Steve Stoute goes in on the Grammy's and their voting methods, takes out a full ad!

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Just so that I’m not showing partiality to hip-hop artists (although it would be an entirely different letter as to how hip-hop music has been totally diminished as an art form by this organization), how is it that Justin Bieber, an artist that defines what it means to be a modern artist, did not win Best New Artist? Again, his cultural impact and success are even more quantifiable if you factor in his YouTube and Vevo viewership — the fact that he was a talent born entirely of the digital age whose story was crafted in the most humble method of being “discovered” purely for his singing ability (and it should be noted that Justin Bieber plays piano and guitar, as evidenced on his early viral videos).

So while these very artists that the public acknowledges as being worthy of their money and fandom are snubbed year after year at the Grammys, the awards show has absolutely no qualms in inviting these same artists to perform. At first I thought that you were not paying attention to the fact that the mental complexion of the world is becoming tanned, that multiculturalism and poly-ethnicity are driving new meaning as to what is culturally relevant. Interesting that the Grammys understands cultural relevance when it comes to using Eminem’s, Kanye West’s or Justin Bieber’s name in the billing to ensure viewership and to deliver the all-too-important ratings for its advertisers.

What truly inspired the writing of this letter was that this most recent show fed my suspicions. As the show was coming to a close and just prior to presenting the award for Album Of The Year, the band Arcade Fire performed “Month of May” — only to… surprise… win the category and, in a moment of sheer coincidence, happened to be prepared to perform “Ready to Start.”

Does the Grammys intentionally use artists for their celebrity, popularity and cultural appeal when they already know the winners and then program a show against this expectation? Meanwhile the National Academy of Recording Arts and Sciences hides behind the “peer” voting system to escape culpability for not even rethinking its approach.

And I imagine that next year there will be another televised super-close-up of an astonished front-runner as they come to the realization before a national audience… that he or she was used.

You are being called to task at this very moment, NARAS.

And to all of the artists that attend the Grammys: Stop accepting the invitation to be the upset of the year and demand that this body upholds its mission for advocacy and support of artistry as culture evolves.

Demand that they change this system and truly reflect and truly acknowledge your art.

Steve Stoute
 
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Spalding is a better artist , she plays stand bass and every thing like i don't think Justin Bieber even writes his own shit.
 
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MC The Rapper;2107644 said:
Spalding is a better artist , she plays stand bass and every thing like i don't think Justin Bieber even writes his own shit.

Being a better artist is a subjective term, and plays into the biases of alot of those old geezers of the Grammy's. The Grammy's are out of touch with modern culture, that's why hiphop continuously gets looked over, they gave a country booty call song of the year (I need you now) for god sakes over songs that had way bigger impact (Empire state of mind, love the way it hurts, Nothing on you,etc). I agree with Stoute, they use these modern artist to bring in audience to watch the show but know damn well they are still gonna continue the status quo.
 
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damn good read ... stoute is as mentally sharp as it gets and he hit it on the money ....
 
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usmarin3;2107681 said:
Being a better artist is a subjective term, and plays into the biases of alot of those old geezers of the Grammy's. The Grammy's are out of touch with modern culture, that's why hiphop continuously gets looked over, they gave a country booty call song of the year (I need you now) for god sakes over songs that had way bigger impact (Empire state of mind, love the way it hurts, Nothing on you,etc). I agree with Stoute, they use these modern artist to bring in audience to watch the show but know damn well they are still gonna continue the status quo.

be for real, She compose and write her own songs and plus her music appeals to those old geezers you speak of and they know what it is they know Justin Bieber ain't gone be around
 
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So basically his argument is that sales > everything? Cuz he say that it aint his argument but it obviously is. Shit there's album i think were better than MMLP that dropped in that time period and they weren't even nominated.

2nd, i bet you dude is only cryin' because one of his artist lost in a nomination. That's how these faggot ass dudes workin' in the industry operate. Dude talkin' like he actually cares about this culture. FOH.
 
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illogics;2107776 said:
Niggas in here really defending these dudes on the board of the grammy's?

hell nah fuck them and fuck steve stoute ....

stoute made sense though ... to bad it took one of his clients being snugged for him to speak some real shit ....
 
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sboogie;2107804 said:
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exactly ..
 
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MC The Rapper;2107720 said:
be for real, She compose and write her own songs and plus her music appeals to those old geezers you speak of and they know what it is they know Justin Bieber ain't gone be around

But if thats the argument for y they didnt give the award to Beiber then like Stoute says why did they give it to Steely Dane. I personally dont watch that wack shit. Niggas dont neva win, i dont even understand y HipHop or RnB artist even bother to show up.

Source Awards>>>>>>>Grammys
 
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MC The Rapper;2107720 said:
be for real, She compose and write her own songs and plus her music appeals to those old geezers you speak of and they know what it is they know Justin Bieber ain't gone be around

So does alot of other people, doesn't mean it's good or entertaining music. The award is for best new artist, not artist who plays more instruments because if that was the case Prince would of been more popular than Michael Jackson.
 
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usmarin3;2107826 said:
So does alot of other people, doesn't mean it's good or entertaining music. The award is for best new artist, not artist who plays more instruments because if that was the case Prince would of been more popular than Michael Jackson.

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CirocObama;2107739 said:
So basically his argument is that sales > everything? Cuz he say that it aint his argument but it obviously is. Shit there's album i think were better than MMLP that dropped in that time period and they weren't even nominated.

2nd, i bet you dude is only cryin' because one of his artist lost in a nomination. That's how these faggot ass dudes workin' in the industry operate. Dude talkin' like he actually cares about this culture. FOH.

You're missing the premise my dude, what he is saying is the Grammy's are using the modern popular artist to draw in viewers and get the advertisers money, then pulling the ookie dookie when awarding the award and giving it to the safe and status quo. For instance Nirvana got fucked over for album of the year, when it clearly has the critical appeal and album sale, same for Kanye and Eminem. They use the awards to maintain the status quo, continue to shit on rap, and a lifetime achievement award for older groups and artists (Steely Dan, Herbie Hancock).

One of his artist, Stoute isn't in the music business like that anymore. He is in the corporate world now.
 
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usmarin3;2107853 said:
You're missing the premise my dude, what he is saying is the Grammy's are using the modern popular artist to draw in viewers and get the advertisers money, then pulling the ookie dookie when awarding the award and giving it to the safe and status quo. For instance Nirvana got fucked over for album of the year, when it clearly has the critical appeal and album sale, same for Kanye and Eminem. They use the awards to maintain the status quo, continue to shit on rap, and a lifetime achievement award for older groups and artists (Steely Dan, Herbie Hancock).

One of his artist, Stoute isn't in the music business like that anymore. He is in the corporate world now.

No i got that point shit if you've read my post you know i be saying that shit ALL THE TIME on the IC. That's a obvious one, and it ain't only the Grammy's doin' it.

My point is dude is just a hypocrite and why react just now? This has been goin' on for YEARS why are you reacting right now? Also, this year's show didn't prove his point. Esperanza Spalding is a dope artist (I've been listening to her since i saw her on BET last summer) who barely known yet won "artist of the year" over Drake, Justin Beiber and so on. Which was great, but still muthafuckas had some shit to say about that.
 
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sboogie;2107930 said:
because she not in his camp she don't deserve the recognition...
thats what its all about...
Stoute is as transparent as a bottle of champagne...

That's what i'm sayin' my nigga. FOH with that bs. Nigga been in the industry for years dude coulda BEEN said that shit..now all of a sudden he got a opinion like the Grammy's ain't been like this for years.
 
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I get what he is sayin. They use the star power and popularity of a Eminem or Justin Bieber and even give them a major nomination only to fuck them over for a WTF artist that honestly we not be know in the next five years or a old ass artists. A couple of years ago Chaka Khan dropped a dud of an album (i listened to it!!!) and it won a grammy!!! Like he said how in the fuck did Em lose to steely dan??? They use the popularity of a modern artist for the attraction only and give it to the WTF artists
 
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MC The Rapper;2107644 said:
Spalding is a better artist , she plays stand bass and every thing like i don't think Justin Bieber even writes his own shit.
Pretty much.

Just because a bunch of people like you doesnt mean you deserve the award.

"................so if your message ain't shit, fuck the records you sold
cuz if you go platinum, it's got nothing to do with luck
it just means that a million people are stupid as fuck
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I respect her talent more than Beibers to be honest. And not everybody is just a "hip-hop, pop, R&B" person. A lot of us like all types of genres and I can appreciate her music just like I can appreciate Kanye's. I am not impressed by Beiber's record sales because most of it comes from 14 year old girls...fuck do I care what they think? Why do I care what some Jr. High School bitch thinks? Why should the Academy?

However, I do agree with him on the Eminem shit. He got robbed that year. But when he lost to Norah Jones...that was fair.

Basically if the Hip-Hop and Pop cats start winning the Jazz Musicians and Rockers will start bitching. And we'll be telling them to STFU kind of like whites will read Steve's shit and be like "STFU."
 
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His point is hollow to me. He's basically saying the Highest selling artist should get the awards. One thing I do Like about the grammy's is sometimes, just sometimes, the popular highest selling artist does not win the award. It's the same with the Oscars not giving the award to the Blockbuster but instead the indie film. Steve had nothing to say about these politics all these years and now he has a conscious about the grammy's?, lol. I'm fine with Beiber and Drake losing to ol' girl, that sends a good message that you can make it and don't have sell a gazillion records to win all the awards.

Eminem losing for MMLP is what it is, Radio Head's, "Kid A" was in that same category and many would say that album is better than MMLP and Steely Dan. At the end of the day they are just awards and though it is one of music biggest artistic achievements, I'm not really crying a river for Em or KanYe. Eminem has 13 Grammy's, Kanye has 14 it's not like either of them are hurting for more awards. I would of respected his words more if he talked about the countless other great rappers who don't even have a grammy like one of his own artist NaS. Instead he spends the article talking about Eminem, KanYe and Justin Beiber?, SMH. His words were too focus on sales instead of the art itself. He was basically saying, "Eminem and KanYe sold more than Steely Dan and Herbie Hancock",and "Beiber sold more than ol' girl". LOL.
 
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rapmastermind;2108292 said:
His point is hollow to me. He's basically saying the Highest selling artist should get the awards. One thing I do Like about the grammy's is sometimes, just sometimes, the popular highest selling artist does not win the award. It's the same with the Oscars not giving the award to the Blockbuster but instead the indie film. Steve had nothing to say about these politics all these years and now he has a conscious about the grammy's?, lol. I'm fine with Beiber and Drake losing to ol' girl, that sends a good message that you can make it and don't have sell a gazillion records to win all the awards.

Eminem losing for MMLP is what it is, Radio Head's, "Kid A" was in that same category and many would say that album is better than MMLP and Steely Dan. At the end of the day they are just awards and though it is one of music biggest artistic achievements, I'm not really crying a river for Em or KanYe. Eminem has 13 Grammy's, Kanye has 14 it's not like either of them are hurting for more awards. I would of respected his words more if he talked about the countless other great rappers who don't even have a grammy like one of his own artist NaS. Instead he spends the article talking about Eminem, KanYe and Justin Beiber?, SMH. His words were too focus on sales instead of the art itself. He was basically saying, "Eminem and KanYe sold more than Steely Dan and Herbie Hancock",and "Beiber sold more than ol' girl". LOL.

Nigga you could've just quoted me..you basically repeated what i just said..

mufucka..lol j/p.
 
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