Steve Harvey takes an L (along with most of you people)

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Go figure...;2076144 said:
bruh all im sayin is we didnt come from no damn apes. we came from adam and eve. thats my belief. didnt bother to look at the links at the moment.....will eventually just for the hell of it, but as far as evolution...im ONLY arguing that we didnt start off as apes and evolve into the humans we are today. no link u give me will make me believe that.

yes i hear what your saying but why are you saying that?yes we didnt come from apes we share a common ancestor.what evidence do you otherwise oh the bible lol.how are you arguing with no proof or evidence at all?whats so bad about evolving from apes anyway?why are you so shook to come from an ape if that was

the way it is.
 
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Go figure...;2075545 said:
@ the bold...monkeys, chimps, apes.....seriously wtf does it matter what i call it if u know what im gettin at?

Cars, wagons, skateboards. WTF does it matter what you pushing if you arrive at the dance?

i already see how u tryna argue this shit out, like a child...or even a republican.

Republicans generally want creationism taught in schools. I certainly don't.

1. ok so evolution just goes.......where? hasnt gone up or down, left or right if u ask me. so i guess evolution works when it wants to, when it decides it wants to change our species, like some unexplainable, unseen force....hmmm sound like how believers view God

Evolution works every time organisms reproduce. Consider the example of your own life. You get your father's DNA and your mother's DNA. But the copy is not perfect, so there are some subtle new features that make you unique. Sometimes the DNA has errors that result in serious problems. Birth defects, mental retardation, etc. It's horrible to think that a God would design such a system.

u sayin that shit about detectives puttin together a murder to solve the crime with evidence n logic right? ok, whats the success rate solving murder cases? all that evidence n logic, put in front of a judge, jury n havin ppl testify (which means more minds putting their logic together)....that rate is not 100%...dont know what it is exactly but its enough for ppl to argue the death penalty should be outlawed wherever it isnt....dude was PROVEN with that logic to be a murderer then they find out he didnt even do da shit n dey had it all twisted up. HUMAN ERROR. therefore, u cant believe ur logic 100%, u just stand by it.

I never claimed I had ABSOLUTE faith in the results of scientific investigations. You are projecting your religious behavior onto other people.

The success rate we have in predicting how stellar phenomena (and smaller stuff) will behave has gotten extremely high, however. At the quantum level, we're making predictions that are accurate at more than 99.9%.

This means simply that science works and is getting better all the time.

which is exactly what i do with my beliefs. im not tryna convert or convince nobody.....what im tryna tell u is yall ramble on about logic, evidence n bein able to prove shit...yet science changes all da time n dey find out what they believed then isnt true now.....at least my book dont change

Science changes whenever new information forces it to.

This is a good thing.

Your religion resists change because it is built on myth, superstition, and ignorance. But it gets FORCED to change all the time. You people don't still believe that the sun orbits the Earth, do you? You resisted that, but you had to give in because of the mounting evidence against your belief.

Religion always ends up adjusting and saying "well, that part of scripture was a metaphor I guess." Science has NEVER ONCE been proven wrong in any way by religion.
 
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Go figure...;2076144 said:
bruh all im sayin is we didnt come from no damn apes. we came from adam and eve. thats my belief. didnt bother to look at the links at the moment.....will eventually just for the hell of it, but as far as evolution...im ONLY arguing that we didnt start off as apes and evolve into the humans we are today. no link u give me will make me believe that.

This is the big problem.

You are WILLFULLY IGNORANT.

You just admitted that no matter what, you will not change your mind.

And you've been taught that this is a virtue.

I pity you.
 
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i dont believe there is a god waitin for us and shit when we die. I do however believe that God was just original thought
 
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KTULU IS BACK;2076491 said:
This is the big problem.

You are WILLFULLY IGNORANT.

You just admitted that no matter what, you will not change your mind.

And you've been taught that this is a virtue.

I pity you.

i agree with tulu.. why wud anyone WANT to believe in something they know has a chance in being wrong
 
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im_lux;2075659 said:
I hate when people say this. Maybe God isn't exactly a "magical man in the sky" maybe God is really just an idea or what not for a series of events that made all of this possible. Or maybe God is just pure creation. But point blank period you couldn't be that much of an idiot to say all of that there isn't a such thing as a Creator. I'm not exactly sure what to believe in all honesty however there's also the fact that if you're a religious person every religion has it's higher power that created us. But if you believe in a Creator and that everything had to be created by that Creator you must also understand that in order for that to happen the Creator itself had to be created and or the series of events that created this had to be created also...Basically it would never end so shut the fuck up with these arguments with absolutely no right or wrong answer.

Cool, I'll pass your wisdom along to the thousands of years worth of philosophers who have been contemplating this question.
 
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FieldTripsToTheHood;2076503 said:
and the sonning continues.....

He's not sonning anyone...he just enforcing his religious atheistic views..

Yet he still hasn't realized that it also takes faith to be an atheist.
 
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Disciplined InSight;2076541 said:
He's not sonning anyone...he just enforcing his religious atheistic views..

Yet he still hasn't realized that it also takes faith to be an atheist.

Breh...he's been supporting his argument this whole time...the only thing anyone has done is say he's wrong without backing up anything.

Real talk....if you can't see the sonning taking place in here your as ignorant as these clowns "trying" to defend religion.

edit............even Fiat's little picture quotes sonned everyone.
 
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Disciplined InSight;2076541 said:
He's not sonning anyone...
Everybody seems to disagree with you.

Yet he still hasn't realized that it also takes faith to be an atheist.
That's a tired old trope that youth pastors be telling kids.

Atheism is the lack of faith in a deity.

But I do have faith in humanity. I think we'll continue to survive and thrive.
 
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KTULU IS BACK;2076571 said:
Everybody seems to disagree with you.

That's a tired old trope that youth pastors be telling kids.

Atheism is the lack of faith in a deity.

But I do have faith in humanity. I think we'll continue to survive and thrive.

When you said "faith in humanity"..just replace the word "humanity" with "science". Let it be brief.

Yes..you have belief that there is no God/Creator.

Even Richard Dawkins agrees.

"Being an atheist takes as much faith as being a theist", or the less aggressive version: "Atheism is a belief too", which sometimes dwindles down to: "Atheism is not lack of belief in God, it is the belief that God doesn't exist."

...well?
 
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Not collecting stamps is a hobby then, apparently.

Not playing baseball is a sport.

And feel free to post the source of your quotemined quote so we can examine the context.
 
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Nevermind, I already found the source.

http://richarddawkins.net/articles/1786

Thanks to johntfiorito and Martini for the suggestion.

Another common method of trying to use religion against the non-religious. "Being an atheist takes as much faith as being a theist", or the less aggressive version: "Atheism is a belief too", which sometimes dwindles down to: "Atheism is not lack of belief in God, it is the belief that God doesn't exist."

Use the comment space below to present your rebuttal. Let's try and be clear and concise, as if this were to be used in a debate.

The statement you attributed to Dawkins actually comes from "johntfiorito and Martini" and is a proposal for a practice debate on the Dawkins official forum.

Dawkins isn't making or endorsing the statement at all.

Good job.
 
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KTULU IS BACK;2076672 said:
Nevermind, I already found the source.

http://richarddawkins.net/articles/1786

The statement you attributed to Dawkins actually comes from "johntfiorito and Martini" and is a proposal for a practice debate on the Dawkins official forum.

Dawkins isn't making or endorsing the statement at all.

Good job.

Yeah, I saw that. I moved to quick on that. But the stance still remains. You're a man of great faith to believe there's no God/Creator.
 
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