Steve Harvey takes an L (along with most of you people)

[Go figure...]

So you would fuck a woman who you are not married to, and who, furthermore, is married to someone else? It's no wonder you'd get down with some gay sex since you clearly don't value the sanctity of marriage.

no, no, no, scratch everything. what i said is i would fuck YOUR mother. i'd do a better job than pops ever did bruh

 

[Go figure...]

I dont like the fact that little boys get molested in the house of God by men of God . shit aint cool mayne. One of the kids I was counselling killed himself over that shit. no amount of meds could fix what those years of abuse did to him.

I can overlook everything else and just be like ok there might be a god, we dont know for sure......etc....... I mean even if God is mad busy, he will at least make sure little boys who have pledged their lives to serve him, are not getting fucked in his temple by his priests.Right?

what part of the fuckin plan is that? Innocent kids getting sodomized in church = fuck you and fuck your god. If your god is cool with that, I sure as hell dont want him close to me or anyone I care about.................and if he cant even prevent that shit from happening if he's not cool with it, then what the fuck is he doing? he can create the universe in seven days but cant prevent pedophilia in the one place .................ah fuck it.

and again, God gets the blame for the sin man commits, when CLEARLY, God is against this. u think just cuz theyre priests theyll get away with it or somethin?? circular arguments continue............

 

[Tha-Realist]

Damn.... This is still goin strong? And DoUWant2Go2Heaven joined in too? Go Figure has backup. Blind followers unite..... It's a wrap. Atheists win, but there's no way to get thru to these 2 dudes.. Their blind Faith is unbreakable no matter how much Fact you throw at them.

 

[Go figure...]

Damn.... This is still goin strong? And DoUWant2Go2Heaven joined in too? Go Figure has backup. Blind followers unite..... It's a wrap. Atheists win, but there's no way to get thru to these 2 dudes.. Their blind Faith is unbreakable no matter how much Fact you throw at them.

hey for all u know, what u know as a fact today may change at the discovery of somethin new tomorrow so........keep keepin it real!

 

[nex gin]

This thread has been an amusing read.

Anyway, God knowing ahead of time that a specific person is going to hell and creating them anyway so that they can burn forever and ever doesn't make sense to me and I still have trouble reconciling that with a God who supposedly loves the hell-bound person.

Also, I don't see how anyone can blame bad things on the devil when God created Satan and knew what his actions would be be. This seems to be a contradiction.

Just my 2 cents.

^^^^^ Yeah, that & everything else from an "All Knowing, All Seeing God". If that isn't cruel and sadistic, I don't know what is. Their argument is that God isn't responsible for the actions of man, but if he created man and he knows what man is going to do before he does it ( no free will in that...pre-determined destiny ftl ) then yes he is responsible for an action occurring that he knew before-hand would occur if he created that person. I mean...I'm just trying to use basic logic here. So if God created Hitler and those 6 million Jews knowing damn well what Hitler was gonna do.......I mean he does know everything right?......am I misunderstanding something. Is this the same God who said thou shalt not kill but then commands Abraham to kill his son....then turns around and says.."April Fools....ha ha I was just joking about that whole kill your son thing. Just testing your loyalty."? And let's not forget all of those innocent animal sacrifices/cruelty he always had somebody doing for him. Wonder if PETA supports his actions? j/k

 

[jek]

^^^^^ Yeah, that & everything else from an "All Knowing, All Seeing God". If that isn't cruel and sadistic, I don't know what is. Their argument is that God isn't responsible for the actions of man, but if he created man and he knows what man is going to do before he does it ( no free will in that...pre-determined destiny ftl ) then yes he is responsible for an action occurring that he knew before-hand would occur if he created that person. I mean...I'm just trying to use basic logic here. So if God created Hitler and those 6 million Jews knowing damn well what Hitler was gonna do.......I mean he does know everything right?......am I misunderstanding something. Is this the same God who said thou shalt not kill but then commands Abraham to kill his son....then turns around and says.."April Fools....ha ha I was just joking about that whole kill your son thing. Just testing your loyalty."? And let's not forget all of those innocent animal sacrifices/cruelty he always had somebody doing for him. Wonder if PETA supports his actions? j/k

free will means just that. You can choose to believe in him or not. he coulda made us all believe in him automatically if he wanted to on some robot shit but since he choose to make us with freewill wyeah he love us all but if you choose to not believe in him then yeah it's outta his hands. the people did that NOT GOD! as for you example im sure he does it so everybody has 2 destinys and he knows want happens with each one but he hopes you choose the one that lead you to him and not the one that lead you to go the Hitler rout. cleary Hitler choose the other rout.

 

[nex gin]

free will means just that. You can choose to believe in him or not. he coulda made us all believe in him automatically if he wanted to on some robot shit but since he choose to make us with freewill wyeah he love us all but if you choose to not believe in him then yeah it's outta his hands. the people did that NOT GOD! as for you example im sure he does it so everybody has 2 destinys and he knows want happens with each one but he hopes you choose the one that lead you to him and not the one that lead you to go the Hitler rout. cleary Hitler choose the other rout.

W/ what I am saying it doesn't matter how many destinies a man has. He could have 500 destinies, but at the end of the day wouldn't an All Knowing..All Seeing god still know exactly which destiny that man is going to pick? I mean....he's either All Seeing/All Knowing or not right? The hell bound are essentially damned from birth then right or are we keeping this all knowing being guessing right up to the point of our earthly departure? People assume that just because you don't believe in "their" god that you don't believe in the possibility of a higher being. As I said previously...there are a lot of theories but only 1 truth. Personally, I'm content admitting that I don't have an answer rather than making up stories to fill in gaps. If me not believing in the words of a ultra violent, masochistic, hole riddled, hypocritical, archaic text makes me a bad person......guess I'm fucked. But, I'll be damned if I turn a blind eye to the obvious.

 

[KTULU IS BACK]

[video=youtube;m0wR2GmFnYU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0wR2GmFnYU[/video]....................

 

[thedesolateone]

good looking out on the christopher hitchens video

 

[jek]

W/ what I am saying it doesn't matter how many destinies a man has. He could have 500 destinies, but at the end of the day wouldn't an All Knowing..All Seeing god still know exactly which destiny that man is going to pick? I mean....he's either All Seeing/All Knowing or not right? The hell bound are essentially damned from birth then right or are we keeping this all knowing being guessing right up to the point of our earthly departure? People assume that just because you don't believe in "their" god that you don't believe in the possibility of a higher being. As I said previously...there are a lot of theories but only 1 truth. Personally, I'm content admitting that I don't have an answer rather than making up stories to fill in gaps. If me not believing in the words of a ultra violent, masochistic, hole riddled, hypocritical, archaic text makes me a bad person......guess I'm fucked. But, I'll be damned if I turn a blind eye to the obvious.

it's not about turning a blind eye to nothing. it does matter what you do with your destiny because that's the free will he is giving us. Hell was not made for man to go to it was only for Satan and his Angels. We put our own self into heaven or hell by choosing to not learn from the mistakes we make and choosing to turn a blind eye to God. He might know what we gonna choose based on the choices we make because thats the cause and effect but he's still gonna want us to choose the path for us that leads to him. Nobody is born to go to hell, that's on us. small scale example (and im not sayin im God so dont take it that way) but It's like me and my son. I love him even tho he dont listen sometimes and I love him while im punishing him but he has to get punished. And he's gonna continue to not listen once in awhile in the future AND I KNOW THAT...but im still gonna tell him whats right and reluctantly punish him every time hes outta line even tho i know hes hard headed but he's gonna have to be accountable to the choices he makes and thats part of becoming a man. I can guide him but I cant do it for him. dont mean I dont want him to do right. God could get us to heaven for us but he wont do that cuz that would contradict us having free will in the first place and we gotta be accountable for our choices just like my own kid does. Why would he put people in heaven that dont wanna be there on their own anyway?

 

[Go figure...]

[video=youtube;m0wR2GmFnYU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m0wR2GmFnYU[/video]....................

so he publically announces that hes an atheist and all the atheists clap for him. not much else to that.

although i agree they shudnt have priests n shit walkin to the sick askin em if they wanna repent....it shud only happen if requested by the patient. n still i doubt u can just change ur mind at the last minute n ur completely forgiven, in most cases at least

 

[Go figure...]

it's not about turning a blind eye to nothing. it does matter what you do with your destiny because that's the free will he is giving us. Hell was not made for man to go to it was only for Satan and his Angels. We put our own self into heaven or hell by choosing to not learn from the mistakes we make and choosing to turn a blind eye to God. He might know what we gonna choose based on the choices we make because thats the cause and effect but he's still gonna want us to choose the path for us that leads to him. Nobody is born to go to hell, that's on us. small scale example (and im not sayin im God so dont take it that way) but It's like me and my son. I love him even tho he dont listen sometimes and I love him while im punishing him but he has to get punished. And he's gonna continue to not listen once in awhile in the future AND I KNOW THAT...but im still gonna tell him whats right and reluctantly punish him every time hes outta line even tho i know hes hard headed but he's gonna have to be accountable to the choices he makes and thats part of becoming a man. I can guide him but I cant do it for him. dont mean I dont want him to do right. God could get us to heaven for us but he wont do that cuz that would contradict us having free will in the first place and we gotta be accountable for our choices just like my own kid does. Why would he put people in heaven that dont wanna be there on their own anyway?

cosign. for sum reason most these ppl dont understand that concept, or they are voluntarily blind to it because of course they dont believe in it and therefore disregard every situation as being even half-logical. but its one thing to not believe, thats fine, but to act like it dont make sense when clearly it does?.....its not rocket science.

its the same thing with christians and science. as a christian u shouldnt be threatened by science and its new discoveries. scientists are only discovering what God has already created. theres nothin wrong with learning as a human being what God has offered us. nothin of the bible has been disproved by science. atheists even say the bible is too vague to determine 'scientific facts' that the bible has to offer.

 

[KTULU IS BACK]

nothin of the bible has been disproved by science.

the entire genesis story, the origin of mankind, the flood, talking snakes, talking donkeys, the place of the earth in the universe, people coming back to life after dying....

lots of shit in the bible has been disproven, dummy.

 

[KTULU IS BACK]

He might know what we gonna choose based on the choices we make because thats the cause and effect but he's still gonna want us to choose the path for us that leads to him.

So now God "might" be all-knowing?

lmao

If God knows everything, he knows exactly what you're going to do with your life before you're even born. He knows you're already going to Hell, which he created. It's a setup.

Fortunately, it's not true. There is no Hell. Stop being scared.

small scale example (and im not sayin im God so dont take it that way) but It's like me and my son. I love him even tho he dont listen sometimes and I love him while im punishing him but he has to get punished.

This would make sense if you were an ALL-KNOWING parent, but you're not. You don't know what your kid is going to do, but God obviously does.

And why do you religious people want to have an eternal parent anyway? Didn't you grow up? Aren't you adults?

 

[shootemwon]

sonned into oblivion

 

[Go figure...]

^^^^
LOL@the vid, this one always comes up along wit sum bill maher religulous clips. doubt it'll change a believer's mind tho.

 

[Go figure...]

the entire genesis story, the origin of mankind, the flood, talking snakes, talking donkeys, the place of the earth in the universe, people coming back to life after dying....

lots of shit in the bible has been disproven, dummy.

im not sayin da bible n science gonna agree on all aspects, sum of da shit is arguable anyway based on interpretation n context of the bible passage

 

[Go figure...]

So now God "might" be all-knowing?

lmao

If God knows everything, he knows exactly what you're going to do with your life before you're even born. He knows you're already going to Hell, which he created. It's a setup.

Fortunately, it's not true. There is no Hell. Stop being scared.

This would make sense if you were an ALL-KNOWING parent, but you're not. You don't know what your kid is going to do, but God obviously does.

And why do you religious people want to have an eternal parent anyway? Didn't you grow up? Aren't you adults?

If God knew satan would rebel and adam and eve would sin why did he create them?

http://www.gotquestions.org/if-God-knew.html

God’s purpose was to create a world in which His glory could be manifest in all its fullness. The glory of God is the overarching goal of creation. In fact, it is the overarching goal of everything He does. The universe was created to display God’s glory (Psalm 19:1), and the wrath of God is revealed against those who fail to glorify God (Romans 1:23). Our sin causes us to fall short of God’s glory (Romans 3:23), and in the new heaven and new earth, the glory of God is what will provide light (Revelation 21:23). The glory of God is manifest when His attributes are on perfect display, and the story of redemption is part of that.

The classic objection to this position is that God’s foreknowledge and foreordination of the fall damages man’s freedom. In other words, if God created mankind with full knowledge of the impending fall into sin, how can man be responsible for his sin? The best answer to this question can be found in the Westminster Confession of Faith chapter III:

“God, from all eternity, did, by the most wise and holy counsel of his own will, freely, and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass; yet so, as thereby neither is God the author of sin, nor is violence offered to the will of the creatures; nor is the liberty or contingency of second causes taken away, but rather established” (WFC, III.1)

What this is saying is that God ordains future events in such a way that our freedom and the working of secondary causes (e.g., laws of nature) are preserved. Theologians call this “concurrence.” God’s sovereign will flows concurrently with our free choices in such a way that our free choices always result in the carrying out of God’s will (by “free choices” we mean that our choices are not coerced by outside influences).

 

[The Douce]

Lol nigga said you belee in magic and sorcery. -Busayo

 

[The Douce]

do you belive in unicorns? lol