Steve Harvey takes an L (along with most of you people)

[Sovo_Nah]

In my opinion, that i know doesnt matter, i think religion was used as a way to explain the world and why things were why. Then the smart people were born and began talking science and logic as well as reason. But religion was a cash cow. it was money in that bullshit as well as ways to control entire populations for centuries. Why give all that up?

The same thing that is controlling you today. Having you call another man your "pastor," which means he controls the sheep. you cant be a person, you gotta be a sheep. and you take it. cuz u wuz raised lik dat. (google "the great awakening" and you will know why you get preached to like you aint nothing but a demon/animal")(Black people, google the 2nd GREAT AWAKENING LOL)

Say what you want about the love of God but He still allows little babies to be raped in the butt.

"Oh, but the devil does that."

"But if your God was stronger, wouldnt he fight him on that? i mean, u love babies and you love God. you have morals and religion as well as the sensibility to know right and wrong. Doth He who is called I Am?

Dont get me wrong. I love God. Why? because he keeps you fools and idiots in check. Just picture a world where the idiots thought that they could do whatever they damn well pleased because aint no such thing as hell. If we think the world is crazy now, times that by 1000. So i love God. God is good. God keeps me and mine safe. And its a blessing.

"Let a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me. Because i live, ye shall live also."
-jesus-

(take that ktulu.)

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[BigMeatball]

I feel bad for you because you probably had a very shitty education down there in Nawlens and you honestly just haven't been taught these basic things about science.

Do you have any libraries down there or did they all get washed away?

Yes, all of the libraries are somewhere in the Gulf of Mexico. So, please bless me with your superior acuity and explain. You believe in something you read, but can't prove......... so do I. We just read different books.

 

[KTULU IS BACK]

Yes, all of the libraries are somewhere in the Gulf of Mexico. So, please bless me with your superior acuity and please explain. You believe in something you read, but can't prove......... so do I. We just read different books.

Difference is, the ideas in my books are backed up by evidence collected from the real world and you can verify this yourself by examining the source material.

You can buy a cheap telescope for probably $40 and look up into the night sky and see that space really is there.

Your book is about magic and other shit that you "just have to believe."

Beliefs based in evidence and logic are superior to beliefs based in superstition, tradition, fear, etc.

 

[fiat_money]

@ktulu You choose to believe a scientist. Cool. I'm not arrogant enough to think that if I can't understand it, then it must not be possible. Since you can prove how things came to be, prove it. YOU prove it, don't tell me what another man said. If you do, then you're just as stupid as the christians that believe what they can't prove. One question. Explain space. Outer space. Tell me how can outer space be possible. Explain how can there be a big open space that goes on forever, but there's no God. Where does gravity come from? When did it start and what happened before that? There is always one more question that can't be answered.

A great example of phase #2:

 

[Sovo_Nah]

Difference is, the ideas in my books are backed up by evidence collected from the real world and you can verify this yourself by examining the source material.

You can buy a cheap telescope for probably $40 and look up into the night sky and see that space really is there.

Your book is about magic and other shit that you "just have to believe."

Beliefs based in evidence and logic are superior to beliefs based in superstition, tradition, fear, etc.

When you have facts, you don't need faith.

 

[Disciplined InSight]

Who was the first foreign power the Nazis signed a treaty with? The Vatican.

What was stamped on the belt buckle of every SS soldier? "GOT MITT UNS" (God is with us)

Which religion did Hitler constantly refer to as the backbone of Germany? Christianity.

I guess you haven't heard of Hitler's Secret Coversations?

All smokescreens, b...This is what Hitler really thought:

"National Socialism and religion cannot exist together.... The heaviest blow that ever struck humanity was the coming of Christianity. Bolshevism is Christianity's illegitimate child. Both are inventions of the Jew. The deliberate lie in the matter of religion was introduced into the world by Christianity.... Let it not be said that Christianity brought man the life of the soul, for that evolution was in the natural order of things."

"Christianity is a rebellion against natural law, a protest against nature. Taken to its logical extreme, Christianity would mean the systematic cultivation of the human failure."


"The best thing is to let Christianity die a natural death.... When understanding of the universe has become widespread... Christian doctrine will be convicted of absurdity.... Christianity has reached the peak of absurdity.... And that's why someday its structure will collapse.... ...the only way to get rid of Christianity is to allow it to die little by little.... Christianity the liar.... We'll see to it that the Churches cannot spread abroad teachings in conflict with the interests of the State."

..................................................doesn't sound "Christian" to me.

Plus, the SS were particularly anti-Christian. Officers and men were encouraged to leave the Church, although those that refused to renounce their Christian faith were not visibly punished, perhaps because their otherwise faithful adherence to SS codes of behaviour gave the lie to any claim of true Christian affiliation.

 

[BigMeatball]

You can buy a cheap telescope for probably $40 and look up into the night sky and see that space really is there.

Beliefs based in evidence and logic are superior to beliefs based in superstition, tradition, fear, etc.

My point exactly. Space is actually what confirmed God's existence to me. When I look up and see "Nothing", it makes me think. You reply to me, yet have not told me how "Nothing" with some big balls of gas and rocks thrown in is possible. Scientists believe that everything has an explanation, but cannot explain infinity. You still have yet to tell me how that is possible. Forget all that. What was the first thing to ever happen? Period. Not on earth, just ever?

 

[KTULU IS BACK]

I guess you haven't heard of Hitler's Secret Coversations?

I guess you haven't heard this about that book:

"Beware, this is a discredited source, and at the very best, its disputed, and no serious historian relies on this information. After WW2, there was much embarassment over Hitler being a Christian and supported by the Christians and the Catholic and Protestant Churches. Lo and behold, we have this book, of "secret" conversations, which is where we get all the these anti-Christian quotes. Its usually published as "Hitler's Table Talk", and is an exclusively hearsay compilation of "private" conversations in which Hitler was supposedly warned beforehand that everything he said would be recorded for posterity, yet he lowered his guard and supposedly revealed his true feelings anyway. Naturally, these feelings contrast violently with other public and private speeches or conversations, and mysteriously enough, no original documents or recordings can be found (see the excellent discussion of this
book at [...]). Another over-used source is Hermann Rauschning's "The Voice of Destruction: Hitler Speaks", which was already so heavily quoted by 1945 that it was explicitly mentioned and dismissed in OSS documents because of its unreliable nature. In fact, May 1983, Swiss historian Wolfgang Haenel formally gathered together all of the criticisms of Rauschning's book and resoundingly debunked it at a presentation at the annual conference of the Ingolstadt Contemporary History Research Center, showing (among other things) that Hitler was not physically present at the times and places indicated, and that the financially desperate Rauschning was paid a staggering sum of money to produce the book by French and American sources who wished to use it as propaganda. "

and:

"Those who deny Hitler as a Christian will invariably find the recorded table talk conversations of Hitler from 1941 to 1944 as incontrovertible evidence that he could not have been a Christian. The source usually comes from the English translation (from a French translation) edition by Norman Cameron and R. H. Stevens, with an introduction by H.R. Trevor-Roper.

The table-talk has Hitler saying such things such as: "I shall never come to terms with the Christian lie. . .", "Our epoch will certainly see the end of the disease of Christianity".

The problem with these anti-Christian quotes is that the German text of the table-talk does not include them, they were made up by François Genoud, the translator of the French version, the very version that English translations rely on!"

http://www.amazon.com/Hitlers-Secret-Conversations-1941-1944-Hitler/dp/B000CBOR6K
http://www.nobeliefs.com/HitlerSources.htm
http://ffrf.org/legacy/fttoday/2002/nov02/carrier.php

 

[BigMeatball]

One more thing. I actually believe what some scientists say. When they explain how the earth was formed, I believe it. Science does NOT prove there is no God. Just like the existence of God does not discredit science. It just explains how he did it.

 

[ocelot]

One more thing. I actually believe what some scientists say. When they explain how the earth was formed, I believe it. Science does NOT prove there is no God. Just like the existence of God does not discredit science. It just explains how he did it.

so Adam came from dirt and Eve was a rib?

 

[KTULU IS BACK]

Space is actually what confirmed God's existence to me. When I look up and see "Nothing", it makes me think.

So you see nothing... and you assume that A MAGICAL SUUUUPER BEING has to be involved?

You might be retarded.

You reply to me, yet have not told me how "Nothing" with some big balls of gas and rocks thrown in is possible.

It exists. You can see it with your own two eyes. This means that it is possible, since it happened.

Scientists believe that everything has an explanation,

No, they do not. But they seek explanations instead of saying "I dont get this, so IT MUST BE MAGIC" like you people do.

but cannot explain infinity.

1. Infinity is a math concept. Math is a branch of science.

2. Astrophysics has a bunch of good ideas about the shape and scope of the universe. You haven't head of them because you live in backwards-ass Louisiana.

What was the first thing to ever happen? Period. Not on earth, just ever?

Time itself began with the Big Bang. So there was no "before" it because you can't have befores and afters when there's no such thing as time.

So the Big Bang is the only thing that could be "first."

But, there could be other universes and our Big Bang could have been the result of the collision of two or more of them, or the collapse and expansion of one of them, or a number of other possibilities.

The honest man says "We don't know, but we might eventually." The dishonest man says "We don't know, SO IT MUST HAVE BEEN MAGIC."

You are the dishonest one here, bruh.

 

[BigMeatball]

so Adam came from dirt and Eve was a rib?

I don't know. To be honest with you, I question some things in the Bible because man wrote it. I don't question it all and I do believe some things in it, just not all. There are some contradictory things in there. I don't need the bible to believe in God. Here's the kicker, I don't even go to church. I don't believe church is my ticket to Salvation.

 

[ocelot]

I don't know. To be honest with you, I question some things in the Bible because man wrote it. I don't question it all and I do believe some things in it, just not all. There are some contradictory things in there. I don't need the bible to believe in God. Here's the kicker, I don't even go to church. I don't believe church is my ticket to Salvation.

i understand... everybody needs something to believe in...

 

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[BigMeatball]

1. Infinity is a math concept. Math is a branch of science.

2. Astrophysics has a bunch of good ideas about the shape and scope of the universe. You haven't head of them because you live in backwards-ass Louisiana.

You're really not that bright, are you? I don't want the definition to the word fool, explain how it is possible to have a mass of nothing that has no beginning or end. That's what I meant by infinity, ya know, something being infinite. Like space, or is there a wall somewhere that I am unaware of? You can talk about La. all night long. It doesn't bother me. I don't have to talk about your geographic location to make a point. BTW. I am 34 and have only lived in La. for 3 years since I was 18. I've lived and visited many cities, state and countries. Even went to college outside of the state.

 

[BigMeatball]

@ktulu. Ya know what, forget it. You're not going to change my mind and I won't change yours. No need to go back and forth. If I die and nothing happens, you were right. Bless you brother.

 

[Lorenzo de Medici]

yes, the first bit is the ignorant comments steve harvey made on cnn

but less than one minute in, Harvey begins to take his L

and since his foolish views represent what most of you people believe (but are too cowardly to argue for), you all take an L as well

Nas Lost.

[video=youtube;ziGcxB4mSeQ]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ziGcxB4mSeQ[/video]

I'm mad the video had James Cameron though. hahahaha.

 

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[MC The Rapper]

how many scientific experiments have u personally been apart of ktulu

 

[Lorenzo de Medici]

how many scientific experiments have u personally been apart of ktulu

so niggas had to have been in the lab with Newton to know gravity is real? Fuck is wrong wit' you niggas?