsible

Its really not hard to see

And evident in the way most mainstream americans respond coldly to incidences of police misconduct when the victim is blk and or poor

Or the fact that most americans don't believe healthcare should be a right

So with all that said...do u think this is the fault of a single political party?

Also consider trump's approval rating is the lowest for any president in america's history if we are going to draw those parallels

What happened with the man is an extreme case

And no one party, movie, game is responsible

Its a combination of things

But the Right does a lot to push certain narratives and ideas that foster apathy

I agree. So saying something like "i blame the political right" is ignoring the whole "combination of things" and making the conversation of this incident into something political when it shouldnt be.

What creates that combination of things? What ideas? What system?

 

[Go figure]

10-20. That's just a guess though. It could be more or it could be less.

The existence of worldstar doesn't mean that there is no contradiction in America's beliefs here, just so you know. Either we see ourselves as having a duty to help others, or we do not. By and large, America does not seem to think that duty exists, and from what my web search shows there are not many laws that say that it exists.

Bruh we're talkin about 14-16 yr olds. A highly impressionable age group.

2 hrs/

week watching the news vs 20 hrs playing/watching violence

What do u think has a greater effect on them in terms of desensitization?

That assumes that the news is the only outlet where these ideologies manifest

So then where else do u think your average 14-16 yr old learns about single payer health coverage and white supremacist organizations?

Is maybe social studies class making these kids apathetic as well?

From their parents, teachers, uncles, aunts, grandparents, etc

And same as you have ppl like Trump and Romney who like to portray themselves as self made and the poor as the "takers"

Film, tv, video games, etc reinforce and help perpetuate American individualism or rather this idea that comfort and success result from personal qualities and white supremacy as well

And i would agree it does foster apathy and resentment for certain segments of the society

Consider the way blk ppl are portrayed in film and tv with negative stereotypes for example

Or the way the needy and or poor are portrayed as the takers or lazy or irresponsible

Its really not hard to see

And evident in the way most mainstream americans respond coldly to incidences of police misconduct when the victim is blk and or poor

Or the fact that most americans don't believe healthcare should be a right

So with all that said...do u think this is the fault of a single political party?

Also consider trump's approval rating is the lowest for any president in america's history if we are going to draw those parallels

What happened with the man is an extreme case

And no one party, movie, game is responsible

Its a combination of things

But the Right does a lot to push certain narratives and ideas that foster apathy

I agree. So saying something like "i blame the political right" is ignoring the whole "combination of things" and making the conversation of this incident into something political when it shouldnt be.

What creates that combination of things? What ideas? What system?

I know what youre trying to get at. If youre talking about the "american individualistic" system....why isnt everyone who feels slighted by it apathetic?

I assume there are more ppl who arent apathetic than those who are this is more an exception than the rule

When in history and under what system has apathy ceased to exist?

 

[Go figure]

10-20. That's just a guess though. It could be more or it could be less.

The existence of worldstar doesn't mean that there is no contradiction in America's beliefs here, just so you know. Either we see ourselves as having a duty to help others, or we do not. By and large, America does not seem to think that duty exists, and from what my web search shows there are not many laws that say that it exists.

Bruh we're talkin about 14-16 yr olds. A highly impressionable age group.

2 hrs/

week watching the news vs 20 hrs playing/watching violence

What do u think has a greater effect on them in terms of desensitization?

That assumes that the news is the only outlet where these ideologies manifest

So then where else do u think your average 14-16 yr old learns about single payer health coverage and white supremacist organizations?

Is maybe social studies class making these kids apathetic as well?

I don't get how you don't understand the basic concept of duty. America, by and large, doesn't see helping others as something people are obligated to do; these kids did not have a duty to do shit. If the law says they do have a duty to risk their well being for other people, then we have that duty in other scenarios. In other scenarios we do not, so we do not have a duty here.

Im not arguing whether they have a duty or not. I dont think they do either. We never disagreed there. What they did was distasteful but not criminal.

My argument is the teens actions have nothing to do with the politics that u brought into the thread. Them being scumbags and laughing at a dying person in imminent danger has nothing to with whos holding office.

Yes it does.

So if this had happened while obama was in office would u blame him?

 

[R0mp]

Callous.

 

[R0mp]

Would you let a stranger die in front of you? If you had the ability to get them help?

 

[Splackavelli]

The question remains; Are the teens guilty of Criminal Negligence?

Criminal Negligence

The degree of culpability is determined by applying a reasonable person standard. Criminal negligence becomes "gross" when the failure to foresee involves a "wanton disregard for human life" (see the discussion in corporate manslaughter).

The maximum penalties for criminal negligence causing bodily harm and death are 10 years (14 years if the conviction is for street racing causing bodily harm) and life imprisonment, respectively.

IMO they could be charged with Criminal Negligence for not calling 911. Their family lost all contact of the victim and had gone days without seeing him. They (the family) reported him "missing". If the teens had called 911 at least the family would have known what happened to him.

They won't be charged. CNN confirmed this. Can't arrest someone for being an asshole.

@twentyfivelighters they've been charged

Good fuck those niggers

Watch it with that "nigger" shit. You could disagree with these dudes and their individual characters without jumping off the racist deep-end.

This the type of shit I wonder how mods let rock on here.

I'm black and it's not racism it's called self hatred and my hatred for those little fuck niggas is justified

 

[JJ_Evans]

The question remains; Are the teens guilty of Criminal Negligence?

Criminal Negligence

The degree of culpability is determined by applying a reasonable person standard. Criminal negligence becomes "gross" when the failure to foresee involves a "wanton disregard for human life" (see the discussion in corporate manslaughter).

The maximum penalties for criminal negligence causing bodily harm and death are 10 years (14 years if the conviction is for street racing causing bodily harm) and life imprisonment, respectively.

IMO they could be charged with Criminal Negligence for not calling 911. Their family lost all contact of the victim and had gone days without seeing him. They (the family) reported him "missing". If the teens had called 911 at least the family would have known what happened to him.

They won't be charged. CNN confirmed this. Can't arrest someone for being an asshole.

@twentyfivelighters they've been charged

Good fuck those niggers

Watch it with that "nigger" shit. You could disagree with these dudes and their individual characters without jumping off the racist deep-end.

This the type of shit I wonder how mods let rock on here.

I'm black and it's not racism it's called self hatred and my hatred for those little fuck niggas is justified

 

[twentyfivelighters]

The question remains; Are the teens guilty of Criminal Negligence?

Criminal Negligence

The degree of culpability is determined by applying a reasonable person standard. Criminal negligence becomes "gross" when the failure to foresee involves a "wanton disregard for human life" (see the discussion in corporate manslaughter).

The maximum penalties for criminal negligence causing bodily harm and death are 10 years (14 years if the conviction is for street racing causing bodily harm) and life imprisonment, respectively.

IMO they could be charged with Criminal Negligence for not calling 911. Their family lost all contact of the victim and had gone days without seeing him. They (the family) reported him "missing". If the teens had called 911 at least the family would have known what happened to him.

They won't be charged. CNN confirmed this. Can't arrest someone for being an asshole.

@twentyfivelighters they've been charged

Good fuck those niggers

Watch it with that "nigger" shit. You could disagree with these dudes and their individual characters without jumping off the racist deep-end.

This the type of shit I wonder how mods let rock on here.

I'm black and it's not racism it's called self hatred and my hatred for those little fuck niggas is justified

Grand openin grand closin

 

[(Nope)]

10-20. That's just a guess though. It could be more or it could be less.

The existence of worldstar doesn't mean that there is no contradiction in America's beliefs here, just so you know. Either we see ourselves as having a duty to help others, or we do not. By and large, America does not seem to think that duty exists, and from what my web search shows there are not many laws that say that it exists.

Bruh we're talkin about 14-16 yr olds. A highly impressionable age group.

2 hrs/

week watching the news vs 20 hrs playing/watching violence

What do u think has a greater effect on them in terms of desensitization?

That assumes that the news is the only outlet where these ideologies manifest

So then where else do u think your average 14-16 yr old learns about single payer health coverage and white supremacist organizations?

Is maybe social studies class making these kids apathetic as well?

I don't get how you don't understand the basic concept of duty. America, by and large, doesn't see helping others as something people are obligated to do; these kids did not have a duty to do shit. If the law says they do have a duty to risk their well being for other people, then we have that duty in other scenarios. In other scenarios we do not, so we do not have a duty here.

Im not arguing whether they have a duty or not. I dont think they do either. We never disagreed there. What they did was distasteful but not criminal.

My argument is the teens actions have nothing to do with the politics that u brought into the thread. Them being scumbags and laughing at a dying person in imminent danger has nothing to with whos holding office.

Yes it does.

So if this had happened while obama was in office would u blame him?

American's were unapologetically individualistic during Obama's presidency. We are discussing broader social philosophical leanings, and the election of Trump is just a manifestation and confirmation of that.

These children are imitating behavior that has been modeled in various arenas and deemed desirable.

That doesn't absolve them of guilt. But they are a symptom, not the disease.

Until we come together en masse and decide that accountability includes the well-being of others, then there is nothing aberrant about their behavior.

 

[genocidecutter]

Those bastards

 

[5 Grand]

So let me get this straight; Its Donald Trumps fault that that man drowned and the kids didn't call 911?

 

[LUClEN]

So let me get this straight; Its Donald Trumps fault that that man drowned and the kids didn't call 911?

Nobody mentioned Donald Trump. It's the kind of selfish, uncaring, apathetic beliefs that exist on the right side of the political spectrum that coincide with and support the unwillingness to help that we see in this video.

 

[Huey_C]

10-20. That's just a guess though. It could be more or it could be less.

The existence of worldstar doesn't mean that there is no contradiction in America's beliefs here, just so you know. Either we see ourselves as having a duty to help others, or we do not. By and large, America does not seem to think that duty exists, and from what my web search shows there are not many laws that say that it exists.

Bruh we're talkin about 14-16 yr olds. A highly impressionable age group.

2 hrs/

week watching the news vs 20 hrs playing/watching violence

What do u think has a greater effect on them in terms of desensitization?

That assumes that the news is the only outlet where these ideologies manifest

So then where else do u think your average 14-16 yr old learns about single payer health coverage and white supremacist organizations?

Is maybe social studies class making these kids apathetic as well?

I don't get how you don't understand the basic concept of duty. America, by and large, doesn't see helping others as something people are obligated to do; these kids did not have a duty to do shit. If the law says they do have a duty to risk their well being for other people, then we have that duty in other scenarios. In other scenarios we do not, so we do not have a duty here.

Im not arguing whether they have a duty or not. I dont think they do either. We never disagreed there. What they did was distasteful but not criminal.

My argument is the teens actions have nothing to do with the politics that u brought into the thread. Them being scumbags and laughing at a dying person in imminent danger has nothing to with whos holding office.

Yes it does.

So if this had happened while obama was in office would u blame him?

American's were unapologetically individualistic during Obama's presidency. We are discussing broader social philosophical leanings, and the election of Trump is just a manifestation and confirmation of that.

These children are imitating behavior that has been modeled in various arenas and deemed desirable.

That doesn't absolve them of guilt. But they are a symptom, not the disease.

Until we come together en masse and decide that accountability includes the well-being of others, then there is nothing aberrant about their behavior.

So let me get this straight; Its Donald Trumps fault that that man drowned and the kids didn't call 911?

Nobody mentioned Donald Trump. It's the kind of selfish, uncaring, apathetic beliefs that exist on the right side of the political spectrum that coincide with and support the unwillingness to help that we see in this video.

 

[Huey_C]

I hope MFs ain't gettin behind any law that requires Black folks to call 911.

Dude was drowning just fucking call 911

Lol... how fast do y'all think 911 travel. Dude was already a goner by the time they realized he was gonna drown. Even if they did, and yes I agree they should have... at best the only thing they could do was point out the general area where he was last seen and the body would've been recovered earlier.

And all y'all sayin they should've swam out or threw something to him either didn't watch the video or have terrible spatial awareness.

They fucked up for laughing and recording but his death was his own fault

Someone is drowning, burning, bleeding out call 911. Period, no debate. Even if that person is dying atleast their family can be notified and they'll have that aspect of closure. If u can administer first aid than cool but only in a logical situation.

 

[LUClEN]

My argument still holds even if you remove Trump or any president for that matter. Nixon, Regan, Bush, McCain, Limbaugh, Laren, DeVos... Pick a right winger, any right winger. Many of their views are still in direct conflict with the notion that we have a duty to help our fellow man

You guys are so desperate to refute the argument you can't even address it. You're reaching at the air.

 

[Go figure]

10-20. That's just a guess though. It could be more or it could be less.

The existence of worldstar doesn't mean that there is no contradiction in America's beliefs here, just so you know. Either we see ourselves as having a duty to help others, or we do not. By and large, America does not seem to think that duty exists, and from what my web search shows there are not many laws that say that it exists.

Bruh we're talkin about 14-16 yr olds. A highly impressionable age group.

2 hrs/

week watching the news vs 20 hrs playing/watching violence

What do u think has a greater effect on them in terms of desensitization?

That assumes that the news is the only outlet where these ideologies manifest

So then where else do u think your average 14-16 yr old learns about single payer health coverage and white supremacist organizations?

Is maybe social studies class making these kids apathetic as well?

I don't get how you don't understand the basic concept of duty. America, by and large, doesn't see helping others as something people are obligated to do; these kids did not have a duty to do shit. If the law says they do have a duty to risk their well being for other people, then we have that duty in other scenarios. In other scenarios we do not, so we do not have a duty here.

Im not arguing whether they have a duty or not. I dont think they do either. We never disagreed there. What they did was distasteful but not criminal.

My argument is the teens actions have nothing to do with the politics that u brought into the thread. Them being scumbags and laughing at a dying person in imminent danger has nothing to with whos holding office.

Yes it does.

So if this had happened while obama was in office would u blame him?

American's were unapologetically individualistic during Obama's presidency. We are discussing broader social philosophical leanings, and the election of Trump is just a manifestation and confirmation of that.

These children are imitating behavior that has been modeled in various arenas and deemed desirable.

That doesn't absolve them of guilt. But they are a symptom, not the disease.

Until we come together en masse and decide that accountability includes the well-being of others, then there is nothing aberrant about their behavior.

"Americans were unapologetically individualistic during obama's presidency"

Are u attributing this to obama holding office?

Does obama fall under "the political right"?

Because if not, we can now file "i blame the political right" under "false statement"...at least you are being consistent tho

Again, please tell me under what system or set of ideas where apathy ceased to exist.

 

[Go figure]

My argument still holds even if you remove Trump or any president for that matter. Nixon, Regan, Bush, McCain, Limbaugh, Laren, DeVos... Pick a right winger, any right winger. Many of their views are still in direct conflict with the notion that we have a duty to help our fellow man

You guys are so desperate to refute the argument you can't even address it. You're reaching at the air.

Do u have an apathy meter we dont know about?

One can argue the murder rate in the highest poverty stricken neighborhoods have a high rate of apathy.

With that said, those conditions exist regardless of "left or right wing"

Do u disagree?