Teens film and laugh at drowning man instead of calling for help!

[LUClEN]

10-20. That's just a guess though. It could be more or it could be less.

The existence of worldstar doesn't mean that there is no contradiction in America's beliefs here, just so you know. Either we see ourselves as having a duty to help others, or we do not. By and large, America does not seem to think that duty exists, and from what my web search shows there are not many laws that say that it exists.

 

[Go figure]

10-20. That's just a guess though. It could be more or it could be less.

The existence of worldstar doesn't mean that there is no contradiction in America's beliefs here, just so you know. Either we see ourselves as having a duty to help others, or we do not. By and large, America does not seem to think that duty exists, and from what my web search shows there are not many laws that say that it exists.

Bruh we're talkin about 14-16 yr olds. A highly impressionable age group.

2 hrs/

week watching the news vs 20 hrs playing/watching violence

What do u think has a greater effect on them in terms of desensitization?

 

[LUClEN]

10-20. That's just a guess though. It could be more or it could be less.

The existence of worldstar doesn't mean that there is no contradiction in America's beliefs here, just so you know. Either we see ourselves as having a duty to help others, or we do not. By and large, America does not seem to think that duty exists, and from what my web search shows there are not many laws that say that it exists.

Bruh we're talkin about 14-16 yr olds. A highly impressionable age group.

2 hrs/

week watching the news vs 20 hrs playing/watching violence

What do u think has a greater effect on them in terms of desensitization?

That assumes that the news is the only outlet where these ideologies manifest, which is far from true. The overarching social framework perpetuates these ideas in its laws, social mores, folkways, etc. It's bigger than that though, because now it's a legal issue. This is a matter of what is punishable. We can't mandate that people have a duty to help each other, but at the same time also say fuck other people if your poor/elderly/sick/handicapped/gay/transgender/illegal/etc

 

[Inglewood_B]

And this shit was in Florida too. Those kids probably assumed that lake/pond was full of gators. That mightve contributed to the "Nah I'm not jumping in after yo dumbass! LOL."

 

[7figz]

What about the son of that Australian chick who just got killed by the cops when she called 911 ?

Think he should be obligated to "call 911" too ?

 

[Go figure]

10-20. That's just a guess though. It could be more or it could be less.

The existence of worldstar doesn't mean that there is no contradiction in America's beliefs here, just so you know. Either we see ourselves as having a duty to help others, or we do not. By and large, America does not seem to think that duty exists, and from what my web search shows there are not many laws that say that it exists.

Bruh we're talkin about 14-16 yr olds. A highly impressionable age group.

2 hrs/

week watching the news vs 20 hrs playing/watching violence

What do u think has a greater effect on them in terms of desensitization?

That assumes that the news is the only outlet where these ideologies manifest

So then where else do u think your average 14-16 yr old learns about single payer health coverage and white supremacist organizations?

Is maybe social studies class making these kids apathetic as well?

 

[mike030270]

They could have thrown something nearby if it floated

There was 80+ people on a beach in florida making a human chain to save a family from drowning last week

Even if they called and help didn't make it on time and the guy still drowned, people would have praised them for at least trying to help

Did it sound like 80+ people in that video to form a human chain? What exactly do you think a couple teenagers had on hand to throw to him? And do you seriously think they could've thrown it that far?

You could barely see dude in the video. If there was no sound and no one told you it was a man drowning you'd have no idea what that was in the water because he was so far away

Doesn't need 80 people to help. That was the point. I doubt they had anything on them that would float to help. Looked like they were near the woods though. I could always find big ass branches in the woods when I was a kid. Get knee high in the water and reach with it. May not work out but it's something. Better than doing nothing but mocking the man drowning

 

[LUClEN]

10-20. That's just a guess though. It could be more or it could be less.

The existence of worldstar doesn't mean that there is no contradiction in America's beliefs here, just so you know. Either we see ourselves as having a duty to help others, or we do not. By and large, America does not seem to think that duty exists, and from what my web search shows there are not many laws that say that it exists.

Bruh we're talkin about 14-16 yr olds. A highly impressionable age group.

2 hrs/

week watching the news vs 20 hrs playing/watching violence

What do u think has a greater effect on them in terms of desensitization?

That assumes that the news is the only outlet where these ideologies manifest

So then where else do u think your average 14-16 yr old learns about single payer health coverage and white supremacist organizations?

Is maybe social studies class making these kids apathetic as well?

I don't get how you don't understand the basic concept of duty. America, by and large, doesn't see helping others as something people are obligated to do; these kids did not have a duty to do shit. If the law says they do have a duty to risk their well being for other people, then we have that duty in other scenarios. In other scenarios we do not, so we do not have a duty here.

 

[Go figure]

10-20. That's just a guess though. It could be more or it could be less.

The existence of worldstar doesn't mean that there is no contradiction in America's beliefs here, just so you know. Either we see ourselves as having a duty to help others, or we do not. By and large, America does not seem to think that duty exists, and from what my web search shows there are not many laws that say that it exists.

Bruh we're talkin about 14-16 yr olds. A highly impressionable age group.

2 hrs/

week watching the news vs 20 hrs playing/watching violence

What do u think has a greater effect on them in terms of desensitization?

That assumes that the news is the only outlet where these ideologies manifest

So then where else do u think your average 14-16 yr old learns about single payer health coverage and white supremacist organizations?

Is maybe social studies class making these kids apathetic as well?

I don't get how you don't understand the basic concept of duty. America, by and large, doesn't see helping others as something people are obligated to do; these kids did not have a duty to do shit. If the law says they do have a duty to risk their well being for other people, then we have that duty in other scenarios. In other scenarios we do not, so we do not have a duty here.

Im not arguing whether they have a duty or not. I dont think they do either. We never disagreed there. What they did was distasteful but not criminal.

My argument is the teens actions have nothing to do with the politics that u brought into the thread. Them being scumbags and laughing at a dying person in imminent danger has nothing to with whos holding office.

 

[LUClEN]

10-20. That's just a guess though. It could be more or it could be less.

The existence of worldstar doesn't mean that there is no contradiction in America's beliefs here, just so you know. Either we see ourselves as having a duty to help others, or we do not. By and large, America does not seem to think that duty exists, and from what my web search shows there are not many laws that say that it exists.

Bruh we're talkin about 14-16 yr olds. A highly impressionable age group.

2 hrs/

week watching the news vs 20 hrs playing/watching violence

What do u think has a greater effect on them in terms of desensitization?

That assumes that the news is the only outlet where these ideologies manifest

So then where else do u think your average 14-16 yr old learns about single payer health coverage and white supremacist organizations?

Is maybe social studies class making these kids apathetic as well?

I don't get how you don't understand the basic concept of duty. America, by and large, doesn't see helping others as something people are obligated to do; these kids did not have a duty to do shit. If the law says they do have a duty to risk their well being for other people, then we have that duty in other scenarios. In other scenarios we do not, so we do not have a duty here.

Im not arguing whether they have a duty or not. I dont think they do either. We never disagreed there. What they did was distasteful but not criminal.

My argument is the teens actions have nothing to do with the politics that u brought into the thread. Them being scumbags and laughing at a dying person in imminent danger has nothing to with whos holding office.

It does when the person currently in office makes fun of handicapped people and robs millions of life-saving health care. We cannot be both in favour of this kind of behaviour and against it: we need to pick a side and be consistent. If we are bothered by what happened in this story, which you seem to be, then the right-wing criticism I made here is fitting.

 

[Go figure]

10-20. That's just a guess though. It could be more or it could be less.

The existence of worldstar doesn't mean that there is no contradiction in America's beliefs here, just so you know. Either we see ourselves as having a duty to help others, or we do not. By and large, America does not seem to think that duty exists, and from what my web search shows there are not many laws that say that it exists.

Bruh we're talkin about 14-16 yr olds. A highly impressionable age group.

2 hrs/

week watching the news vs 20 hrs playing/watching violence

What do u think has a greater effect on them in terms of desensitization?

That assumes that the news is the only outlet where these ideologies manifest

So then where else do u think your average 14-16 yr old learns about single payer health coverage and white supremacist organizations?

Is maybe social studies class making these kids apathetic as well?

I don't get how you don't understand the basic concept of duty. America, by and large, doesn't see helping others as something people are obligated to do; these kids did not have a duty to do shit. If the law says they do have a duty to risk their well being for other people, then we have that duty in other scenarios. In other scenarios we do not, so we do not have a duty here.

Im not arguing whether they have a duty or not. I dont think they do either. We never disagreed there. What they did was distasteful but not criminal.

My argument is the teens actions have nothing to do with the politics that u brought into the thread. Them being scumbags and laughing at a dying person in imminent danger has nothing to with whos holding office.

It does when the person currently in office makes fun of handicapped people and robs millions of life-saving health care. We cannot be both in favour of this kind of behaviour and against it: we need to pick a side and be consistent. If we are bothered by what happened in this story, which you seem to be, then the right-wing criticism I made here is fitting.

So if this had happened before the election where would u place the blame?

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

10-20. That's just a guess though. It could be more or it could be less.

The existence of worldstar doesn't mean that there is no contradiction in America's beliefs here, just so you know. Either we see ourselves as having a duty to help others, or we do not. By and large, America does not seem to think that duty exists, and from what my web search shows there are not many laws that say that it exists.

Bruh we're talkin about 14-16 yr olds. A highly impressionable age group.

2 hrs/

week watching the news vs 20 hrs playing/watching violence

What do u think has a greater effect on them in terms of desensitization?

That assumes that the news is the only outlet where these ideologies manifest

So then where else do u think your average 14-16 yr old learns about single payer health coverage and white supremacist organizations?

Is maybe social studies class making these kids apathetic as well?

From their parents, teachers, uncles, aunts, grandparents, etc who are influenced by ppl like Trump and Romney who like to portray themselves as self made and the poor as the "takers"

Then film, tv, video games, etc reinforce and help perpetuate American individualism or rather this idea that comfort and success result from personal qualities and white supremacy as well

It fosters apathy, a me first attitude, and resentment for certain segments of the society...

Consider the way blk ppl are portrayed in film and tv with negative stereotypes for example

Or the way the needy and or poor are portrayed as the takers or lazy or irresponsible

Its really not hard to see

And evident in the way most mainstream americans respond coldly to incidences of police misconduct when the victim is blk and or poor

Or the fact that most americans don't believe healthcare should be a right

 

[Go figure]

10-20. That's just a guess though. It could be more or it could be less.

The existence of worldstar doesn't mean that there is no contradiction in America's beliefs here, just so you know. Either we see ourselves as having a duty to help others, or we do not. By and large, America does not seem to think that duty exists, and from what my web search shows there are not many laws that say that it exists.

Bruh we're talkin about 14-16 yr olds. A highly impressionable age group.

2 hrs/

week watching the news vs 20 hrs playing/watching violence

What do u think has a greater effect on them in terms of desensitization?

That assumes that the news is the only outlet where these ideologies manifest

So then where else do u think your average 14-16 yr old learns about single payer health coverage and white supremacist organizations?

Is maybe social studies class making these kids apathetic as well?

From their parents, teachers, uncles, aunts, grandparents, etc

And same as you have ppl like Trump and Romney who like to portray themselves as self made and the poor as the "takers"

Film, tv, video games, etc reinforce and help perpetuate American individualism or rather this idea that comfort and success result from personal qualities and white supremacy as well

And i would agree it does foster apathy and resentment for certain segments of the society

Consider the way blk ppl are portrayed in film and tv with negative stereotypes for example

Or the way the needy and or poor are portrayed as the takers or lazy or irresponsible

Its really not hard to see

And evident in the way most mainstream americans respond coldly to incidences of police misconduct when the victim is blk and or poor

Or the fact that most americans don't believe healthcare should be a right

So with all that said...do u think this is the fault of a single political party?

Also consider trump's approval rating is the lowest for any president in america's history if we are going to draw those parallels

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

10-20. That's just a guess though. It could be more or it could be less.

The existence of worldstar doesn't mean that there is no contradiction in America's beliefs here, just so you know. Either we see ourselves as having a duty to help others, or we do not. By and large, America does not seem to think that duty exists, and from what my web search shows there are not many laws that say that it exists.

Bruh we're talkin about 14-16 yr olds. A highly impressionable age group.

2 hrs/

week watching the news vs 20 hrs playing/watching violence

What do u think has a greater effect on them in terms of desensitization?

That assumes that the news is the only outlet where these ideologies manifest

So then where else do u think your average 14-16 yr old learns about single payer health coverage and white supremacist organizations?

Is maybe social studies class making these kids apathetic as well?

I don't get how you don't understand the basic concept of duty. America, by and large, doesn't see helping others as something people are obligated to do; these kids did not have a duty to do shit. If the law says they do have a duty to risk their well being for other people, then we have that duty in other scenarios. In other scenarios we do not, so we do not have a duty here.

Im not arguing whether they have a duty or not. I dont think they do either. We never disagreed there. What they did was distasteful but not criminal.

My argument is the teens actions have nothing to do with the politics that u brought into the thread. Them being scumbags and laughing at a dying person in imminent danger has nothing to with whos holding office.

It does when the person currently in office makes fun of handicapped people and robs millions of life-saving health care. We cannot be both in favour of this kind of behaviour and against it: we need to pick a side and be consistent. If we are bothered by what happened in this story, which you seem to be, then the right-wing criticism I made here is fitting.

So if this had happened before the election where would u place the blame?

This effort to demonize and mock the poor, ppl considered "other" or "different" existed way before trump entered politics

 

[LUClEN]

10-20. That's just a guess though. It could be more or it could be less.

The existence of worldstar doesn't mean that there is no contradiction in America's beliefs here, just so you know. Either we see ourselves as having a duty to help others, or we do not. By and large, America does not seem to think that duty exists, and from what my web search shows there are not many laws that say that it exists.

Bruh we're talkin about 14-16 yr olds. A highly impressionable age group.

2 hrs/

week watching the news vs 20 hrs playing/watching violence

What do u think has a greater effect on them in terms of desensitization?

That assumes that the news is the only outlet where these ideologies manifest

So then where else do u think your average 14-16 yr old learns about single payer health coverage and white supremacist organizations?

Is maybe social studies class making these kids apathetic as well?

From their parents, teachers, uncles, aunts, grandparents, etc

And same as you have ppl like Trump and Romney who like to portray themselves as self made and the poor as the "takers"

Film, tv, video games, etc reinforce and help perpetuate American individualism or rather this idea that comfort and success result from personal qualities and white supremacy as well

And i would agree it does foster apathy and resentment for certain segments of the society

Consider the way blk ppl are portrayed in film and tv with negative stereotypes for example

Or the way the needy and or poor are portrayed as the takers or lazy or irresponsible

Its really not hard to see

And evident in the way most mainstream americans respond coldly to incidences of police misconduct when the victim is blk and or poor

Or the fact that most americans don't believe healthcare should be a right

So with all that said...do u think this is the fault of a single political party?

Also consider trump's approval rating is the lowest for any president in america's history if we are going to draw those parallels

I never blamed a political party, I blamed a specific kind of thinking. It's more than just libertarians and Republicans.

 

[Go figure]

10-20. That's just a guess though. It could be more or it could be less.

The existence of worldstar doesn't mean that there is no contradiction in America's beliefs here, just so you know. Either we see ourselves as having a duty to help others, or we do not. By and large, America does not seem to think that duty exists, and from what my web search shows there are not many laws that say that it exists.

Bruh we're talkin about 14-16 yr olds. A highly impressionable age group.

2 hrs/

week watching the news vs 20 hrs playing/watching violence

What do u think has a greater effect on them in terms of desensitization?

That assumes that the news is the only outlet where these ideologies manifest

So then where else do u think your average 14-16 yr old learns about single payer health coverage and white supremacist organizations?

Is maybe social studies class making these kids apathetic as well?

From their parents, teachers, uncles, aunts, grandparents, etc

And same as you have ppl like Trump and Romney who like to portray themselves as self made and the poor as the "takers"

Film, tv, video games, etc reinforce and help perpetuate American individualism or rather this idea that comfort and success result from personal qualities and white supremacy as well

And i would agree it does foster apathy and resentment for certain segments of the society

Consider the way blk ppl are portrayed in film and tv with negative stereotypes for example

Or the way the needy and or poor are portrayed as the takers or lazy or irresponsible

Its really not hard to see

And evident in the way most mainstream americans respond coldly to incidences of police misconduct when the victim is blk and or poor

Or the fact that most americans don't believe healthcare should be a right

So with all that said...do u think this is the fault of a single political party?

Also consider trump's approval rating is the lowest for any president in america's history if we are going to draw those parallels

I never blamed a political party, I blamed a specific kind of thinking. It's more than just libertarians and Republicans.

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I blame the political right for this

 

[LUClEN]

There is no party called the right party. Right is a term that refers to conservative, individualist politics. There are many different parties that fit that bill.

 

[Lefty_]

I ask myself "How is this even a conversation?" On the IC more than anywhere else in my life.

 

[Madame_CJSkywalker]

10-20. That's just a guess though. It could be more or it could be less.

The existence of worldstar doesn't mean that there is no contradiction in America's beliefs here, just so you know. Either we see ourselves as having a duty to help others, or we do not. By and large, America does not seem to think that duty exists, and from what my web search shows there are not many laws that say that it exists.

Bruh we're talkin about 14-16 yr olds. A highly impressionable age group.

2 hrs/

week watching the news vs 20 hrs playing/watching violence

What do u think has a greater effect on them in terms of desensitization?

That assumes that the news is the only outlet where these ideologies manifest

So then where else do u think your average 14-16 yr old learns about single payer health coverage and white supremacist organizations?

Is maybe social studies class making these kids apathetic as well?

From their parents, teachers, uncles, aunts, grandparents, etc

And same as you have ppl like Trump and Romney who like to portray themselves as self made and the poor as the "takers"

Film, tv, video games, etc reinforce and help perpetuate American individualism or rather this idea that comfort and success result from personal qualities and white supremacy as well

And i would agree it does foster apathy and resentment for certain segments of the society

Consider the way blk ppl are portrayed in film and tv with negative stereotypes for example

Or the way the needy and or poor are portrayed as the takers or lazy or irresponsible

Its really not hard to see

And evident in the way most mainstream americans respond coldly to incidences of police misconduct when the victim is blk and or poor

Or the fact that most americans don't believe healthcare should be a right

So with all that said...do u think this is the fault of a single political party?

Also consider trump's approval rating is the lowest for any president in america's history if we are going to draw those parallels

What happened with the man is an extreme case

And no one party, movie, game is responsible

Its a combination of things

But the Right does a lot to push certain narratives and ideas that foster apathy

 

[Fosheezy]

Since when do people have a duty to help others?

When they become Christian. But it's still understood to be voluntary.