Steve Harvey takes an L (along with most of you people)

[Stack Money]

“It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God” (Matthew 19:24)

So being an atheist is a white thing, now? LOL@ BLK ppl still holding that slavery mentality in 2011.

Bitch nigga posts

 

[Disciplined InSight]

I don't really know what you're arguing about. Atheist comes from atheos. This does not mean we use the word in 2011 the exact same way Greeks used it centuries ago. In fact, you'd have to be an idiot to believe that.

And since you've repeatedly shown yourself to be an idiot in this thread, I think that's the correct conclusion.

Cool unsourced copy/paste job from other forums though, bro.

Lol @ this racist doughboy calling me an idiot..

U mad?

Atheist=Ancient Greek ἄθεος (atheos, “godless, without God”). The definitions have been changed over time, but the true origin of what it means stands whether it's centuries ago or staged, it's still present in the "new" atheist movement, whether you like it or not. Lol @ you sticking with "modern" term of your stance...it doesn't mean shit.

And I posted that source to prove my point because I knew it would piss you off and you wouldn't agree with it.

U still mad?

 

[Stack Money]

Hey, let me go eat some chitin, use bad grammar, drink kool aid, and eat fried chicken to prove my blackness to you. *Leaves*

Bitch nigga post

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[Knives Amilli]

I just want to know what kind of evidence, or what would it take period for a theist, christian or otherwise, to believe that there is no "God"

If im reading your post right, what absolute "proof" (i believe thats the proper word here, no condescension) is there of a "gods" existence?

 

[Elle_Music]

If im reading your post right, what absolute "proof" (i believe thats the proper word here, no condescension) is there of a "gods" existence?

well yea if you want to nitpick...

There already is no proof of God's existence.

I'm just asking what would a person have to be presented with to accept the fact (if it were a fact) that there is no God?

Like, what would it take to convince a person that he doesn't exist...?

What would a person need to see to change their stance?

Same with an Athiest... What evidence, or proof would it take for an Athiest to believe/accept that there is one...?

 

[Go figure...]

well yea if you want to nitpick...
There already is no proof of God's existence.

I'm just asking what would a person have to be presented with to accept the fact (if it were a fact) that there is no God?
Like, what would it take to convince a person that he doesn't exist...?
What would a person need to see to change their stance?

Same with an Athiest... What evidence, or proof would it take for an Athiest to believe/accept that there is one...?

theres no answer to this. people of faith look around at everything and believe it is a creation from God, and that is proof no matter if science has an explanation for it or not.....nonbelievers have an explanation for everything, whether believers agree with it or not.

ppl fall out of belief, ppl come into believing.

 

[Elle_Music]

theres no answer to this. people of faith look around at everything and believe it is a creation from God, and that is proof no matter if science has an explanation for it or not.....nonbelievers have an explanation for everything, whether believers agree with it or not.

ppl fall out of belief, ppl come into believing.

I just want to know, if there was a way to prove without a doubt and with 100% certainty that God doesn't exist and that the whole story/ bible was all made up, would people listen?... or would they continue to believe what they believe just for the hell of it?

 

[Knives Amilli]

well yea if you want to nitpick...
There already is no proof of God's existence.

I'm just asking what would a person have to be presented with to accept the fact (if it were a fact) that there is no God?
Like, what would it take to convince a person that he doesn't exist...?
What would a person need to see to change their stance?

Same with an Athiest... What evidence, or proof would it take for an Athiest to believe/accept that there is one...?

Well what made me lose my faith was just a realization that:

1. I only believed in god because i was raised that way and social pressures.
2. And when i went off to college, the evidence that god didn't exist became way more apparent. Ive always been naturally skeptical, but admittedly was to influenced to try and look for logical answers to my questions about theology. Or I was too ignorant to postulate a question whose answer would satisfy my curiosity.

College (or really just leaving your folks house) is often time when most people renounce their faith because you no longer have parental influence/pressure to believe.

But that's really just how i came to be an atheist. With some people, tragedy is a huge motivator (if a god exists, why'd he allow this? which despite what xtians may say is a very good question). Or disillusionment with the church. It really varies from person to person.

Really, I equate losing faith as "waking up from the Matrix". The clues that shit isn't what it seems, that your being lied to and used are there, its just a matter of realizing it and choosing to face reality.

And as for what would it take for me to think a diety exists? Good question, because pretty much any impossible thing that could be done, I might just attribute it to "impossible shit being done" rather than saying "holy crap...A GOD EXISTS!!".

Calling something a god is a tall order because your saying that this being is worthy of worship and devotion. And really even if a being did create me and all of creation, does that entitle it to devotion, especially considering no one asked to be created?

 

[Shuffington]

I just want to know, if there was a way to prove without a doubt and with 100% certainty that God doesn't exist and that the whole story/ bible was all made up, would people listen?... or would they continue to believe what they believe just for the hell of it?

How do you prove that an entity that has NEVER ever been proven to legitimately exist outside of personal hallucinations, chance scenarios and a rewritten book .... does in fact... not exist??? :-/ Its fallacious.
What type of god are we talking about exactly? What type of test/ experiment do you create? and how do you measure the results? We all know that the prayer experiment doesnt work. What next?

 

[Knives Amilli]

How do you prove that an entity that has NEVER ever been proven to legitimately exist ou tside of personal hallucinations, chance scenarios and coincidence .... does in fact... not exist??? :-/ Its fallacious.
What type of god are we talking about exactly? What type of test/ experiment do you create? and how do you measure the results? We all know that the prayer experiment doesnt work. What next?

Yea there's almost nothing you could do to deaden people's faith. They have to cross that bridge themselves.

If there was something you could do, people would call you a liar or say its a conspiracy.

Like even if you could kill everyone on Earth for 30 seconds (or really just the safest amount of time you can be dead), just so they could realize there's no afterlife..people would prolly think they were never dead in the first place or they had a death induced hallucination..or attribute the feeling of peace that dying brings to ascending to heaven....or..well you get the idea.

 

[Shuffington]

Yea there's almost nothing you could do to deaden people's faith. They have to cross that bridge themselves.

If there was something you could do, people would call you a liar or say its a conspiracy.

Right. And lets just say.... ok... something crazy wild was to happen that was very unexplainable. Something that really seemed like "proof". Ok How do you know its a sign from "god"? What if its some other shyt..lol?

Right now. People only have one answer for things they dont understand and that answer is "god". We have been conditioned to believe and fill in the blanks with "god".

At one point I use to be comfortable with that answer cause that answer was more like a unconscious default response that I never took the time to analyze. But now.... not so much

 

[Elle_Music]

Right. And lets just say.... ok... something crazy wild was to happen that was very unexplainable. Something that really seemed like "proof". Ok How do you know its a sign from "god"? What if its some other shyt..lol?

Right now. People only have one answer for things they dont understand and that answer is "god". We have been conditioned to believe and fill in the blanks with "god".

At one point I use to be comfortable with that answer cause that answer was more like a unconscious default response that I never took the time to analyze. But now.... not so much

Do you ever fear that you are wrong?

same to you Knives....

 

[Knives Amilli]

Do you ever fear that you are wrong?

same to you Knives....

Nah..Im pretty certain that im right. When I was in my agnostic phase, I figured even if there was some kind of diety that judged you on earthly "behavior" it surely couldn't be as petty as the god of Abrahamic derived faiths.

 

[Elle_Music]

Having brain and doing critical thinking will take an theist to an atheist.

only if they want to though... many are too afraid to think like that just because of what they've been taught and how they were brought up.

The thought of hell scares them, even though they know they aren't repenting for their sins and will end up there anyway...

 

[Shuffington]

Do you ever fear that you are wrong?

same to you Knives....

if Im wrong Im wrong. theres nothing to be afraid of.

 

[Huruma]

Atheist comes from the Greek "atheos" which means an evil person.

Just another example of religious intolerance and bigotry toward people with other points of view.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=theist

A-theism is just the absence of 'theism'. 'Theos' is Greek for 'God', as far as I know, it has nothing to do with evil people.

Both a-theists and theists are capable of bigotry and discrimination, neither is necessarily any more or less ethical than the other (although consistent Muslims, Jews and Christians who did not compartmentalize or arbitrarily choose which teachings to disregard or follow would necessarily be unethical in at least some scenarios).

 

[KTULU IS BACK]

And I posted that source to prove my point because I knew it would piss you off and you wouldn't agree with it.

1. You didn't post the source. You just copy/pasted without mentioning where you got material from.

2. I'm pretty sure I do agree with you about the origin of the word and I don't really know what you're arguing at me about.

Anyway, 7x platinum and no Forum of Fame?

Bruh...

 

[Go figure...]

1. You didn't post the source. You just copy/pasted without mentioning where you got material from.

2. I'm pretty sure I do agree with you about the origin of the word and I don't really know what you're arguing at me about.

Anyway, 7x platinum and no Forum of Fame?

Bruh...

hey hey hold up my nig i believe sum christians helped u with that 7x platinum ishhh

 

[fuc_i_look_like]

I just want to know, if there was a way to prove without a doubt and with 100% certainty that God doesn't exist and that the whole story/ bible was all made up, would people listen?... or would they continue to believe what they believe just for the hell of it?

this is a really good question. I'm thinking bout' posting this as a FB status just to start some shit..lol

 

[Stack Money]

Thank you, I really don't you seriously for someone to have MC Guru in your top 10. One of the most boring rappers to have ever lived.

Dumbest post in this thread

Well what made me lose my faith was just a realization that:

1. I only believed in god because i was raised that way and social pressures.

2. And when i went off to college, the evidence that god didn't exist became way more apparent. Ive always been naturally skeptical, but admittedly was to influenced to try and look for logical answers to my questions about theology. Or I was too ignorant to postulate a question whose answer would satisfy my curiosity.

And now you have social pressures to be atheist, you went to college and quit believin in God cause it was the cool thing to do.

College (or really just leaving your folks house) is often time when most people renounce their faith because you no longer have parental influence/pressure to believe.

College is often a time when most people become atheist cause all they friends are doin it and bein religious is viewed as corny.

Yea there's almost nothing you could do to deaden people's faith. They have to cross that bridge themselves.

If there was something you could do, people would call you a liar or say its a conspiracy.

Same for atheists, you can't convince them there's a God they gotta go thru somethin that makes them believe in it, and if they saw proof they'd say it was a coincidence.

Like even if you could kill everyone on Earth for 30 seconds (or really just the safest amount of time you can be dead), just so they could realize there's no afterlife..people would prolly think they were never dead in the first place or they had a death induced hallucination..or attribute the feeling of peace that dying brings to ascending to heaven....or..well you get the idea.

That makes no sense, you can't hallucinate "nothin" cause you not experiencin anythin. That example would apply better to yall atheists, if yall died and saw an afterlife you'd just say you were hallucinatin.

Right. And lets just say.... ok... something crazy wild was to happen that was very unexplainable. Something that really seemed like "proof". Ok How do you know its a sign from "god"? What if its some other shyt..lol?

Right now. People only have one answer for things they dont understand and that answer is "god". We have been conditioned to believe and fill in the blanks with "god".

At one point I use to be comfortable with that answer cause that answer was more like a unconscious default response that I never took the time to analyze. But now.... not so much

What if the unexplainable wasn't some other shit and was proof? Muhfuckas like you would just ignore it and write it off as simply unexplainable instead of realizin it was proof, shit like that is why most of yall would never believe even if proof was right in your face cause yall too stupid.

Nah..Im pretty certain that im right.

Having brain and doing critical thinking will take an theist to an atheist.

This kinda arrogance is why atheists are idiots, at least religious people admitt they don't know for sure what's what but atheists be statin they beliefs as facts.

only if they want to though... many are too afraid to think like that just because of what they've been taught and how they were brought up.

The thought of hell scares them, even though they know they aren't repenting for their sins and will end up there anyway...

Nah most think if they just believe in God they won't end up there, and many of yall are just too stuck up to think you may be wrong.

That's the reason why I was a christian because I did not want to go to hell. Now, I know it doesn't exist and I'm free from the cult's mindframe.

You don't know shit

if Im wrong Im wrong. theres nothing to be afraid of.

There's ALOT to be afraid of if you wrong, you gon hafta spend eternity in hell if your assumptions turn out to be incorrect.