usmarin3;3546509 said:
I measure artist by their standards, i'm not gonna grade them and curve the grade based on what everyone else is putting out. Em is a better mc than Ye, but Ye is a better artist than Em imo so that trash argument is null and void. When i check for a Kanye album i'm not checking for crazy flows and lyricism like i would for a Eminem album, just like when i listen to a Em album i'm not listening for superb production, musical experimentation, and for him to stretch the genre.
I never said Recovery was wack, i said it was Pop. Last time i check hiphop wasn't pop, because if it was Hammer, Nelly,etc and all those big selling rappers albums would be considered classic.
BP3 is no worsre than Recovery was, you don't see any objective Jay-z fan calling it a classic like you dick riding fans do Em's music.
Look how you contradicted yourself though you say you not checking for Musical experimenting from Eminem but when he does it with Recovery you hate and the type of jealouds hating is pathetic
What exactly is so Pop about Not Afraid and Love The Way You Lie compared to most Singles are they not real life Songs with Eminem speaking on real shit people go through?
How can you say Eminem has never experimented and Musically not stretched the genre when he made every type of track from Mockingbird a heartfelt track with Emotion to Soldier a passionate raw hardcore track to The Way I Am a Personal Lyrical monster to We As Americans a Politically raw Song
He experimented as far as Melody Singing on Hooks on almost 90% of his Hooks he Sings, experimented and Produced different type of Beats from Till I Collapse to Superman to Smack That to Lose Yourself, experimented with different topics from his Personal topics about his struggles, to political topics to comedy topics
It truely comes across like you never ever heard an Eminem Album and are just blinded by some type of bitter hate you better than this too Usmarin
When you call Eminem a varicture that means objectivley you are a hater and speak on nonsense even the biggest Eminem hater can not deny the amount of shit he been through in his life it's not hard to figure he was broke, was working on minimum wage, was living in a welfare home, grew up with out a father in a single parent home, had a daughter to provide for etc if Eminem was lying about anything he would have got exposed a long time ago it has been verrified by countle3ss people he worked a job cleaning dishes and that his mother was on welfare if this wasn't true it can easily be proved
So you never been honest and real it just seems like you hate the fact Eminem's Music is loved by so many compared to an Artist you love
It's not dickriding if the Music Eminem made wasn't so classic great Albums like The SSLP, The MMLP, The Eminem Show, Recovery etc we wouldn't be praising it but we praising it as far as me personally based on how enjoyable how it helps me get through times times and most importantly listening to those Albums almost daily with out skipping a track that's simply why i call them classics
It can't be a coincidence people in the millions around the globe feel the exact same way so for you to even talk about being objective is disgusting
Blueprint 3 gets called wack simply cos it is a wack Album no Content or Substance not good Lyrically, not good Production wise that is the simple reasons
You had a problem from dey 1 with Eminem when you saw that Video of a fran being interviwed at the Jay and Eminem concert and the female said the reason so many people love Eminem's Music is cos he speaks on everyday struggles the average person goes through while others don't what you failed to realize was she could worded it better we know there are other Artists who speak on real life shit like Eminem we know there is Talib Kweli, Mos Def etc but what she meant was Eminem is a rare exception as far as he speaks on the most common type problems anyone can relate to like poverty, having no father, being a parent, relationship troubles, addictions etc no other Rap Artist is as Personal and honest as Eminem and as vivid about particular struggles
She didn't have time to explain what she meant in depth she gave a general explination as to why Em fans love his Music and you took it badly which just makes you seem kinda lame
You talk about being objective yet Kanye West has used Co Producers his entire career as do so many other Producers but you have an issue with Eminem doing the same 'his Co Producer did it Em didn't do it blah blah' but it's a different story for your fave Producer
No Producer has ever called out Em on stealing credit or taking credit for a track he didn't do much on in his entire career so your so called objectivness is a joke telling other people to be objective but can't be that yourself
The funny thing is go look at what Jay Z said aboyt The MMLP & The Eminem Show being classics and Eminem being in his top 5 G.O.A.T. and how Kanye said Eminem is a great Producer and admitted to trying to steal his drums
But that won't matter it all comes down to jealousy with you even thought your fave Rappers said these things about Em straight outta their mouth
